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Post #181by ElChristou » 01.06.2007, 14:35

ANDREA wrote:Sure, but it was probably removed AFTER the final alignment, because no more needed, but as you see in the second image of my post on Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:35 am, it was there while the seismometer was still under installation.
I have found any witten documentation about boom removal, anyway, I'll search a bit more.


Andrea, I think we are not yalking about the same thing; in the diagram above, the main difference with others docs is the boom attachement. It is not present in any shots on ground. Now the alignement handle is stowed for transport (as shown in the diagram), then once on ground, opened to align the LRRR (once done, it just stay in open position. It cannot be removed)
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Post #182by ANDREA » 01.06.2007, 15:14

ElChristou wrote:
ANDREA wrote:...I have found any witten documentation about boom removal, anyway, I'll search a bit more.
Andrea, I think we are not yalking about the same thing; in the diagram above, the main difference with others docs is the boom attachement. It is not present in any shots on ground. Now the alignement handle is stowed for transport (as shown in the diagram), then once on ground, opened to align the LRRR (once done, it just stay in open position. It cannot be removed)

Correct, I agree on my misunderstanding.
Here is the final proof that we both are right:
this image has been taken AFTER the Apollo 11 EVA, and the boom is still there, in open position:

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Here is a curious image where you can see six (!!!) experiments/objects left on the Moon, from upper left to lower right: TV Camera- Flag- Solar Wind- LRRR- Stereo Camera- Seismometer:

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Nice! :twisted:

Regarding the passive seismometer, here is the official NASA drawing:

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and here http://nho.ohn.free.fr/celestia/Andrea/ ... er-new.rar
you'll find some more images.
Hope this will be useful, otherwise inform me and I'll search something more. :wink:
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Post #183by linuxm@n » 01.06.2007, 19:18

You can find images i found here

http://celestiasws.free.fr/apollo-images.zip

not only Apollo 11 but if that could help....

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Post #184by ElChristou » 01.06.2007, 21:46

linuxm@n wrote:You can find images i found here

http://celestiasws.free.fr/apollo-images.zip

not only Apollo 11 but if that could help....

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I think when the work is done, we should do a big archive of all the docs used for this addons and put it somewhere to make the work easier for the next generation of active Celestians... (perhaps in a few years those models could be redone in higher def?)
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Post #185by ANDREA » 01.06.2007, 22:06

linuxm@n wrote:You can find images i found here
http://celestiasws.free.fr/apollo-images.zip not only Apollo 11 but if that could help....Linuxman

Thanks a lot, Linuxm@n, the Apollo 11 CM images are very interesting.
Just curious, the man shown in the image 150100_Sci_Museum_London_apollo10.jpg are you? :wink:
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Post #186by ANDREA » 01.06.2007, 22:10

ElChristou wrote:
linuxm@n wrote:You can find images i found here
http://celestiasws.free.fr/apollo-images.zip not only Apollo 11 but if that could help....Linuxman
I think when the work is done, we should do a big archive of all the docs used for this addons and put it somewhere to make the work easier for the next generation of active Celestians... (perhaps in a few years those models could be redone in higher def?)

Chris, I can agree, but we'd need a big space to allocate the zillions of images/documents we gathered up to now (and every day more and more are coming). :wink:
Well, we'll see at the end of this adventure.
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Post #187by linuxm@n » 03.06.2007, 10:22

Just curious, the man shown in the image 150100_Sci_Museum_London_apollo10.jpg are you? :wink:
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Post #188by Hungry4info » 03.06.2007, 19:51

If this project is successful, which I am sure it will be, have you given some thought into doing the rest of the Apollo missions? You'll already have some of the models needed. Just a thought.
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Post #189by ANDREA » 03.06.2007, 21:22

Hungry4info wrote:If this project is successful, which I am sure it will be, have you given some thought into doing the rest of the Apollo missions? You'll already have some of the models needed. Just a thought.

Hungry4info, just thinking to search and check the same number of documents and images for 5 and 1/2 (Apollo 13!) more Apollo missions gets me a strong headache, but the last word obviously is to Chris, not to me.
If he will decide for a "yes", well, we are a team, and I'll follow him. :wink:
But remember that we are working to this project from a lot of time, and still a lot of time and Chris' work is needed to finish it. 8O
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Post #190by ElChristou » 03.06.2007, 21:50

I'm not sure there is a real interest in doing others Apollo missions. Of course one with the rover would be welcome, but first let end this one and we will see...
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Post #191by ANDREA » 03.06.2007, 22:11

ElChristou wrote:I'm not sure there is a real interest in doing others Apollo missions. Of course one with the rover would be welcome, but first let end this one and we will see...

Rover?!?!
Mmmmm... I'm going to start the search. :wink:
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Post #192by CurlSnout » 03.06.2007, 23:05

Linuxm@n has contributed some outstanding addons representing the Russian space program (I am eagerly anticipating the new N1 pack).

Regarding the U.S. program, we already have a wonderful Mercury capsule, and with this, current, project we will have some great Apollo hardware. In my humble opinion, if anything is missing it will be a nice package to represent the U.S. GEMINI program....

Maybe something along those lines is do-able?

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Post #193by linuxm@n » 03.06.2007, 23:09

Hungry4info wrote:If this project is successful, which I am sure it will be, have you given some thought into doing the rest of the Apollo missions? You'll already have some of the models needed. Just a thought.


If my friend Gilles Mor?©re finishes his orbit calculation software and if it finished his version, Everybody will be able to use it for any spacecraft. It will must to have some data time position and power engines. The software is now able to make a takeoff of a rocket with the fall of the stages. Gilles works now for the separation of the rocket panels . After he will integrate the data on the Moon in order to create the Lunar orbits. Hoping all which he arrives to close !

(Hum! Chistophe j'?©sp?©re que mon anglais est compris )

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Post #194by ElChristou » 03.06.2007, 23:50

CurlSnout wrote:Linuxm@n has contributed some outstanding addons representing the Russian space program (I am eagerly anticipating the new N1 pack).

Regarding the U.S. program, we already have a wonderful Mercury capsule, and with this, current, project we will have some great Apollo hardware. In my humble opinion, if anything is missing it will be a nice package to represent the U.S. GEMINI program....

Maybe something along those lines is do-able?


The only little problem of the Gemini is that I want to it full 3D (not texture) just like Liberty Bell. Now as I already put on its knees my laptop during the LB construction, I know I won't be able to do it till I change my config... :?
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Post #195by ElChristou » 03.06.2007, 23:54

linuxm@n wrote:...(Hum! Chistophe j'?©sp?©re que mon anglais est compris )

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Je pense que oui... et puis c'est un tr??s bon exercice! :wink:
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Post #196by linuxm@n » 07.06.2007, 19:35

I have send a post on th Back in USSR thread there you can dow
load a video ,it is the result from Gilles'orbit calcultion program.
This is launch with stage separations.




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Post #197by ElChristou » 22.06.2007, 21:04

I'm still a bit short of time those days so the modelling is a bit in standby but in the meantime Linuxm@n and Gilles are still working on their calculations and I use the little time I keep for Celestia for other little things...

So patience is the word! :oops: :wink:
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Post #198by linuxm@n » 27.06.2007, 22:01

ElChristou wrote:I'm still a bit short of time those days so the modelling is a bit in standby but in the meantime Linuxm@n and Gilles are still working on their calculations and I use the little time I keep for Celestia for other little things...

So patience is the word! :oops: :wink:



To have an idea of ssc and xyz calculation we will use for Apollo 11, have ?  look on Back in USSR topic and load the N1 test pack.( Be carefull landing s?©quense is the same one as the Apollo 11 test landing pack)

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http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90212#90212


THIS RUN ON CELESTIA 14.1

My friend Gilles is working now to have very best fine precision for his program and will test it with El Christou Apollo 11 models with 1.5pre cvs

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Post #199by Cham » 27.06.2007, 22:16

linuxm@n wrote:THIS RUN ON CELESTIA 14.1


Version 14.1 !? OMG ! THERE'S A DIRECT LINK TO THE BRAIN with that version ! Where can I download it ?



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Post #200by linuxm@n » 28.06.2007, 06:35

Version 14.1 !?

Sorry cham iimean celestia 1.41 official version

direct link for the pack
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