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Post #21by Cham » 30.05.2007, 17:11

As I already told to Dirkpitt by private email, this new scripts menu is really wonderfull. I love it as it is and, IMHO, don't need anything more for the scripts menu (I don't think I would use the scripts browser if there was any). 8)

Now, what is the utility to leave the Demo script in the "Celestia" menu ? I suggest that it is removed from there (and its "D" shortcut also removed), and the demo script placed in the new scripts folder.

My students were frequently hiting "D" by mistake (since it's close to the F and G shortcuts), and that was very confusing to them : they don't remember that they can cancel a script using the "ESCAPE" key. However, despite the students frequent mistake, the "D" shortcut could be used for something more important than the demo script.
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Post #22by ElChristou » 30.05.2007, 17:38

I agree with Cham, the run demo item should be removed, and now I also find the "run script" item is useless...
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Post #23by Cham » 30.05.2007, 17:43

ElChristou wrote:and now I also find the "run script" item is useless...


You mean "Open script ..." ?

I don't agree here (if it's what you were talking about). Sometimes, I have some experimental scripts on my desktop that I want to use (without going to the desktop and double-clicking on it). So the "Open script..." menu item is usefull.
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Post #24by ElChristou » 30.05.2007, 18:04

Cham wrote:
ElChristou wrote:and now I also find the "run script" item is useless...

You mean "Open script ..." ?

I don't agree here (if it's what you were talking about). Sometimes, I have some experimental scripts on my desktop that I want to use (without going to the desktop and double-clicking on it). So the "Open script..." menu item is usefull.


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Post #25by chris » 30.05.2007, 19:54

Cham wrote:My students were frequently hiting "D" by mistake (since it's close to the F and G shortcuts), and that was very confusing to them : they don't remember that they can cancel a script using the "ESCAPE" key. However, despite the students frequent mistake, the "D" shortcut could be used for something more important than the demo script.


I agree that the scripts menu makes the demo obsolete. The demo should be moved to the scripts directory and the D shortcut removed. Anyone want to volunteer to write the new official demo scripts? I think that the current one is very dated.

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Post #26by chris » 30.05.2007, 19:55

dirkpitt wrote:I added a Scripts menu to the OS X version. Currently it is only in my unofficial builds.

I decided to make the behaviour of the menu basically the same as the Windows version for now (i.e., Title is displayed if available, and subfolders are not scanned). What do you guys think?


Thank you for implementing this in the OS X version. It's very easy to change the code to scan subfolders of the scripts directory if people want that.

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Post #27by Cham » 30.05.2007, 20:01

chris wrote:Thank you for implementing this in the OS X version. It's very easy to change the code to scan subfolders of the scripts directory if people want that.


That could be very usefull. I personally have a subfolder full of scripts I rarely use. Could be very handy to have that subfolder to be shown in the scripts menu as well.

Sub directories could also help organising the scripts menu with various subjects (planets scripts, galactic scripts, etc).

I'm still experimenting with the scripts menu right now. It's working very well.
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Post #28by dirkpitt » 30.05.2007, 23:43

Cham wrote:
chris wrote:It's very easy to change the code to scan subfolders of the scripts directory if people want that.

That could be very usefull. I personally have a subfolder full of scripts I rarely use. Could be very handy to have that subfolder to be shown in the scripts menu as well.


Ok, I'll try that in my next build. Subfolders would show up as submenus.

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Post #29by ElChristou » 31.05.2007, 00:33

The tag -- Title: is really cool, but seems to not be supported by cel script; someone confirm? (the tag is recognized by the menu but breack the script)
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Post #30by Cham » 31.05.2007, 00:35

ElChristou wrote:The tag -- Title: is really cool, but seems to not be supported by cel script; someone confirm? (the tag is recognized by the menu but breack the script)


I confirm this. The tag info is appearing in the menu, but the cel isn't working anymore. Removing the tag info makes the script to work again.
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Post #31by chris » 31.05.2007, 02:13

Cham wrote:
ElChristou wrote:The tag -- Title: is really cool, but seems to not be supported by cel script; someone confirm? (the tag is recognized by the menu but breack the script)

I confirm this. The tag info is appearing in the menu, but the cel isn't working anymore. Removing the tag info makes the script to work again.


The problem is the --. You need to use .cel style comments, not Lua style comments. So instead of

Code: Select all

-- Title: My Script


use:

Code: Select all

# Title: My Script


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Post #32by Cham » 31.05.2007, 02:20

Haaa, yes. It works now. Thanks Chris.
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Post #33by ElChristou » 31.05.2007, 02:21

Ok!
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Post #34by starfleetengineer » 31.05.2007, 11:33

Cham wrote:...the "D" shortcut could be used for something more important than the demo script.
I have long since remapped the "D" key to invoke the Warpdrive... (because D stands for "Drive" of course!... not "Demo"!. :lol:

Another handy use of the "D" key is to quickly run a script to reset FOV to a default value (in my case 35 degrees), as it can often change with accidental keystrokes or window maximising or minimising.
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Post #35by ElChristou » 31.05.2007, 13:07

chris wrote:...The demo should be moved to the scripts directory and the D shortcut removed. Anyone want to volunteer to write the new official demo scripts? I think that the current one is very dated.


Unfortunatly I'm unable to do that, but what would be cool is to use Toti's B-spline to have some really smooth displacement around planets...

Also a little look before returning home on the large scale structure of the galaxies would be welcome...
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Post #36by Vincent » 31.05.2007, 18:46

I can give it a try, but first, we should come to an agreement about the synopsis. As suggested by Chris, the script shouldn't ignore a view of the galaxies at large scale. Any other suggestions ?
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Post #37by t00fri » 31.05.2007, 19:05

starfleetengineer wrote:...
Another handy use of the "D" key is to quickly run a script to reset FOV to a default value (in my case 35 degrees), as it can often change with accidental keystrokes or window maximising or minimising.


A long long time ago I implemented the middle mouse key to toggle between the actual and the default FoV. Try it, it still works ;-)

It's much more handy than some D key...

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Post #38by t00fri » 31.05.2007, 19:08

Is it really true that Linux is now 'behind' as to the script menue...Wow.


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Post #39by ElChristou » 31.05.2007, 19:11

Vincent wrote:I can give it a try, but first, we should come to an agreement about the synopsis. As suggested by Chris, the script shouldn't ignore a view of the galaxies at large scale. Any other suggestions ?



What about something simple, no text, just to show what Celestia is able to do?

The demo could star near earth on dark side (kind what's the hell is this? all is dark, nothing to see?), then when the Sun appears, a simple, long zoom out, passing near various bodies: sapcecraft (ISS), asteroid, planets, stars (with exo planets) then Milky Way, local group, ending on a general view of the deepsky catalog, a few seconds of rotation, then a quick come back to earth and stop...

This could be nice if the observer trajectory, speed, and PoV are carefully chossen...
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Post #40by Christophe » 31.05.2007, 19:15

t00fri wrote:Is it really true that Linux is now 'behind' as to the script menue...Wow.


Gna gna gna...

But the Windows GUI uses the main script directory which is normaly not the one used by a Linux user, so the adaptation would require a bit of refinement, may be scanning all the extrasdirs for scripts? or adding a scriptdir config option?
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