The Lera Solar System - Part Two

[Michael Kilderry]

Hello Again,

I have now made more worlds for Part Two of the Lera Solar System. If everything goes to plan, The Lera Solar System will be a five-part solar system with the addition of three upcoming addons.

I would like to thank all that were interested in the Lera Solar System - Part One and that a screenshot of the Solar System should be coming soon for Part Two. For the volunteers of the Celestia Motherlode site, I have put an image to use as a thumbnail in the Lera2.zip file called Lera2.png. It is a picture including all the worlds of Part Two which I'll be sure to use in this forum with descriptions of the worlds coming with it.

I have also set up a poll in which you can vote for your favourite Part Two world, I haven't decided on mine yet, but I'll be sure to vote!

The Lera Solar System - Part Two can be found as Lera2.zip here:

http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/creators/kilderry

If it's not there than it hasn't arrived yet.

Michael Kilderry

[Michael Kilderry]

I am here again to post this reply to tell you that I've decided to vote for Sykria, a world whose texture couldn't be created without those made by RHAS' Celestia Planet Texture Pack (thanks RHAS).

I also want to put something else to peoples attention. Two people have voted before this solar system has even made it to the Celestia Motherlode Site! Unless you two are people who help put the new addons in the creators directory so you get the first look at those addons, I wouldn't recommend voting for worlds you haven't even seen yet.

Michael Kilderry

[Michael Kilderry]

The Lera Solar System - Part Two has now made it to the creators directory of the Celestia Motherlode. Use the link on the first post and choose Lera2.zip to download it.

Michael Kilderry

[t00fri]

Michael,

please tell me: what is the Lera solar system?


Thanks

Bye Fridger

[Evil Dr Ganymede]

Michael,
please tell me: what is the Lera solar system?

(a) there's a link to the files in the top post, plus planet names in the poll.
(b) There's a thread that is still on the front page of this board describing part one.

[t00fri]

Michael,
please tell me: what is the Lera solar system?

(a) there's a link to the files in the top post, plus planet names in the poll.
(b) There's a thread that is still on the front page of this board describing part one.

Of course, I had checked those, which led me to ask my question . I hope it was not impolite to ask?

Bye Fridger

[Evil Dr Ganymede]

Well, it's quite clearly a fictional solar system add-on isn't it. What else would you want to know about it?!

[Michael Kilderry]

t00fri, the Lera Solar System is a five-part addon project (two parts have been done so far). It exists in a half-realm, it is not quite part of our universe, but it does share some of it's physics, leading to the planets being not quite realistic. The solar system consists of a venus like planet (Kitherea), an earthlike planet (Jovalera), strange comets (The Vomit and I Like Eggs Comets) and asteroids (Quoffle and Minsaka), a double giant system (Akiten and Jumwiy) and other worlds like you've never seen before (Pramarr and the rest). For any further information just download the addons! , thanks for asking, I didn't find it impolite.

Michael Kilderry

[t00fri]

Well, it's quite clearly a fictional solar system add-on isn't it. What else would you want to know about it?!

Evil Dr. Ganymede,

well, I could give some reasons...

--it may well be a lot of fun intellectually, to model a system starting from some more or less unusual "initial values" for its thermodynamics, nuclear physics and atmospheric parameters. Once these are given, one may seriously contemplate how the evolution of such systems would have taken place. A graphical realization of a "time slice" of this evolution process might be both challenging, interesting and very surprising.

I guess these aspects are among those that make planetary scientists like yourself generally interested in such ventures?

After studying Michael's available informations, I could not find any reference to respective strategies he possibly has applied. So I asked.


--Another possible attitude towards generating new solar systems may come essentially from artistic motivation. Again it is interesting to find out what the various motivations of our "solar system creators" were.

A demonstration of my own deep interest in this kind of "unscientific" approach, you can find in my own new creation in the "Purgatory": The new hyperdense system X-Rat, comprising 5 brillant suns with one black hole in its center. Unfortunately my system recently underwent a gravitational collapse due to its high density. So it seems I will have to start all over again.

I hope this answers you question

Bye Fridger

[Evil Dr Ganymede]

--it may well be a lot of fun intellectually, to model a system starting from some more or less unusual "initial values" for its thermodynamics, nuclear physics and atmospheric parameters. Once these are given, one may seriously contemplate how the evolution of such systems would have taken place. A graphical realization of a "time slice" of this evolution process might be both challenging, interesting and very surprising.

I guess these aspects are among those that make planetary scientists like yourself generally interested in such ventures?

I do this all the time. Admittedly, I world-build for a roleplaying game (Traveller), but I've been building systems on paper for the past 15 years at least, based on whatever is known about real planetary science! In fact I'm currently working on a realistic worldbuilding system for the game that brings all that work together (the problem with Traveller's default worldgen system is that it often creates nonsensical worlds - like superdense Pluto-sized objects in the habitable zone that can retain an earthlike atmosphere).

[Michael Kilderry]

Evil Dr Ganymede and t00fri, have you both downloaded and looked at the Lera Solar System, Part Two? It may not be realistic, but what did you think?

Michael Kilderry

[Evil Dr Ganymede]

Well, I'm not too keen on Lera anyway because it's not realistic. Beyond that frame of reference you may as well make a planet out of meringue.

That said, the format of the files is somewhat awkward. I think you'd be better off releasing a single bigger version of the system each time rather than splitting it into parts, because currently to view Part 2 I have to (a) have Part 1 already and (b) have to manually put all the files from part 2 into the folder of part 1.

Instead I think it'd be much easier if you replaced part 1 with the newer combined, larger file and have everything in one place and save the user a lot of hassle at his end.

I can't seem to get it to work when I do that anyway - it just doesn't find the star. You should probably give it a fictional HIP number to make it easier to locate.

[t00fri]

Evil Dr Ganymede and t00fri, have you both downloaded and looked at the Lera Solar System, Part Two? It may not be realistic, but what did you think?

Michael Kilderry

Michael,

let me ask you again, under what premises you want me to look at your Lera system.

It's obviously not aimed at any realism, so my opinion as a theoretical physicist is presumably not desired.

I also have fairly solid ties to art in general and painting/graphical art in particular. When I was 16 -- 19, I painted lots of space pictures myself. Also, I had weekly lessons with a professional painter for 8 years during my adolescence.

Nowadays, I do not have enough spare time for things like this. If I have some leisure, I preferably generate high quality, realistic textures or (with some beer next to my computer ), new "solar systems" like X-Rat in the Purgatory I am sure you had a look at it already....

So should I have a look at your system from the aesthetical/artistic point of view?

Bye Fridger

[bh]

Aah beer...Fridger...what beer is next to your computer?

Regards...bh.

[t00fri]

Aah beer...Fridger...what beer is next to your computer?

Regards...bh.

It's called ASTRA, brewed in Hamburg close to famous St. Pauli .

I "discovered" it many years ago, when I observed that the removal men from Hamburg who delivered our furniture to Munich/Bavaria (!) had brought along bottles of ASTRA beer to that world renowned "beer paradise" in Bavaria!!

But since I just try to implement the bolometric corrections and the temperature <--> mass correlation into my Perl script for the binaries of the 6th catalog of binary orbits I better shouldn't be drinking beer at all...

Bye Fridger

[bh]

I would very much like to try this ASTRA...If you ever make it to Blighty...check out Fullers ESB...it's always next to my computer...that's why my upgrades go so wrong! Hehe. Cheers!

Regards...bh.

[t00fri]

I would very much like to try this ASTRA...If you ever make it to Blighty...check out Fullers ESB...it's always next to my computer...that's why my upgrades go so wrong! Hehe. Cheers!

Regards...bh.

Hmm. With Fullers there is a bell ringing. After all, we spent a year in Cambridge and Oxford (half a year each) and I have visited Oxford many many times thereafter.

Bye Fridger

[Michael Kilderry]

Well, I'm not too keen on Lera anyway because it's not realistic. Beyond that frame of reference you may as well make a planet out of meringue.

That said, the format of the files is somewhat awkward. I think you'd be better off releasing a single bigger version of the system each time rather than splitting it into parts, because currently to view Part 2 I have to (a) have Part 1 already and (b) have to manually put all the files from part 2 into the folder of part 1.

Instead I think it'd be much easier if you replaced part 1 with the newer combined, larger file and have everything in one place and save the user a lot of hassle at his end.

I can't seem to get it to work when I do that anyway - it just doesn't find the star. You should probably give it a fictional HIP number to make it easier to locate.

Firstly, I don't think it matters whether a planet is realistic or not, all that matters is that it looks nice. I can't put all of the files together because I don't have FTP which means I can't put all of the solar system on the Motherlode all at once, I have to portion it out in tiny 2MB or under portions.

And no, you don't have to put Part 2 into Part One you can just put them into seperate folders in Celestia's extras folder and they'll work just fine. You do not need the first part of Lera for the second one to work. The second is just another group of planets for the Lera System and all of the necessary files to get them to work are there.

With the location of the star, make sure you have put the new starnames.dat included with both zip files inside Celestia's Data folder, and then goto Goto Object and type in "The Lera Star" then go to the Solar System browser to find the planets. Didn't I explain this in the readme?

Michael Kilderry

[Michael Kilderry]

Well, I'm not too keen on Lera anyway because it's not realistic. Beyond that frame of reference you may as well make a planet out of meringue.

Meringue - That's a brilliant idea! In the Lera Solar System Part Three expect one of the worlds to be made out of it. That would be one nice tasting moon!

Michael Kilderry

[Michael Kilderry]

Evil Dr Ganymede and t00fri, have you both downloaded and looked at the Lera Solar System, Part Two? It may not be realistic, but what did you think?

Michael Kilderry

Michael,

let me ask you again, under what premises you want me to look at your Lera system.

It's obviously not aimed at any realism, so my opinion as a theoretical physicist is presumably not desired.

I also have fairly solid ties to art in general and painting/graphical art in particular. When I was 16 -- 19, I painted lots of space pictures myself. Also, I had weekly lessons with a professional painter for 8 years during my adolescence.

Nowadays, I do not have enough spare time for things like this. If I have some leisure, I preferably generate high quality, realistic textures or (with some beer next to my computer ), new "solar systems" like X-Rat in the Purgatory I am sure you had a look at it already....

So should I have a look at your system from the aesthetical/artistic point of view?

Bye Fridger

I would have answered to this post earlier, only I missed it as I was looking through all the others. Yes, I have seen the X-Rat system, I can see way more than five stars in the picture.

I think you should look at my solar system from an artistic point of view. The main reason why a lot of the planets look completely out of this universe is because I wanted to create worlds that looked different. Do you have a favourite Lera Solar System world?

Michael Kilderry