X-20 Dynasoar?

[buggs_moran]

If you have 3ds max or know someone that does just import it and rotate it 180 degrees and re-export it over the original.3ds that should fix it maybe.
cmod ,sure anything you need to do your welcome to change, glad you liked it
I had fun making it.

all the best

JV

you can do that in Anim8or too... only prob is you might have to rotate the texture as well...

[Tanketai]

Instead of rotating the model, isn't it easier to change it's orientation, inside the .ssc file?

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"x20" "Sol/Earth"
        {
   Class "spacecraft"
   Mesh "x20.3ds"
   Radius 0.007                  #
   Beginning         2448007     #
   # Ending 2010?

   EllipticalOrbit {
   Period          0.06903
   SemiMajorAxis   6772
   Eccentricity    0.0012082
   Inclination      28.4675
   AscendingNode    61.0100
   ArgOfPericenter  30.0378
   MeanAnomaly     340.0836
   Epoch           2452028.18381755
   }

   Orientation [ 90 0 0 1 ]

   Albedo       0.10
       }


That one would make a space ship point towards the planet, flying on it's side... you'll have to test it to see which one of the values controls the axis you're trying to rotate the ship.

[Sitting Duck]

Wow, what a productive worker!
What year are you starting as the beginning for the spaceplane?

The first proposed manned flight that was to occur was scheduled for July 1, 1966.

Im sure this will be great!

[BrainDead]

That one would make a space ship point towards the planet, flying on it's side... you'll have to test it to see which one of the values controls the axis you're trying to rotate the ship.

Sorry...

This does indeed change the orientation of the Dynasoar, but it still flies
backwards on my machine. The only difference the orientation parameter
made was that it's also now laying on its side too.

[ScyBladeghost]

I could just remake and reorient this,but I did already submit it to the motherlode as it is . I'm not a programmer, the .ssc 'what I did was use the hubbles parameters with a few changes, if that clears up anything.

The model itself had challenges in itself being dark and reflective getting the polygons to at least behave reasonably, as for .ssc orientation I'm sure its not that diffucult to make a new one, at least it will give those interested a challenge in programming.

[Adirondack]

Ok I've uploaded it to the motherlode as well. hope it gets posted soon.

Okay. Please be patient!
I will try my best within the next 24 hrs.

Adirondack

[ScyBladeghost]

Hi , Bob I e-mailed a fixed orientation version to you, its the upload to motherlode I'm now wondering about, in the fixed version theres also a 0.0.0 oriented model as well that would have to be renamed so anyone that needs a perfect .ssc can build it for the new 3ds included, I will upload it to the motherlode as well. sorry for any screwups.

file will be x20 for celestia fixed.

[ScyBladeghost]

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Okay. Please be patient!
I will try my best within the next 24 hrs.

Adirondack[/quote]

I've uploaded a somewhat fixed version you may want to repackage it as nesscearry so there isn't 2 files that may confuse, check em out and do whatever you need to, sorry for any mixups ,thanks.

JV

[Sitting Duck]

If I want to set the date of appearence to lets say July 1, 1966, what value would i enter in the SSC, is there a converter between dates and the apparently random sequence of numbers such as "Beginning 2448007'?

[BrainDead]

Okay. Please be patient!
I will try my best within the next 24 hrs.

Ulrich,

Are you talking about getting it on the M/L or are you referring
to a fix for the SSC? Just curious. If I had a bit more time, I
could probably figure out what the SSC needs.
But, since you are obviously much talented with the
coordinates, orbital planes, etc... (Hint, hint )

By the way, ScyBladeghost, there was NO need for other models
and other orientations of the models. This problem still needs to
be addressed with an SSC file which describes the object's
orbital properties so that it does what we think it should do.

More models are just confusing the issue here... Sorry, just
my opinion.

It is a cool model though. Deserves to be viewed
correctly.

Thanks.

[buggs_moran]

could someone post a screenshot if they have time?

[ScyBladeghost]

Dear BDBob, if you were to view the original setup in max you would would see the model as an upside down dart sticking in the ground at an angle, the fixed model uses the original coordinates in the first .ssc that it would fly properly, the models 3ds coordinated I adjusted. if you were to load it into anim8tor and try to rotate the model it would get all screwed up, (I tried it to see what would happen) so thats why I thought I'd correct it somewhat by making also available the proper model to make a proper .ssc but to make a correct .ssc with proper coordinates it would be advisable to use the new 0.0.0 model so that everything works correctly.

for the time being the new x20 file replacement file just makes the orbiter fly somewhat more correctly using current .ssc parameters. I'm just a modeler not a scientist, just trying to help. I've submitted all the files to adirondack so maybe he can correct what needs done before it gets uploaded to the motherlode. for everyone.

anyhow you do have everything you may need for the Dynasoar to fly again one way or another. best Luck with it.

[BrainDead]

I'm just a modeler not a scientist, just trying to help. I've submitted all the files to adirondack so maybe he can correct what needs done before it gets uploaded to the motherlode. for everyone.

Sorry John, I'm the very last person in the world who knows anything about
science. <Hee, hee, cough> Unfortunately though, I do have a love
for it. <shrug>

Ulrich is very good at these kinds of things, but I will have a look at it when I
get a bit more time. I can fix it, but it will take me about a week to
figure it out. There really are others here who could do it in two minutes.
<shrug again>

I do appreciate the model though.

[ScyBladeghost]

n/p enjoy when you attempt re-entry and land the craft one day let me know. lol

Have fun , talk to ya later on,
cheerios'

JV

[Adirondack]

I've uploaded a somewhat fixed version you may want to repackage it as nesscearry so there isn't 2 files that may confuse, check em out and do whatever you need to, sorry for any mixups ,thanks.
JV

Johnny,

I must say: What a messy folder-structure in your ZIP! Hm, hm.
Please make sure to pack your ZIP-files properly in the future. I'm sure, all users (especially all newbies) will be thankful. Otherwise Celestia will not show your beautiful models without moving the files to correct folders manually.

I have re-packaged the folders, sub-folders and files and wrote an install information.

Download the new package here:

http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/show_addon_details.php?addon_id=860


Adirondack

[Sitting Duck]

Russia better watch out now! The X-20 could deliver a nuclear load to anywhere on the planet's surface! (nice astronaut!!!)

[Adirondack]

Are you talking about getting it on the M/L or are you referring to a fix for the SSC?

Bob,
I was talking about getting it on the CML.
ScyBladeghost's new oriented model now flies sidewards...
So what? In space there is no up and down, left or right...
Space Shuttle also doesn't always fly with its nose in the direction of its flight...

Adirondack

[BrainDead]

Bob,
I was talking about getting it on the CML.
ScyBladeghost's new oriented model now flies sidewards...
So what? In space there is no up and down, left or right...
Space Shuttle also doesn't always fly with its nose in the direction of its flight...

Okay, thanks my friend. I realize that, but there's something unnerving
about flying backwards, especially if you're in re-entry mode.

By the way, my space shuttle flies with it's nose pointed in the direction
it's travelling. Hmm... Come to think of it, so does my copy of the 2001
ship. Maybe I can figure out what I did there.

Thanks.

[Adirondack]

Okay, thanks my friend. I realize that, but there's something unnerving about flying backwards, especially if you're in re-entry mode.

<ROFL> Yeah, that's right. It's a good way to destroy your ship...
So we should take a closer look to the .ssc (in order to approach Earth safely)?