Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #21by Chuft-Captain » 17.12.2008, 15:20

Hi again Andrea,

I have just created an XYZ version of my original addon for you.
Just unzip to your StationV folder.
Space_Station_V_OrionDocking.zip


Here also is a celURL located at the beginning of the journey for you to use after you have installed the addon.

... and: the arrival of the spaceship as seen from Station V (as in the movie)
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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #22by ANDREA » 17.12.2008, 16:50

Chuft-Captain wrote:Hi again Andrea, I have just created an XYZ version of my original addon for you.
Just unzip to your StationV folder.
Space_Station_V_OrionDocking.zip
........
Thanks a lot, Chuff, very appreciated.
I'm writing a script named "Celestia and Sci-Fi" (what a fantasy, isn't it?) and this will be very nice in the "2001: a Space Odissey" section.
Thank you once again. :wink:
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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #23by ANDREA » 29.12.2008, 17:05

Hello Chuff, thanks again for yor ssc file, I used it in Celestia 151 and it worked flawlessly, as you can see in the first image. :D
But later on I tried it with Celestia 141 (I use sound in my shows, with Vincent's 141_patch3, that works very well), with a bad surprise: it works wrongly in 141.
As you can see in the second image, Orion docks in the reverse way (I mean first the back, then the front), and moreover (obviously), its rotation is inverse to the Space Station V's. :?
My question: is there any possibility to obtain the same results of 151 using 141?
If yes, please. what do I have to modify in the ssc file I use?
Here the ssc:

"Space Station V" "Sol/Earth"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Mesh "station-v-hr.cmod"
Radius 0.15
Beginning "2001 01 01 12:00:00"
EllipticalOrbit
{
Period 0.063
SemiMajorAxis 6700
}
Obliquity 90
RotationPeriod -0.017
Albedo 0.02
}

"OrionDocking" "Sol/Earth/Space Station V"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Beginning "2001 01 01 12:00:00"
Mesh "Orion.3ds"
Radius 0.010
OrbitFrame { BodyFixed { Center "Sol/Earth/Space Station V" }}
SampledOrbit "OrionDocking.xyz"
BodyFrame { BodyFixed { Center "Sol/Earth/Space Station V" }}
FixedRotation
{
Inclination 180
AscendingNode 0
MeridianAngle 0
}
Albedo 0.01
}


Thanks a lot for your help.
Bye

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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #24by Chuft-Captain » 29.12.2008, 20:02

ANDREA wrote:But later on I tried it with Celestia 141 (I use sound in my shows, with Vincent's 141_patch3, that works very well), with a bad surprise: it works wrongly in 141.
That's not really a surprise Andrea :wink: You see, in 1.5.x it relies on the Orbitframe, Bodyframe code to orient itself wrt. the space station. This of course does not exist in 1.4.1, so is ignored.
To achieve a similar result in 1.4.1 you can just add the following code:

...
Obliquity 180
RotationPeriod 0.017

...
Albedo 0.01


Good luck,
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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #25by ANDREA » 29.12.2008, 22:58

Chuft-Captain wrote:
ANDREA wrote:But later on I tried it with Celestia 141 (I use sound in my shows, with Vincent's 141_patch3, that works very well), with a bad surprise: it works wrongly in 141.

That's not really a surprise Andrea :wink: You see, in 1.5.x it relies on the Orbitframe, Bodyframe code to orient itself wrt. the space station. This of course does not exist in 1.4.1, so is ignored.
To achieve a similar result in 1.4.1 you can just add the following code:
...
Obliquity 180
RotationPeriod 0.017

...
Albedo 0.01
Good luck, CC
Whoopee, Chuff, thanks a lot, it worked very well! :D
I was acquainted of the differences between Celestia 141 and 151 ssc file settings, so I tried to add the RotationPeriod 0.017, but I missed the Obliquity 180 line, my fault, because I've not yet studied all the new stuff in ssc files, waiting for the official version of 1.6, when all of them will be thoroughly defined. :oops:
Up to then... thanks a lot once again for your help and patience, very appreciated.
Bye

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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #26by Chuft-Captain » 31.12.2008, 13:34

siete benvenuto
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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #27by ANDREA » 31.12.2008, 13:53

Chuft-Captain wrote:siete benvenuto
This is the way to welcome a serious, old, previously unknown man. :lol:
More familiarly we say "Sei il benvenuto".
Thank you Chuff, have a wondelful 2009! :wink:
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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #28by Chuft-Captain » 31.12.2008, 14:24

ANDREA wrote:
Chuft-Captain wrote:siete benvenuto
This is the way to welcome a serious, old, previously unknown man. :lol:
More familiarly we say "Sei il benvenuto".
Thank you Chuff, have a wondelful 2009! :wink:
Bye

Andrea :D
Haha, whoops, sorry about that Andrea.
I don't know if "serious", and "old" describes you, but I'm sure that "previously unknown" does not. :lol:
As for "man", I'm aware that certain "english" speakers on this forum have mistaken you as a woman in the past (due to "Andrea" with a slightly different pronunciation being a female name in English)... at least I got the man bit right. :)

Anyway, that'll teach me for using Babelfish.
It's a long time since I was in Italy, and my memory of Italian is pretty much summed up by:
"un cafe por favor" and "Prego". :lol: (and that's probably wrong also :oops: )
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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #29by Chuft-Captain » 31.12.2008, 14:36

Babelfish is rather inconsistent:

"You are welcome" --> "Siete benvenuto"
"Sei il benvenuto" --> "You are the welcome" --> "Siete il benvenuto"

Go figure!!
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Re: Making Orion Dock at Space Station V

Post #30by ANDREA » 31.12.2008, 17:44

Well, surely I'm a man, alas old, being 64, but not so serious, I mean I still love jocking, smiling and taking with truly little seriousness the not-so-important things. :lol:
Regarding Babelfish...who knows it avoids it, IMO, because it makes more damages than useful things in human relations. :evil:
And for your Italian language, you remember two most important sentences. :wink:
Happy New Year to all the good willing Celestia people!
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