Milky Way galaxy question

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Milky Way galaxy question

Post #1by big jay » 25.08.2006, 07:32

I just installed the mac version of Celestia and I zoomed out to make some renders of the milkyway galaxy and just realized that it did not match the model i have on the version on my pc or most images I've seen of our galaxy with the many arms. The new one is a bar galaxy model with a single arm, but I want to return to the older model for consistency.

Is there a way to change galaxy for the milky way?

this is Celestia 1.4.1 that I am using on the mac.

Thanks,

Jay

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Re: Milky Way galaxy question

Post #2by t00fri » 25.08.2006, 09:03

big jay wrote:I just installed the mac version of Celestia and I zoomed out to make some renders of the milkyway galaxy and just realized that it did not match the model i have on the version on my pc or most images I've seen of our galaxy with the many arms. The new one is a bar galaxy model with a single arm, but I want to return to the older model for consistency.

Is there a way to change galaxy for the milky way?

this is Celestia 1.4.1 that I am using on the mac.

Thanks,

Jay


In the forthcoming Celestia version, we will provide a much better MilkyWay template that implements all scientifically recorded structure of our galaxy. It will also match more realistically existing MilkyWay photographs, if viewed from Earth.

The new galaxy template format will be standard PNG and custom templates are supported. Hence everyone can add his/her favorite template for any galaxy beyond the default Hubble set.

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Post #3by Vincent » 25.08.2006, 10:17

Jay,

We're all looking forward to use the very promising galaxy template developped by Fridger and ElChristou... :wink:

Meanwhile, you can use this model integrated in the Celestia patch version :
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Celestia patch is available for Mac. You'll find more information here : http://www.celestiaproject.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9503
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Post #4by big jay » 26.08.2006, 03:21

Wow, thanks!

I forgot I applied the patch to my PC build.

I downloaded the source file. Installed the OpenAL framework and opened the Xcode file and tried to Build.Xcode 2.2 on 10.4.7 gave me a missing info.plist file.

So I tore open the celestia program file and copied the plist and resource folder contents into the project.

it now starts getting into the guts of making the file and i get this error:

[code]

Building target ?€?Celestia?€

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Post #5by big jay » 26.08.2006, 03:47

it looks like it is still complaining about that plist file being missing or wrong which in turn is causing other errors. Searching the forum hasn't revealed any solutions.

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Post #6by Vincent » 26.08.2006, 07:54

Jay,

Sorry, I can't help you since I'm not familiar with Mac system... However, some Mac users managed to compile Celestia patch 3, so they might be able to help you...

Meanwhile, you have several options :
- Many of the compilation problems under Mac/Linux came from the sound patch. So, just make a search for "sound" or "Victor" (the creator of the sound patch) in the code, and remove all the lines that concern the sound patch. Here are the concerned source files : cmdparser.cpp, command.cpp, command.h, celestiacore.cpp, celestiacore.h, and celx.cpp.
- If the only feature you need is the new galaxy model, you don't have to install the whole patch : just paste my models/SBbc.pts file into your models folder, and rename it Sbc.pts. However, all the Sbc Hubble type galaxies will be affected by this change.

I hope you will get some help from Mac users to be able to enjoy all the new features included in Celestia patch...
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Post #7by dirkpitt » 26.08.2006, 09:55

big jay wrote:I downloaded the source file.


Since all you want is the patched galaxy template (Vincent: perhaps you could make this a separate download?),
any more tips on how to compile is somewhat a moot point but anyway...

Where did you download your Celestia sources from? CVS? The 1.4.1 tarball? Also note that since you have OS X 10.4.x which includes OpenAL in the system by default, you don't need to download it again.

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Post #8by big jay » 27.08.2006, 06:30

i downloaded the file form the thread listed.

If it is just the galaxy Can I copy some files from my PC install to my Mac install to get it working? Like the galaxy file mentioned?

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Post #9by Vincent » 27.08.2006, 16:46

OK,

for all interested users who can't wait for Fridger's (and ElChristou's) new galaxy template
(see there : http://celestiaproject.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9993 :D ),
here's a link to download the SBbc.pts galaxy model integrated in Celestia patch :
http://vincent.gian.club.fr/celestia/SBbc.zip

- Unzip the file
- rename it SBc.pts
- Paste it into your "celestia/models" folder

Once again, whereas Celestia patch uses this new SBbc model
only for the Milky Way
, the method listed above will replace all your
SBc galaxies with the new SBbc model, which is not scientifically accurate...
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Post #10by big jay » 28.08.2006, 16:21

Thanks for the file. That worked.


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