No more Shrox models until Celestia works on my machine...

shrox · Post #1by **shrox** » 31.05.2002, 13:26

I have not been able to use Celestia since 3 releases ago, so I can't see my new models in it! I have posted several times about this, here is another.

I am using a Toshiba Satellite laptop. Here is the video card info:

S3 Chip Identify Utility Version 1.00.07

Related CR register information:
CR2D = 0x8C CR2E = 0x12 CR2F = 0x11 CR30 = 0xE1 CR36 = 0x53 CR5E = 0x00
CR68 = 0xCA CR6F = 0x00 CR72 = 0x00 CR73 = 0x3F CR92 = 0x00 CRB0 = 0x20

S3 Video Chip: Savage/IX w/MV (294/8/9)
Display Memory Size: 8M
Display Memory Type: SGRAM/SDRAM

Please help, or no soup for you!

Guest · Post #2by **Guest** » 01.06.2002, 17:32

Will someone PLEASE reply to this so we can have more great models ?

Post #3by **chris** » 01.06.2002, 22:05

I'm assuming that the problem is the graphics card . . . I'll if I can track down an old S3 Savage card and replicate the problem. Celestia needs more Shrox models!

--Chris

Post #4by **chris** » 01.06.2002, 22:20

Oops . . . the Savage IX is a mobile only part . . . It looks like I'll have to track down a laptop or just hope that the Savage IX is similar enough to a Savage 4 (which you can get for just $20 now) that I can use it for debugging. Does anyone here run Celestia on a computer with either an S3 Savage4 or Savage IX?

--Chris

Axel · Post #5by **Axel** » 02.06.2002, 12:44

Hi Chris, hi Shrox,

I have an Asus 8400k notebook with a Savage MX. I can only run OpenGL apps accelerated under WinMe, no propper GL driver for Windows 2000 and Linux

It's running pretty slow, so I guess either the textures are to large for it or it's strangely using software mode.

I'll check and come back.

Axel

Mikeydude750 · Post #6by **Mikeydude750** » 02.06.2002, 17:14

shrox wrote:I have not been able to use Celestia since 3 releases ago, so I can't see my new models in it! I have posted several times about this, here is another.

I am using a Toshiba Satellite laptop. Here is the video card info:

S3 Chip Identify Utility Version 1.00.07

Related CR register information:
CR2D = 0x8C CR2E = 0x12 CR2F = 0x11 CR30 = 0xE1 CR36 = 0x53 CR5E = 0x00
CR68 = 0xCA CR6F = 0x00 CR72 = 0x00 CR73 = 0x3F CR92 = 0x00 CRB0 = 0x20

S3 Video Chip: Savage/IX w/MV (294/8/9)
Display Memory Size: 8M
Display Memory Type: SGRAM/SDRAM

Please help, or no soup for you!

Couldn't you just send the models to someone else, and have them take a screenshot of it in Celestia?

Guest · Post #7by **Guest** » 02.06.2002, 17:55

Couldn't you just send the models to someone else, and have them take a screenshot of it in Celestia?

That sounds to me like an extremely cruel form of punishment !

Post #8by **chris** » 03.06.2002, 18:01

Axel wrote:Hi Chris, hi Shrox,

I have an Asus 8400k notebook with a Savage MX. I can only run OpenGL apps accelerated under WinMe, no propper GL driver for Windows 2000 and Linux

It's running pretty slow, so I guess either the textures are to large for it or it's strangely using software mode.

I'll check and come back.

Check out the OpenGL Info option in the help menu . . .

Also, have you tried out the low res textures?

--Chris

Axel · Post #9by **Axel** » 03.06.2002, 22:21

Hi Chris,

it says:

Vendor S3 Inc.
Renderer Savage MX
Version: 1.1 2.10.40

Supported Extensions:
...
...

So I guess it runs accelerated, albeit at 5fps on a 850Mhz P3

I had an Earth.jpg of 2048x1024x24 which I now shrank to 1024x512x24 to no change. No atmosphere nor any special shaders. Just a crammy OpenGL driver under W2k.

Take care,
Axel

shrox · Post #10by **shrox** » 04.06.2002, 05:41

All these sweet models, already to go, such a waste. The model set based on the 1950's Disney featurette "Mars and Beyond" is especially cool...

Axel · Post #11by **Axel** » 08.06.2002, 10:40

Hi Shrox,

if you simply want to see your models in Celestia, you ought to get it run @ 1fps in software mode. It's unsusable except to view a model maybe

Then I'd really suggest to try it with Win9x and the last available drivers. I heard of a few guys doing their own Savage drivers. Maybe that's a way. Don't know the url right now, though.

Then it might be usefull for Chris to get info on when exactly and which new Celestia version didn't work anymore for you. So he might identify the problem feature.

-> Chris, as suggested before. A way to disable single features outside of Celestia could help maybe. Don't know 'bout the needed effort, though

And don't be annoyed by me not so keen on having Disney stuff in my solar system

Wht else is / was in the pipe?

CU and good luck,
Axel

shrox · Post #12by **shrox** » 08.06.2002, 15:42

Celestia won't even start. I just get various .dll errors. I will install and run it again to copy the error message

Axel · Post #13by **Axel** » 08.06.2002, 17:34

Hi Shrox,

first try to find the very last official S3 Savage driver. That may or may not be at S3's site. Then try to find these S3 freaks, they have done a few versions on their own I guess. Sorry still no url.

Try to peak inside the installation package and identify which dlls are installed by them. The rename/remove them on your system. There still ought to be an OpenGL.dll in your system32, though.

This will run Celestia in SW mode, once it detects another vendor hardware accelerated dll, it'll try to forward calls to the OpenGL api and provoke errors.

If it runs in SW, fine. If not think about reinstall Win and do an initial backup. Then install driver one and test with several versions of Celestia, then the next driver and so on.

Good luck,
Axel

Axel · Post #14by **Axel** » 06.02.2003, 08:34

Axel wrote:Hi Chris,

it says:

Vendor S3 Inc.
Renderer Savage MX
Version: 1.1 2.10.40

Supported Extensions:
...
...

So I guess it runs accelerated, albeit at 5fps on a 850Mhz P3

I had an Earth.jpg of 2048x1024x24 which I now shrank to 1024x512x24 to no change. No atmosphere nor any special shaders. Just a crammy OpenGL driver under W2k.

Take care,
Axel

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