Where is the French Keychart ?

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Where is the French Keychart ?

Post #1by Cham » 15.01.2007, 23:38

I'm looking for the French Keychart of the Celestia keyboard, like the one available (in English) at the Motherlode :

http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catal ... ation.html

I know it exist because I saw a printed version last semester. But I need the PDF version. Any info on that ?
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Post #2by Vincent » 16.01.2007, 08:30

Cham,

Is this what you're looking for ?
> http://www.ikiru.ch/celestia/Archives/T ... ap_132.pdf
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Post #3by Cham » 16.01.2007, 08:36

Vincent,

maybe this is it, but I'm not sure about the vivid colors. I mean, I think it was exactly like the English version, but in French. I'm not sure, maybe this is it.

Where does it come from ? Why it isn't on the Motherlode ?
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Post #4by Vincent » 16.01.2007, 08:45

Cham,

You may found some answers there:
http://www.gap.ien.05.ac-aix-marseille. ... ticle=1127
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Post #5by Cham » 16.01.2007, 08:52

Thanks (Merci !).

The Black/White version is much better. However, I think that the file I saw two months ago was better made : exactly the same design as the English version, but in French. I'm not sure it's the same file as the one on the site above, but I may be wrong.
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Post #6by t00fri » 16.01.2007, 09:15

I had no idea about the existence of these keytables and therefore had a look at the English version for the first time.

I immediately asked myself why these tables display a full model of the keyboard besides explaining the meanings of the respective keys?? Is this for people who might not know where to find the respective keys on the keyboard? ;-) . (ENDUSERS?)

Also the various groups of keys like e.g. time setting ones were displayed in a particular color. The result being an almost random distribution of these colored keys over the keyboard ;-) . So why was that done in the first place, given that there is ABSOLUTELY no underlying systematics ?

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Post #7by Cham » 16.01.2007, 09:21

Like you said, this chart is for endusers, and mostly to students. The colors may help them to find rapidly the right keys. I need a chart like this to distribute a copy to each of my students, in an introductory astronomy course. It's usefull to them.

(by the way Fridger, have you received my email ?).
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Post #8by t00fri » 16.01.2007, 12:28

Cham wrote:...
(by the way Fridger, have you received my email ?).


Cham,

yes, I did. But in order to really evaluate your questions and claims in depth, I need to spend at least a couple of hours on the issue. These I do not have right now, unfortunately. I have explained to you my reasons why other things have higher priority for me.

There are a few observations I could make earlier about your previous mail ("The proof") which I may communicate to you. Your proof does not surprise me, in fact.

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Post #9by ElChristou » 16.01.2007, 13:12

t00fri wrote:...There are a few observations I could make earlier about your previous mail ("The proof") which I may communicate to you. Your proof does not surprise me, in fact...


What proof? what proof?? :wink:
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Post #10by Cham » 16.01.2007, 18:28

Vincent wrote:Cham,

You may found some answers there:
http://www.gap.ien.05.ac-aix-marseille. ... ticle=1127


I just noticed that the keyboard shown on that keymap isn't even a "QWERTY" keyboard ! This isn't the French "keychart" I saw few months ago.

Someone has info on another French keychart ?
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Post #11by Adirondack » 17.01.2007, 12:35

Cham wrote:Why it isn't on the Motherlode ?
Cham,

as you already discovered, these charts are not what you are looking for. :wink:

I did add the NASA-keychart to the CML since this chart is part of the
NASA's (somewhat official) educational stuff.

If you have found a french keychart you like, just drop me a line and I will add
it to the documentations page on the CML.

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