Celestia galaxy alignment

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Celestia galaxy alignment

Post #1by Seb » 16.12.2009, 20:22

I'm just wondering, in Celestia, is our solar system correctly aligned with our galaxy? I'm not saying it wrong, just wondered if that is how it is.

I'm asking because of this silly 2012 thing, and that it is supposed to be about our alignment within the galaxy. Using Celestia, I can see that earth is at the edges of our orbit around the beginning of March and around the end of September.

So, if we were moving through the galactic plane, and it was going to cause environmental effects then wouldn’t we first start to see them around March or September?

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Re: Celestia galaxy alignment

Post #2by selden » 17.12.2009, 12:44

Seb wrote:I'm just wondering, in Celestia, is our solar system correctly aligned with our galaxy? I'm not saying it wrong, just wondered if that is how it is.
Yes, it is. Look in /data/galaxies.dsc to see a description of Celestia's definition of its Milky Way DSC object and of other galaxies.

I'm asking because of this silly 2012 thing, and that it is supposed to be about our alignment within the galaxy. Using Celestia, I can see that earth is at the edges of our orbit around the beginning of March and around the end of September.

So, if we were moving through the galactic plane, and it was going to cause environmental effects then wouldn’t we first start to see them around March or September?

As you say, the 2012 thing is silly. The pseudo-astronomical descriptions used by its promulgators are, shall we say, less than accurate. They use just enough jargon to mislead people who don't take the time to investigate what is actually known about the galaxy and the solar system's astronomical environment.

It has been debunked many times on the BAUT forum, which is a better place to discuss it than here. http://www.bautforum.com/
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Re: Celestia galaxy alignment

Post #3by t00fri » 17.12.2009, 19:25

Selden,

that 2012 nonsense REALLY doesn't belong here!

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Re: Celestia galaxy alignment

Post #4by Cham » 17.12.2009, 19:58

t00fri wrote:Selden,

that 2012 nonsense REALLY doesn't belong here!

I totally agree !
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Re: Celestia galaxy alignment

Post #5by Reiko » 18.12.2009, 03:45

You all wrong. Passing through galactic planes will cause mass volcano explosions and global doom. We see it in that recent movie after all. :P
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Re: Celestia galaxy alignment

Post #6by Chuft-Captain » 18.12.2009, 11:31

Shhhhh...! ... Don't anyone mention Andromeda! 8)

Damn it, now I've done it!! :oops:
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Re: Celestia galaxy alignment

Post #7by ETSubmariner » 07.01.2010, 20:15

Seb wrote:I'm just wondering, in Celestia, is our solar system correctly aligned with our galaxy? I'm not saying it wrong, just wondered if that is how it is.

I'm asking because of this silly 2012 thing, and that it is supposed to be about our alignment within the galaxy. Using Celestia, I can see that earth is at the edges of our orbit around the beginning of March and around the end of September.

So, if we were moving through the galactic plane, and it was going to cause environmental effects then wouldn’t we first start to see them around March or September?

The galactic "center" is like 12 degrees of our viewing plane, and we've been in the general plane since 1998 or something; a 36 year period till it ends. At no point in 2012 do we see all the planets literally lining up (conjunction), and only some of them line up in relation to the plane as a perspective. I've been using Celestia to show people that there's not much to it on December 21, 2012. I've even had to show them that the Mayan Long-count calendar only ends on 12/21/2012 because of a few corrective correlation schemes to translate what the Mayans meant compared to what our current calendar system means. I might add that there are over 50 correlation schemes for the Mayan calendar, and very rarely do these align/conjunct with each other. In one scheme, the Long-count ended in 1546!

Now if someone started a topic on the Big Bang/expanding universe model versus the Plasma Cosmos model, I'd be all on it! The 2012 thing, well, if it were true, the doom would be so bad there's nothing anyone could do about it.


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