1.2.5pre7 is ready. I had intended to have 1.2.5 final ready this weekend, but I've been having some trouble with the Linux autoconf stuff.
http://www.shatters.net/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.2.5pre7.exe
This is a complete installation of Celestia, not just the EXE. There have been quite a few changes to solarsys.ssc and a new file was added.
If you download this release, the first thing you should do is recreate the Galileo-Amalthea encounter at 6:19UT on 5 Nov 2002. The prerelease has a complete trajectory for the Galileo mission, so you can go back to the launch date and follow the spacecraft on it's course from Earth to Jupiter, through 35 orbits, and to it's final plunge into Jupiter's atmosphere in September 2003.
http://ennui.shatters.net/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=celestia&id=amalthea
--Chris
Final prerelease
you forgot to rename the Galaxies.dat to Galaxies_and_Clusters.dat
more detailed info in the bugs forum
I was also hopeing to see those new Icons, that Don made
more detailed info in the bugs forum
I was also hopeing to see those new Icons, that Don made
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RAM- 2Gb 1066MHz DDR2
Motherboard- Gigabyte P35 DQ6
Video Card- Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS + 640Mb
Hard Drives- 2 SATA Raptor 10000rpm 150GB
OS- Windows Vista Home Premium 32
Hmmm. Celestia shows the closest approach to somewhat closer than NASA's published prediction of 160km. Tch. Those NASA folks have gotta get their calculators fixed before they collide with something!.
And what does turning off the cameras have to do with gravity measurements? (See the press release at http://galileo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/release/press021029.html) I thought they used doppler shifts in the transmission signal to deduce the accelerations. My understanding was that charged particles in the radiation belts would be zapping the CCDs, so they'd only be seeing noise, anyhow.
Aha: maye it's related to the power requirements. See http://galileo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/thiswk/today021104.html They're shifting more power to the fundamental carrier frequency to improve the received signal-to-noise ratio at the Madrid groundstation.
This second article includes more timing details that can be checked in Celestia:
1) flyby of Io at 7:41pm PST (GMT-8) at 45,250km.
2) enter Jupiter's shadow at 11:14
3) leave view of Earth at 11:25 pst
4) peri-Jove at ~00:08 at ~71,500km above cloudtops
5) leave Jupiter's shadow at ~00:13 pst
6) visible from Earth at ~00:23 pst
7) cross Io's orbit outbound at 4:15am pst
According to the note at the bottom of the article, all of the above times are ERT (Earth Received Time), 44 minutes after SCET (SpaceCraft Event Time). So I think Celestia should show them to be happening at
1) 18:57 = 02:57 GMT
2) 22:30 = 06:30
3) 22:41 = 06:41
4) 23:24 = 07:24
5) 23:29 = 07:29
6) 23:39 = 07:39
7) 03:21 = 11:21 GMT
I did all the arithmetic in my head so I probably dropped a decimal point somewhere...
And what does turning off the cameras have to do with gravity measurements? (See the press release at http://galileo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/release/press021029.html) I thought they used doppler shifts in the transmission signal to deduce the accelerations. My understanding was that charged particles in the radiation belts would be zapping the CCDs, so they'd only be seeing noise, anyhow.
Aha: maye it's related to the power requirements. See http://galileo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/thiswk/today021104.html They're shifting more power to the fundamental carrier frequency to improve the received signal-to-noise ratio at the Madrid groundstation.
This second article includes more timing details that can be checked in Celestia:
1) flyby of Io at 7:41pm PST (GMT-8) at 45,250km.
2) enter Jupiter's shadow at 11:14
3) leave view of Earth at 11:25 pst
4) peri-Jove at ~00:08 at ~71,500km above cloudtops
5) leave Jupiter's shadow at ~00:13 pst
6) visible from Earth at ~00:23 pst
7) cross Io's orbit outbound at 4:15am pst
According to the note at the bottom of the article, all of the above times are ERT (Earth Received Time), 44 minutes after SCET (SpaceCraft Event Time). So I think Celestia should show them to be happening at
1) 18:57 = 02:57 GMT
2) 22:30 = 06:30
3) 22:41 = 06:41
4) 23:24 = 07:24
5) 23:29 = 07:29
6) 23:39 = 07:39
7) 03:21 = 11:21 GMT
I did all the arithmetic in my head so I probably dropped a decimal point somewhere...
Selden
Chris, could you post your solarsys.ssc file for download...I ended up overwriting the new with the old lol
I dont notice any major problems cept models are different? Were there any changes to the 3ds classes?
Another great job chris...wish me luck on Planet Builder 1.0...something I have in the wings to create for Celestia that will give the user a more visual aspect to ssc files...Heres the first installment: http://www.celestiaproject.net/~rassilon/atmosphere.zip
What it currently does is allow you to enter Celestia rgb values while giving a graphical visualization of what the atmosphere would look like with those values...just remember to hit the enter button to process the values...on the right side the program outputs the text you can copy and paste into an ssc file...
I think I will be making one that helps with making accurate orbital values for the planets and eventually have the ability to output one complete ssc file...The planets wont be the only thing...I plan on making a global cluster generator and asteroid planetary ring generator as well...
More to come on that...
I dont notice any major problems cept models are different? Were there any changes to the 3ds classes?
Another great job chris...wish me luck on Planet Builder 1.0...something I have in the wings to create for Celestia that will give the user a more visual aspect to ssc files...Heres the first installment: http://www.celestiaproject.net/~rassilon/atmosphere.zip
What it currently does is allow you to enter Celestia rgb values while giving a graphical visualization of what the atmosphere would look like with those values...just remember to hit the enter button to process the values...on the right side the program outputs the text you can copy and paste into an ssc file...
I think I will be making one that helps with making accurate orbital values for the planets and eventually have the ability to output one complete ssc file...The planets wont be the only thing...I plan on making a global cluster generator and asteroid planetary ring generator as well...
More to come on that...
I'm trying to teach the cavemen how to play scrabble, its uphill work. The only word they know is Uhh and they dont know how to spell it!
Just a quick off-topic update: Galileo went into safe mode while passing Amalthea 
so they didn't manage to do the gravity/mass measurement.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2002/release_2002_205.cfm
so they didn't manage to do the gravity/mass measurement.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2002/release_2002_205.cfm
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http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/solarsys.sscRassilon wrote:Chris, could you post your solarsys.ssc file for download...I ended up overwriting the new with the old lol
Rassilon wrote:I dont notice any major problems cept models are different? Were there any changes to the 3ds classes?
--Chris
probably nothing really the models just seemed to load slower was all...no biggie...I assumed by that slower loading that something may have been added...but I am also going by a 3ds thats ~5 megs in size 
I'm trying to teach the cavemen how to play scrabble, its uphill work. The only word they know is Uhh and they dont know how to spell it!
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Michael
new release
PLEASE, I downloaded the latest pre-release and it runs VERY slowly! Choppy! The planets have lines on the "equator".
I have "integrated graphics", I know not the best, but 1.2.4 ran very well and many of the add-ons worked very well. I really like this program but, if the newer versions won't run, I cannot use it.
Help????
I have "integrated graphics", I know not the best, but 1.2.4 ran very well and many of the add-ons worked very well. I really like this program but, if the newer versions won't run, I cannot use it.
Help????
Michael,
Have you tried downloading the most recent graphics drivers from your PC vendor's support site?
Also, please post the details about your OpenGL configuration. It's available in Celestia's Help menu. The popup information window is designed so you can use cut-and-paste to enter the information into your posting, too: you don't have to retype it.
Have you tried downloading the most recent graphics drivers from your PC vendor's support site?
Also, please post the details about your OpenGL configuration. It's available in Celestia's Help menu. The popup information window is designed so you can use cut-and-paste to enter the information into your posting, too: you don't have to retype it.
Selden
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Michael
Thank you!! I installed the latest drivers and things seem to be working well. My openGL info:
Vendor: Intel
Renderer: Intel Solano
Version: 1.1.2 - Build 4.13.01.3196
Max simultaneous textures: 2
Max texture size: 1024
Supported Extensions:
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_EXT_abgr
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_EXT_cull_vertex
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_packed_pixels_12
GL_EXT_paletted_texture
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_WIN_swap_hint
This does not mean much to me! It mentions texture size of 1024, but I have used larger textures with good results. How about specular maps? Can I use them?
Would it be possible for me to change/install a new graphics card myself?
I LOVE this program and have been reading another post about graphics cards.
Thank You!
Vendor: Intel
Renderer: Intel Solano
Version: 1.1.2 - Build 4.13.01.3196
Max simultaneous textures: 2
Max texture size: 1024
Supported Extensions:
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_EXT_abgr
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_EXT_cull_vertex
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_packed_pixels_12
GL_EXT_paletted_texture
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_WIN_swap_hint
This does not mean much to me! It mentions texture size of 1024, but I have used larger textures with good results. How about specular maps? Can I use them?
Would it be possible for me to change/install a new graphics card myself?
I LOVE this program and have been reading another post about graphics cards.
Thank You!
Michael,
OpenGL 1.1.2 doesn't have as many features as the newest standard, 1.4, but I don't know exactly what the differences are. The version of the OpenGL support is determined by the graphics drivers supplied by the vendor.
In principle, installing a graphics card is certainly possible. The details of what kind you can use depends on your system. Hopefully they includes a user's manual, probably on CD. Briefly, you have to find out how to disable the onboard graphics and whether or not your system includes an AGP slot. Without that, you'd have to get a PCI grahics card. Then the feature set of the new card would be determined by how much you can afford...
OpenGL 1.1.2 doesn't have as many features as the newest standard, 1.4, but I don't know exactly what the differences are. The version of the OpenGL support is determined by the graphics drivers supplied by the vendor.
In principle, installing a graphics card is certainly possible. The details of what kind you can use depends on your system. Hopefully they includes a user's manual, probably on CD. Briefly, you have to find out how to disable the onboard graphics and whether or not your system includes an AGP slot. Without that, you'd have to get a PCI grahics card. Then the feature set of the new card would be determined by how much you can afford...
Selden
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Michael
Chris, is it possible to show the "Celestia" logo for a longer time?
This due to the fact that, when starting, the system needs some second to open the screen, and many times the logo has just disappeared.
Second, have I missed something, or the possibility to choose as "Standard" a resolution different from "Windows mode" is not yet applied? This is another time wasting problem, because everytime I start the program I have to reset this parameter.
Third, I noted that if during a .cel show I change something (e.g. distance, or orbits ON, or text from absent to verbose, and so on), the next time that I will start the same .cel show it will start with the last configuration I applied DURING the show.
Could it be possible to connect the .cel file to an .ini file, that takes memory of the solutions choosen for the show, so that even if I change something during the show itself, next time it will start with the same configuration written in .ini?
Sorry for this long e-mail, and thank you for your answer.
Andrea
This due to the fact that, when starting, the system needs some second to open the screen, and many times the logo has just disappeared.
Second, have I missed something, or the possibility to choose as "Standard" a resolution different from "Windows mode" is not yet applied? This is another time wasting problem, because everytime I start the program I have to reset this parameter.
Third, I noted that if during a .cel show I change something (e.g. distance, or orbits ON, or text from absent to verbose, and so on), the next time that I will start the same .cel show it will start with the last configuration I applied DURING the show.
Could it be possible to connect the .cel file to an .ini file, that takes memory of the solutions choosen for the show, so that even if I change something during the show itself, next time it will start with the same configuration written in .ini?
Sorry for this long e-mail, and thank you for your answer.
Andrea
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I was wondering if chris could put the tarballs of the latest pre-release as a download... I only saw the win version.
Hell, if the problem is with compilation, then the odds that someone finds a fix might be slightly increased :)
Also, a pet peeve of mine is that I need to be root to install addons to celestia. wouldn't it be possible for celestia to read from $HOME/.celestia/* and load whatever data there is ?
(If this is already the case, sorry)
Hell, if the problem is with compilation, then the odds that someone finds a fix might be slightly increased :)
Also, a pet peeve of mine is that I need to be root to install addons to celestia. wouldn't it be possible for celestia to read from $HOME/.celestia/* and load whatever data there is ?
(If this is already the case, sorry)