I'm trying to set up a binary system where a white dwarf orbits a larger host star. I know how to do this if I'm creating the system from scratch, but the host star is already existant. I don't know how to put a star in orbit around an already existing star.
Any help?
Binary system
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Topic authorAngry Space Goat
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I had this same question not too long ago... It's really simple...
For example, lets say that you want to add a companion star to the star Castor; in your extras folder, make a folder called Castor and in that, add a text document containing the information of the secondary star and simply use the original star as your barycenter.
This is an exerpt from my Castor addon which will have the complete Castor system of 6 stars...
"Castor Ab"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Castor"
SpectralType "M5V"
AppMag 6.33
Radius 348000
EllipticalOrbit { # fully specified orientation
Period 9.21
SemiMajorAxis 1.1306 # mass ratio 2.25:0.65
Eccentricity 0.499
Inclination 114.5
AscendingNode 298.1
ArgOfPericenter 187.9
MeanAnomaly 133.8
}
}
To be 100% accurate, you can "modify" the parent star itself in order for it to orbit around a common center of gravity with its companion - a barycenter.
For example, lets say that you want to add a companion star to the star Castor; in your extras folder, make a folder called Castor and in that, add a text document containing the information of the secondary star and simply use the original star as your barycenter.
This is an exerpt from my Castor addon which will have the complete Castor system of 6 stars...
"Castor Ab"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Castor"
SpectralType "M5V"
AppMag 6.33
Radius 348000
EllipticalOrbit { # fully specified orientation
Period 9.21
SemiMajorAxis 1.1306 # mass ratio 2.25:0.65
Eccentricity 0.499
Inclination 114.5
AscendingNode 298.1
ArgOfPericenter 187.9
MeanAnomaly 133.8
}
}
To be 100% accurate, you can "modify" the parent star itself in order for it to orbit around a common center of gravity with its companion - a barycenter.
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Topic authorAngry Space Goat
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In order to have a default star orbit a barycenter you simply add the new information about the star to the .stc file and preceed with, "Modify." The only dificult thing is, you must know/find the Right Acention-Declination of the barycenter and then have your Binary System orbit that. I am trying to simply use Castor's coordinates for the barycenter and hoping celestia simply implaments the orbital paramiters of Castor, so it is no longer a fixed star. I'm still trying to get the bugs out of this one. Maybe you could figure it out? Good Luck.
Modify "Castor"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Castor Barycenter"
EllipticalOrbit { # fully specified orientation
Period 9.21
SemiMajorAxis 1.1306 # mass ratio 2.25:0.65
Eccentricity 0.499
Inclination 114.5
AscendingNode 298.1
ArgOfPericenter 187.9
MeanAnomaly 133.8
}
Modify "Castor"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Castor Barycenter"
EllipticalOrbit { # fully specified orientation
Period 9.21
SemiMajorAxis 1.1306 # mass ratio 2.25:0.65
Eccentricity 0.499
Inclination 114.5
AscendingNode 298.1
ArgOfPericenter 187.9
MeanAnomaly 133.8
}
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the passing of everyday human events
Isolation is the oxygen mask you make
your children breath into survive
- Marilyn Manson
Oh, when modifying anything, do not put it in the default star database (in this case). Put your modified default star in the same text document as your new companion star.
Nothing suffocates you more than
the passing of everyday human events
Isolation is the oxygen mask you make
your children breath into survive
- Marilyn Manson
the passing of everyday human events
Isolation is the oxygen mask you make
your children breath into survive
- Marilyn Manson
Lagrangian point
I would like to create a planet to Lagrangian point 5 of two stars orbiting each other... but how do i do it?
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Unfortunately, the stable lagrangian points only exist when the masses of the two primary objects are not equal. In particular, the mass of one of the two large objects must be more than ~25x the mass of the other one.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libration_point
In other words, it's easiest to construct them in systems where the smaller (M1) of the two large objects is shown as orbiting around the larger (M2) one. Then the tiny body that's in L5 can be defined to have the same orbit as M1, but lagging by 60 degrees: specify a MeanAnomaly for L5 that's 60 degrees less than the MeanAnomaly of M1.
Does this help?
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libration_point
In other words, it's easiest to construct them in systems where the smaller (M1) of the two large objects is shown as orbiting around the larger (M2) one. Then the tiny body that's in L5 can be defined to have the same orbit as M1, but lagging by 60 degrees: specify a MeanAnomaly for L5 that's 60 degrees less than the MeanAnomaly of M1.
Does this help?
Selden
Thanks
Yes, that helped very much... i had read only facts in http://www.cix.co.uk/~morven/worldkit/index.html#astro-sun
But fortunately and funnily I don't have to agree with laws of physics... Celestia helps me to disagree... Like when I made a moon to orbit inside a planet.
But fortunately and funnily I don't have to agree with laws of physics... Celestia helps me to disagree... Like when I made a moon to orbit inside a planet.
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Isn't a horseshoe orbit just a specific type of ordinary orbit around a body that is seen from within a rotating reference frame?
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My understanding is that a horseshoe orbit involves a change of major axis value when one body approaches another one that's in a similar orbit.
See http://www.astro.uwo.ca/~wiegert/3753/3753.html
Celestia cannot directly represent that except as a special, short-term orbit represented by an xyz trajectory.
See http://www.astro.uwo.ca/~wiegert/3753/3753.html
Celestia cannot directly represent that except as a special, short-term orbit represented by an xyz trajectory.
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selden wrote:My understanding is that a horseshoe orbit involves a change of major axis value when one body approaches another one that's in a similar orbit.
See http://www.astro.uwo.ca/~wiegert/3753/3753.html
Celestia cannot directly represent that except as a special, short-term orbit represented by an xyz trajectory.
Which could be fixed with cyclical (user defined) xyz trajectories.
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