Blue Venus revisited (large graphics inside)
Blue Venus revisited (large graphics inside)
While waiting for Venus Express, i felt inspired to update my old Blue Venus texture.
I have added bump and specmaps, re-textured the polar caps, and done a few tweaks to the ssc.
Everything in high resolution; it will land at about 100 mb. I have some more work in mind, though,
so there isn??t a download quite yet... But here is a few screenshots:
Ovda Regio (zooming out):
Aphrodite Terra, with/without clouds:
Maxwell Montes directly north:
Night lights:
-rthorvald
I have added bump and specmaps, re-textured the polar caps, and done a few tweaks to the ssc.
Everything in high resolution; it will land at about 100 mb. I have some more work in mind, though,
so there isn??t a download quite yet... But here is a few screenshots:
Ovda Regio (zooming out):
Aphrodite Terra, with/without clouds:
Maxwell Montes directly north:
Night lights:
-rthorvald
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Smacklug wrote:is this supposed to be a terraformed Venus or one in Earth's position?
This is a Venus in Venus??position. It is a fantasy on how it would look if it
was extensively terraformed. The maps were painted from various radar
imagery, using samples of the 16k bluemarble for texturing. Sea levels and
bump mapping are based on Maxim??s topological maps.
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Yes, the fjords... He won an award for those, didn??t he... Maybe i *should* sign minebuggs_moran wrote:Heh, I think I saws fjords in there Runar . Did you sign them?
I??m not sure there will be any need for that, as i am going to structure it into both a lower-res and higher-res VT... But i??ll keep it in mind.PlutonianEmpire wrote:is there gonna be a medres (2k) version of it?
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Hello rthorvald,
I have enjoyed looking at the fine terraforming you have performed on Venus. I am trying to confirm the accuracy of your pictures. How deep have you flooded that planet? When I flooded my 3D Venus model, it was 4000 meters deep, leaving 10,000 meters of mountain peaks above the floods. So my flood is not as deep as yours. In your last small picture, the left one in a group of 3 pictures, there is an image of Venus centered on 90 degrees East longitude. South is at top. I have prepared an image that can be compared with your image. I hope that independent confirmation is useful to you. This image has the same area and orientation as your picture.
You picture has very few islands. Is that because the flood is deeper, or is it for some other reason?
I have enjoyed looking at the fine terraforming you have performed on Venus. I am trying to confirm the accuracy of your pictures. How deep have you flooded that planet? When I flooded my 3D Venus model, it was 4000 meters deep, leaving 10,000 meters of mountain peaks above the floods. So my flood is not as deep as yours. In your last small picture, the left one in a group of 3 pictures, there is an image of Venus centered on 90 degrees East longitude. South is at top. I have prepared an image that can be compared with your image. I hope that independent confirmation is useful to you. This image has the same area and orientation as your picture.
You picture has very few islands. Is that because the flood is deeper, or is it for some other reason?
Your wish is my command line.
I thought about this when you presented your models on the forum earlier; i thought it would be very interesting to compare. Thank you for the pic!GlobeMaker wrote:So my flood is not as deep as yours. In your last small picture, the left one in a group of 3 pictures, there is an image of Venus centered on 90 degrees East longitude. South is at top. I have prepared an image that can be compared with your image.
As for the flooding level, yes, it is pretty high... I never measured it, i just made it high because else there would be an insane amount of tiny islands everywhere, and i wanted a "cleaner" model map. The shores are also pretty much drawn in freehand by eye - with images and topo maps for guides.
GlobeMaker wrote:You picture has very few islands. Is that because the flood is deeper, or is it for some other reason?
Deeper, and i deliberately removed most of the very small islands that still stuck out of the oceans; that much water would do a lot of erosion, that??s my excuse
... The version i am working on now will have an even higher water level (not much, though; about a millimeter in on an 8k original). This because i need to clean up the shorelines to implement the specular map properly.
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Hello rthrvald,
I want to offer my humble assistance to your Blue Venus work.
There are few people in the world today working on models of Venus,
so collaboration is rare. I know you do not need my help, but if you
want these offerings, just say the word. Here are some tasks I
can do which may be of service to you :
Produce images of a flooded Venus for every 45 degree view
around the equator. (8 Views). Each view will have coordinates
given for the central longitude.
Flood Venus at 4000 meters, 5000 meters.. any level you say.
6k, 7k, 8k, 9k, up to 12000 meters deep.
Provide images of the two poles at several flood levels.
I can make an oblate spheroid model so that the polar views
are flattened to any degree. For example, if the distance between
the North Pole and South Pole is only 100 miles, and the
equatorial diameter is 7900 miles, then the view of the North Polar
contiinent would be easy to trace by hand onto a flat map.
If you have a custom request for a Venus 3D model image in 2D,
then your wish is my command. During this economic recession
I have plenty of free time, as the galaxy is not rich enough at this
time to order many custom planets. I am only working on one
very special order : Earth Mark III. The mice would be furious if they
knew of my offer to you, but they do not follow events on this forum.
My name is not important.
I want to offer my humble assistance to your Blue Venus work.
There are few people in the world today working on models of Venus,
so collaboration is rare. I know you do not need my help, but if you
want these offerings, just say the word. Here are some tasks I
can do which may be of service to you :
Produce images of a flooded Venus for every 45 degree view
around the equator. (8 Views). Each view will have coordinates
given for the central longitude.
Flood Venus at 4000 meters, 5000 meters.. any level you say.
6k, 7k, 8k, 9k, up to 12000 meters deep.
Provide images of the two poles at several flood levels.
I can make an oblate spheroid model so that the polar views
are flattened to any degree. For example, if the distance between
the North Pole and South Pole is only 100 miles, and the
equatorial diameter is 7900 miles, then the view of the North Polar
contiinent would be easy to trace by hand onto a flat map.
If you have a custom request for a Venus 3D model image in 2D,
then your wish is my command. During this economic recession
I have plenty of free time, as the galaxy is not rich enough at this
time to order many custom planets. I am only working on one
very special order : Earth Mark III. The mice would be furious if they
knew of my offer to you, but they do not follow events on this forum.
My name is not important.
Your wish is my command line.
GlobeMaker wrote:I want to offer my humble assistance to your Blue Venus work
Well, thank you for the offer!
For now, it is a bit late to use any input from your model into my current map; it is more or less complete. I would have *loved* to build it from scratch with your model as a source, though; but this will have to wait... Designing it is weeks of work, and i don??t have that much free time at the moment... But it is something to keep in mind for later...
I am sure your model would be more exact than my map, as you are generating it with better data - i am painting by hand. But next time...
Thanks again,
-rthorvald
PS: still, it would be very interesting to see a few more images, if you have them readily available...
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I have new images of Venus that I did not announce in these forums.
THe North Pole of the Venus Globe 75x is featured at :
http://www.reliefglobe.com/venus_75x_6deg.html
The resolution is 6 data points per degree of lat/longitude.
The elevations were multiplied by 75.
To see more links to flooded and unflooded Venus see :
http://www.reliefglobe.com/venus.html
By looking at all 4 links on that page, you can look down on
the South Pole, North Pole, and the famous "textured terrain".
The data is combined from Magellan, Mariner, and Venera spacecrafts.
Your colored pictures of a terraformed Venus have been
delightful to look at, repeatedly.
Here is an acknowledgement of the Magellan data source :
The databases for the globes of Venus are from the Magellan Project of NASA. The spacecraft entered an orbit around Venus in 1990. This paragraph acknowledeges the Principal Investigator, Dr. Gordon H. Pettengill, the Astrological Branch of the United States Geological Survey, the Magellan Project, and the Planetary Data System. During 1991 the land height data was published with preparations by Peter G. Ford of the Center for Space Research at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. One document is called "Altimetric and Radiometric Global Data Records".
Dr. Gordon H. Pettengill first came into prominence for his discovery in 1965 of the unexpected 2/3 spin/orbital period resonance of the planet Mercury, using radar astronomical techniques, although his name is also closely linked to much of the development of radar astronomy since its early years in the late 1950's. Beginning with the first application of coherent earth-based radar to studies of the Moon in 1959, his observations have embraced Mercury, Venus, Mars, several asteroids and comets, the Galilean satellites of Jupiter and the rings of Saturn. He was the Principal Investigator for the Radar Mapper Experiment carried out on the Pioneer Venus Orbiter from 1978 through 1981, providing for the first time a comprehensive view of the global surface of Venus. Since then he has been the Principal (scientific radar) Investigator for the Magellan (Venus-radar-mapping) Mission that was launched in May, 1989, and has since mapped nearly the entire Venus surface at a resolution of a few hundred meters.
Dr. Pettengill received the B.S. in physics from MIT in 1948, and the Ph.D. in physics from U.C., Berkeley, in 1955. Since then he has been affiliated primarily with MIT, first with Lincoln Laboratory and then, from 1970 to 1995, as a Professor in the MIT Dept. of Earth, Atmosphere and Planetary Sciences (from 1984 to 1990, jointly with the MIT Physics Dept.). Leaves of absence enabled him to serve as Associate Director, 1963 - 1965, and as Director, 1968 - 1970, of the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico. From 1984 to 1990, he was Director of the MIT Center for Space Research. Prof. Pettengill retired from MIT in 1995, but has remained active in research since then, primarily with the Mars Orbital Laser Altimeter experiment aboard the Mars Global Surveyor, currently in orbit around that planet.
Dr. Pettengill is a member of both the American and National Academies of Science. In 1980 - 1981, he spent a sabbatical year at the University of Sydney (Australia) as a Guggenheim Foundation Fellow. During the fall of 1991, he was the Thomas Gold Lecturer at Cornell University. In 1994, he was awarded the Magellanic Premium of the American Philosophical Society, and in 1998 he received the Whitten Medal from the American Geophysical Society.
THe North Pole of the Venus Globe 75x is featured at :
http://www.reliefglobe.com/venus_75x_6deg.html
The resolution is 6 data points per degree of lat/longitude.
The elevations were multiplied by 75.
To see more links to flooded and unflooded Venus see :
http://www.reliefglobe.com/venus.html
By looking at all 4 links on that page, you can look down on
the South Pole, North Pole, and the famous "textured terrain".
The data is combined from Magellan, Mariner, and Venera spacecrafts.
Your colored pictures of a terraformed Venus have been
delightful to look at, repeatedly.
Here is an acknowledgement of the Magellan data source :
The databases for the globes of Venus are from the Magellan Project of NASA. The spacecraft entered an orbit around Venus in 1990. This paragraph acknowledeges the Principal Investigator, Dr. Gordon H. Pettengill, the Astrological Branch of the United States Geological Survey, the Magellan Project, and the Planetary Data System. During 1991 the land height data was published with preparations by Peter G. Ford of the Center for Space Research at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. One document is called "Altimetric and Radiometric Global Data Records".
Dr. Gordon H. Pettengill first came into prominence for his discovery in 1965 of the unexpected 2/3 spin/orbital period resonance of the planet Mercury, using radar astronomical techniques, although his name is also closely linked to much of the development of radar astronomy since its early years in the late 1950's. Beginning with the first application of coherent earth-based radar to studies of the Moon in 1959, his observations have embraced Mercury, Venus, Mars, several asteroids and comets, the Galilean satellites of Jupiter and the rings of Saturn. He was the Principal Investigator for the Radar Mapper Experiment carried out on the Pioneer Venus Orbiter from 1978 through 1981, providing for the first time a comprehensive view of the global surface of Venus. Since then he has been the Principal (scientific radar) Investigator for the Magellan (Venus-radar-mapping) Mission that was launched in May, 1989, and has since mapped nearly the entire Venus surface at a resolution of a few hundred meters.
Dr. Pettengill received the B.S. in physics from MIT in 1948, and the Ph.D. in physics from U.C., Berkeley, in 1955. Since then he has been affiliated primarily with MIT, first with Lincoln Laboratory and then, from 1970 to 1995, as a Professor in the MIT Dept. of Earth, Atmosphere and Planetary Sciences (from 1984 to 1990, jointly with the MIT Physics Dept.). Leaves of absence enabled him to serve as Associate Director, 1963 - 1965, and as Director, 1968 - 1970, of the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico. From 1984 to 1990, he was Director of the MIT Center for Space Research. Prof. Pettengill retired from MIT in 1995, but has remained active in research since then, primarily with the Mars Orbital Laser Altimeter experiment aboard the Mars Global Surveyor, currently in orbit around that planet.
Dr. Pettengill is a member of both the American and National Academies of Science. In 1980 - 1981, he spent a sabbatical year at the University of Sydney (Australia) as a Guggenheim Foundation Fellow. During the fall of 1991, he was the Thomas Gold Lecturer at Cornell University. In 1994, he was awarded the Magellanic Premium of the American Philosophical Society, and in 1998 he received the Whitten Medal from the American Geophysical Society.
Your wish is my command line.
Well, the maps are taking shape. Below are four more examples:
I am producing this with 1024x1024 png tiles for the hires folder, 512x512
jpg tiles for the medres folder, and 1k simple maps for the lores folder.
Now i would like an opinion from the community: is there any point in
distributing higher resolution than this? Would anyone really want to download 8k specular and bumpmaps? Or the 4k clouds?
These shots were taken with:
-an 8k surface map
- a 4k nightmap
- a 4k specular map
- a 4k bumpmap
- a 2k cloudmap
... All in png format.
Final previews:
Aphrodite Terra
Aphrodite Terra with cloud cover
Center: Maxwell Montes
Center: Maxwell Montes with cloud cover
-rthorvald
I am producing this with 1024x1024 png tiles for the hires folder, 512x512
jpg tiles for the medres folder, and 1k simple maps for the lores folder.
Now i would like an opinion from the community: is there any point in
distributing higher resolution than this? Would anyone really want to download 8k specular and bumpmaps? Or the 4k clouds?
These shots were taken with:
-an 8k surface map
- a 4k nightmap
- a 4k specular map
- a 4k bumpmap
- a 2k cloudmap
... All in png format.
Final previews:
Aphrodite Terra
Aphrodite Terra with cloud cover
Center: Maxwell Montes
Center: Maxwell Montes with cloud cover
-rthorvald
A green Venus, well then you migth be intrested in this novel by Mr S. M. Stirling.
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