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General discussion about Celestia that doesn't fit into other forums.
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Post #21by jamarsa » 05.05.2003, 22:01

toofri wrote:

Well if the spanish 'Doctorate' finishes with a PhD then the Diplome is not ~ a Doctorate. Usually, starting from a German Diplome, it will take another 3 years to get the PhD. I know quite a few highly qualified spanish PhD guys who have definitely spent more than the time for a German Diplome thesis on their PhD work;-)




This is going a lot offtopic...

I expressed myself badly, and you are very right. My sister has a Computers PhD, and true, it took almost 3 years to get it. I'm her somewhat stupid younger brother, so I'm a Computers Licenciate, that's what you get after finishing the six years career. I think there isn't an equivalent or the German Diplome here, although the Grade Licenciate could serve as an approximation (after presenting a 'Career Final Work').
As you were expressing the Dimplome as 'high level', I thought you were meaning 'thesis and PhD'.


About your meeting with Spanish PhD's I'm not wondering how, and I bet most of them live and work on Germany too, because our government doesn't support 'science' in the standard sense; the call 'high technology' to the selling of mobile phones by private companies and the purchase of computers to play Internet at home (of course not in schools, this would imply the waste of public funds), and 'good bussiness' to the development of entertainment TV shows as 'Big Brother'. If you want to work in Science (capitalized) there is little room here, unless you fund yourself.


Very offtopic again, but this conversation awakened a lot of worry about the sad state of things here...

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Post #22by t00fri » 05.05.2003, 22:15

jamarsa wrote:toofri wrote:

Well if the spanish 'Doctorate' finishes with a PhD then the Diplome is not ~ a Doctorate. Usually, starting from a German Diplome, it will take another 3 years to get the PhD. I know quite a few highly qualified spanish PhD guys who have definitely spent more than the time for a German Diplome thesis on their PhD work;-)



This is going a lot offtopic...

I expressed myself badly, and you are very right. My sister has a Computers PhD, and true, it took almost 3 years to get it. I'm her somewhat stupid younger brother, so I'm a Computers Licenciate, that's what you get after finishing the six years career. I think there isn't a equivalent or the German Diplome here, although the Grade Licenciate could serve as an approximation (after presenting a 'Career Final Work').

About your meeting with Spanish PhD's I'm not wondering how, and I bet most of them live and work on Germany too, because our government doesn't support 'science' in the standard sense; the call 'high technology' to the selling of mobile phones by private companies and the purchase of computers to play Internet at home (of course not in schools, this would imply the spending of public funds). If you want to work in Science (capitalized) there is little room here, unless you fund yourself.


Very offtopic again, but this conversation awakened a lot of worry about the sad state of things here...


Well I can only judge about my direct professional environment that includes my first hand knowledge about /first rate/ scientific institutions in various places in Spain: Madrid, Valencia and Barcelona, notably, in my subject. The young generation of scientists that are produced in these places is perfectly able to compete worldwide and excellent international Postdocs are regularly spending 2 years at the Autonoma in Madrid for example.

While I am aware that certain things are not exactly 'perfect', I have always been full of respect about the high level of training and research that has emerged out of Spain during the last 20 years, say.

Why not going off-topic once in a while;-)

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Post #23by jamarsa » 05.05.2003, 22:48

T00fri wrote:
The young generation of scientists that are produced in these places is perfectly able to compete worldwide and excellent international Postdocs are regularly spending 2 years at the Autonoma in Madrid for example.



Oh, yes! I think there is very clever and competent people here, (my sister was teaching at the Politecnica of Madrid and cooperating in research projects there, some military :roll: ), but I pictured the general frame... Spain is almost the European country investing less percentage on research, and our productivity rate is in the level of developing countries. Nothing to improve on this, as 'Spain goes well', as our PM Aznar says. They are seeking to implant a private 'bussiness model' in our universities, as a new law is pointing to. The general goal is *not* to spend government funds in 'nonprofit' activities, such as Science (although it's demonstrated a lot of times it's the best long-term monetary rewarded investment always).

Now I remember... Some of my sister's work implied 3D terrain representation. Perhaps I should get a talk with her and convince to have a new 'hobby' hehehe... :twisted:

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Post #24by Redfish » 08.05.2003, 23:22

Going back to the topic of integrating terrain rendering in celestia I'm convinced that eventually we'll have a feature like that in the program, cuz look at what stage the program is currently at. Something as difficult and beautiful as nebulae are starting to show up. I know it's just a matter of time for this feature to be available in celestia.

BTW: the download doesn't work anymore for me...

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Post #25by marc » 11.05.2003, 03:12

Ive found a site with some screenshots, but the download doesnt work here either.

http://www.vterrain.org/Packages/IUE/index.html

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Post #26by billybob884 » 11.05.2003, 03:30

the downloads dont work because he is currently in hte progress of moving everything to another web server, so he can actually have a website.
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