I'll be BACK - again!

[Fenerit]

Flying windows, translucent effects, the machine's control over the man etc, are things for childrens (childrens says; Ohh! Wow! Please daddy, buy me that!). How many human time one can savings in doing a simple operation of program's launch > menu > find with all these feature disabled? And what that human time is for the CPU time? What can import to me of a help's screen mate that does tell me about of my action? Only a waste of RAM. To have a powerful computer for then slowing it with craps like these which doesn't serves to what is suppose the computer may do, it's just for childrens, in my humble opinion. Perso, in my Xp configuration, I don't use even the styles; just the old win 95 setting.

[BobHegwood]

Bob, I feel for ya. Were it me, I'd be drop-kicking it through their front window right about now.

Believe me, I came VERY close to doing just that. I'm not a
very patient guy anyway, so it was very difficult for me to maintain
a calm demeanor when I talked to the HP support people.

I also had to wait for a set of recovery disks to be shipped to me so
that I could reinstall the original software which was pre-installed at
the factory. Why this software (2 CD's) couldn't have been packed in
with the original PC is beyond me... Anyway, I waited patiently for
this stuff, and then set it up again. (And again, and again, and
again.)

The good news is that I now know what I'm doing here, AND I no
longer have any of the permission problems I had originally. I
have actually learned how to control this aspect of the machine,
and it now works like I think it should.

So, just as soon as I get Celestia set up - AGAIN - I'll be ready to
go here.

EDIT: To Fenerit, I actually REMOVED approximately 6 GB of pure
advertising and CRAP from this thing this time. ISP's that I didn't
ever wish to use, links to music and video that I'll never wish to
purchase, etc. This is what burns me the most about this Vista
software. Everything you touch tries to sell you something.
Just pure BS.

Thanks all for your help and support.

Take care, Brain-Dead

[Fenerit]

Bob, I feel for ya. Were it me, I'd be drop-kicking it through their front window right about now.

Believe me, I came VERY close to doing just that. I'm not a
very patient guy anyway, so it was very difficult for me to maintain
a calm demeanor when I talked to the HP support people.

I also had to wait for a set of recovery disks to be shipped to me so
that I could reinstall the original software which was pre-installed at
the factory. Why this software (2 CD's) couldn't have been packed in
with the original PC is beyond me... Anyway, I waited patiently for
this stuff, and then set it up again. (And again, and again, and
again.)

The good news is that I now know what I'm doing here, AND I no
longer have any of the permission problems I had originally. I
have actually learned how to control this aspect of the machine,
and it now works like I think it should.

So, just as soon as I get Celestia set up - AGAIN - I'll be ready to
go here.

EDIT: To Fenerit, I actually REMOVED approximately 6 GB of pure
advertising and CRAP from this thing this time. ISP's that I didn't
ever wish to use, links to music and video that I'll never wish to
purchase, etc. This is what burns me the most about this Vista
software. Everything you touch tries to sell you something.
Just pure BS.

Thanks all for your help and support.

Take care, Brain-Dead

My ENTIRE installation covering about 10 Gb of hard disk's space on 40 Gb; with 3d modellers (textures incl.), players, image processors, hundreds of utility and three Celestia's versions with lots of add-ons (mostly tripled) and some VT. It should be inacceptable for everyone the 6 Gb of pure nothing. Often, 10 small programs for 1 Mb total performs operations made from one single 100 Mb's program: e.a: whether with about 1 to 5 Mb one can mastering a DVD, why it must install 500 Mb? Or: may one do an installation of Photoshop CS2 to flip an image and not more? The Celestia's .exe it's only 1,57 Mb, and yet look at what it's able to do!

[BobHegwood]

Sorry my friend, I mistook GB for MB... In other words, I removed 6 MB
of advertising crap and links from my machine. That's still plenty of
crap though.

They should be paying ME to use the damned thing. Sorry again, I'm
just getting grumpier and grumpier the older I get.

Take care, and thanks for your help.

[Fenerit]

Ahhh, I breath... But there is never to joke with M$ about the wasted space due to the (un)useful programs...

[LordFerret]

I'm not a very patient guy anyway

Heh! You and me both. My fuse is about this -->- long... PTSD.


Glad you're up and running tho!

[Johaen]

All that "crap" isn't from Vista. It's from HP. You'd get the same thing with XP installed by HP, or any other company (dell, etc.). Yet another reason to build your own machine. That, and you'd actually be able to intall XP, or even Linux if you so chose. This Viiv thing sounds like a bunch of crap. Of course, this is just my opinion on the matter.

[BobHegwood]

All that "crap" isn't from Vista. It's from HP.

Yes, you may well be correct about that. Vista does, however, do the
same thing with its Media Player as noted earlier. It also tries to get
you involved in the "Vista Customer Experience" crap. This involves
connecting you to the Microsoft web site - whether you want to be
connected or not. It also involves connecting you to Microsoft - again,
whether you want to be connected or not - in order to display the
help files which should already be available on your machine.
Etc.., etc...

Vista also features so many errors that the average person - meaning
ME - simply cannot sit down and use the damned system without
problems.

Sorry, but them's the facts.

Take care, Bob