Alan Federman´s NASA site

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Alan Federman??s NASA site

Post #1by danielj » 02.11.2006, 17:17

Why the site exp.arc.nasa.gov is offline?I think the Ceres map I get from there.Is there any idea when will be online again?Or any mirror?
Some textures were only found there...
Sorry to say that,but Celestia Motherlode is incomplete.
What about Jim??s 8k Mercury texture?What about ANY texture bigger than 4k for Mercury?
It appear that several sites are offline and don??t understand why!
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Re: Alan Federman??s NASA site

Post #2by rthorvald » 02.11.2006, 17:58

danielj wrote:Why the site exp.arc.nasa.gov is offline?I think the Ceres map I get from there.Is there any idea when will be online again?Or any mirror?
Only the owners of that site knows that...

danielj wrote:Sorry to say that,but Celestia Motherlode is incomplete.
The Motherlode will always be "incomplete". This is obviously because
A) Not everyone wants their work to appear on the ML
B) The Motherlode is a volunteer effort. They don??t have a million drones that catalogues everything anyone in the world has ever produced.

danielj wrote:It appear that several sites are offline and don??t understand why!

Maybe the people that owns them has shut them down?

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Post #3by bh » 02.11.2006, 19:39

Why? We may never know.
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Re: Alan Federman??s NASA site

Post #4by julesstoop » 02.11.2006, 20:47

danielj wrote:It appear that several sites are offline and don??t understand why!


Calm down, drink some water. No one will just "walk by" and tell you.
You might want to try and investigate for yourself in this case.
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Post #5by marvelastal » 10.11.2006, 04:22

*.nasa.gov sites pereodically offline.
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Post #6by danielj » 10.11.2006, 21:31

Great,but this site is ALWAYS offline.Since several months ago...

marvelastal wrote:*.nasa.gov sites pereodically offline.
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Post #7by bh » 10.11.2006, 21:40

Get over it then.
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Post #8by Malenfant » 10.11.2006, 22:19

Maybe they've shut it down then. Either way, nobody here would know why it's down or be able to bring it back up again, so it's just tough luck.
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Post #9by selden » 10.11.2006, 23:04

My (perhaps mistaken) impression was that they had lost funding several years ago. I actually was surprised the site had stayed up for so long.
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Post #10by danielj » 11.11.2006, 01:43

It??s an absurd.There were files that I only find there,now you are saying they are lost forever?It??s unbeliveable that no one creted a mirror or something like that...


selden wrote:My (perhaps mistaken) impression was that they had lost funding several years ago. I actually was surprised the site had stayed up for so long.
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Post #11by Malenfant » 11.11.2006, 01:50

danielj wrote:It??s an absurd.There were files that I only find there,now you are saying they are lost forever?It??s unbeliveable that no one creted a mirror or something like that...


Just like in life, things come and go on the web. If you see something you like, download it and keep it on your hard disk if you're worried that it'll disappear.
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Post #12by Telepath » 11.11.2006, 05:34

Malenfant wrote:Just like in life, things come and go on the web. If you see something you like, download it and keep it on your hard disk if you're worried that it'll disappear.

Malenfant,
I'm sure you just forgot to add the following to your advice... 8)
"...as long as the copyright owner expressly and explicitly gives you permission. If he doesn't, then you can't and you are violating his copyright. "
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Post #13by Malenfant » 11.11.2006, 05:52

Telepath wrote:I'm sure you just forgot to add the following to your advice... 8)
"...as long as the copyright owner expressly and explicitly gives you permission. If he doesn't, then you can't and you are violating his copyright. "


No I didn't. If someone's making something available to download, then he'd darn well better be giving permission for people to download it!

Besides, the only time copyright is a problem is if you download something and then make it available elsewhere without permission. If all it's doing is sitting on your hard drive then it's not an issue.
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Post #14by rthorvald » 11.11.2006, 06:07

Telepath wrote:I'm sure you just forgot to add the following to your advice... 8)
"...as long as the copyright owner expressly and explicitly gives you permission. If he doesn't, then you can't and you are violating his copyright. "

... I hope you clean out your browser cache after viewing each page...

There??s no copyright infringement in keeping a local copy of a published webpage for personal use. In fact, it is quite impossible *not* to download each and every page you look at. The forum page you are reading right now is stored on your hard drive. How long it stays there depends solely on your personal computer/browser setup.

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PS to danjelj:
http://www.archive.org very possibly have the pages you are interested in, though likely not any downloadables associated with them.
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Post #15by Telepath » 11.11.2006, 06:46

rthorvald wrote:... I hope you clean out your browser cache after viewing each page...
Always! :lol:

rthorvald wrote:There??s no copyright infringement in keeping a local copy of a published webpage for personal use. In fact, it is quite impossible *not* to download each and every page you look at.
Perfectly true, except for the linked content.
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Post #16by John Van Vliet » 11.11.2006, 21:05

things come and go , like my site , hopfully in a year or two i will be back up and running
( with a faster conection) ?
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