New Celestia-1.4.0pre-FT1.1 Version for Download

[Boux]

The galaxy rendering is gorgeous.
I could not resist the temptation of making a screenshot (with some quick and dirty Photoshop job on it).
Antialiasing does not seem to work on this laptop and the resolution is low, hence the jaggies.
This is the Kerchan ship in full acceleration phase to reach warp speed, heading for M31 and passing by a binary star system

http://jmmi.club.fr/celestia/warp_1024.png

[Toti]

Hi all,

IIRC there's a bug-like behaviour in gcc (I don't know the exact version) that throws the "too few template-parameter-lists" error message even when the code is perfectly in line with the Standard. Certainly doesn't happen with my 3.3.4 version (nor with Fridger's)
There appears to be a really ugly workaround. I'll search the details and post them, but probably the best solution would be to switch to a bug-free version of the compiler.

Steven:
Which gcc version does XCode 2.1 use? Is it 1.4.0 ?

[selden]

Celestia v1.4.0 FT1.1:
Startup screen with Earth in view : 47 fps
Go to Beta Ari B : 64 fps
Go to Sol : 104 fps
Go to Saturn : 71 fps

System:
1GB 3.4GHz P4-550, WinXP Pro SP2
128MB GF 6600 GT, ForceWare v77.77

[selden]

A bug:

When a Galaxy is selected, when Y is typed, "Sync Orbit" flashes on the screen but Sync Orbit doesn't happen. The "view mode" stays at "Follow".

[Toti]

Selden,

I think I know where the problem is. I'll get it fixed tonight.

[t00fri]

Selden,

I think I know where the problem is. I'll get it fixed tonight.

We should also fix those other broken key-shortcuts under Windows (for which we are not responsible):
E.g.

CTRL+a

CTRL+a is supposed to toggle the atmospheres on|off while 'a' adjusts the observer speed. CTRL+a does BOTH under windows: each hit toggles the atmosphere state and increases the speed by some value...


Fortunately, under Linux-KDE this is OK.

Bye Fridger

[danielj]

I??m anxious.No more news of the 1.2 version was released.When will be ready?

OK, a few fps figures as requested:
Startup screen with Earth in view : 27 fps
Go to Beta Ari B : 63 fps
Go to Sol : 74 fps
Go to Saturn : 36 fps
This on Dell D610 laptop : Intel Centrino 1.6 GHz, 512 Mo ram, Intel mobile PCIE graphic chip.
Three versions of Celestia are living happily in parallel on this laptop.

Looking very good, Boux.

that's how things appear on my Dell C610 (PIII 1 GHz), just slower...


Bye Fridger

[t00fri]

I??m anxious.No more news of the 1.2 version was released.When will be ready?

OK, a few fps figures as requested:
Startup screen with Earth in view : 27 fps
Go to Beta Ari B : 63 fps
Go to Sol : 74 fps
Go to Saturn : 36 fps
This on Dell D610 laptop : Intel Centrino 1.6 GHz, 512 Mo ram, Intel mobile PCIE graphic chip.
Three versions of Celestia are living happily in parallel on this laptop.

Looking very good, Boux.

that's how things appear on my Dell C610 (PIII 1 GHz), just slower...


Bye Fridger

What?

We released the FT1.1 version yesterday night and all you are interested in is the FT1.2? If we then release FT1.2 one day, you will want to know when FT2.0 appears...Come on.

Specially for YOU I underwent the effort and made a complete installer Version of FT1.1 ... , since you were apparently incapable to install FT1 correctly. And now you appear NOT interested in FT1.1!

How can you expect a date for the next release? That will depend on the spare time we shall have available and on other unpredictable things as well.

[hank]

F & T... will I need any other libraries? Or will the source code have everything I need?

Hank... do I "clean" it? A deployment build?

Steven,

You should have everything you need. It never hurts to do a clean build if you're having problems. A deployment build will create a disk image (Celestia.dmg) to install from, located in 'celestia-1.4.0pre-FT1.1/macosx/build'.

Hank... are all your symbols EXACTLY right? Did you really mean:

<<insert ;// at the beginning of line 74.>>

In other words, are you saying to insert a... ;//
Or to insert a... // (without the ;)

I've tried it both ways... whichever it is supposed to be, neither actually works. Both give the same error...

I'm pretty sure I followed the instructions to the letter. Compiling on 2.1 on 10.4. Anyone out there able to make that configuration work?

Thanks,
S

I think I got all the symbols right. In particular, you should include the semicolon before the two slashes. The error you're getting is evidently due to the new compiler.

- Hank

[hank]

You won't find this view on Google. Or this.

- Hank

[t00fri]

You won't find this view on Google. Or this.

- Hank

Hey

in particular the second one is VERY cool! Despite my extensive tries with galaxies, I never generated that sort of configuration before...

Cheers,
Bye Fridger

[t00fri]

A bug:

When a Galaxy is selected, when Y is typed, "Sync Orbit" flashes on the screen but Sync Orbit doesn't happen. The "view mode" stays at "Follow".

I could reproduce the bug under Windows, but it's absent under Linux! So perhaps it's in line with the other key-shortcut breakings specific to Windows (CTRL+a,...).
Did anybody check whether its already in Celestia-CVS-Windows? Celestia-1.4.0pre6 is OK, I checked that.

Let's see what Toti finds out.

Bye Fridger

[ajtribick]

The "sync orbit" message appears in the latest 1.4.0 prerelease on Windows.

[hank]

A bug:

When a Galaxy is selected, when Y is typed, "Sync Orbit" flashes on the screen but Sync Orbit doesn't happen. The "view mode" stays at "Follow".

I see the same thing on Mac OS X. Since galaxies don't rotate (yet?), "Sync Orbit" isn't much different than "Follow", but I guess a bug is a bug.

- Hank

[selden]

Celestia v1.4.0 FT1.1:
Startup screen with Earth in view : 20 fps
Go to Beta Ari B : 30 fps
Go to Sol : 30 fps
Go to Saturn : 20 fps

System:
512MB 2.4GHz P4, WinXP Pro SP2
128MB FX 5200, ForceWare v66.81

[t00fri]

A bug:

When a Galaxy is selected, when Y is typed, "Sync Orbit" flashes on the screen but Sync Orbit doesn't happen. The "view mode" stays at "Follow".

I see the same thing on Mac OS X. Since galaxies don't rotate (yet?), "Sync Orbit" isn't much different than "Follow", but I guess a bug is a bug.

- Hank

No that's an important bug we must fix: for bodies of the solar system for example the difference between Sync Orbit and Follow is most essential.

Bye Fridger

[hank]

No that's an important bug we must fix: for bodies of the solar system for example the difference between Sync Orbit and Follow is most essential.

Bye Fridger

Right, but Sync Orbit works for planets. The bug is that it doesn't work for galaxies. I don't think this is a new bug. I'm not sure Sync Orbit has ever worked for galaxies.

- Hank

[selden]

Sync orbit (Y) does work for SSC objects. It's just for Galaxies that it doesn't change from Follow to Sync.

[t00fri]

No that's an important bug we must fix: for bodies of the solar system for example the difference between Sync Orbit and Follow is most essential.

Bye Fridger

Right, but Sync Orbit works for planets. The bug is that it doesn't work for galaxies. I don't think this is a new bug. I'm not sure Sync Orbit has ever worked for galaxies.

- Hank

Correct,

it only doesn't work for galaxies (in Windows and Linux, in fact). So it's not such a bad bug , but we shall fix it anyway...

Bye Fridger

[hank]

In 'observer.cpp':

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void Observer::geosynchronousFollow(const Selection& selection)
{
    if (selection.body() != NULL ||
        selection.location() != NULL ||
        selection.star() != NULL)
    {
        setFrame(FrameOfReference(astro::Geographic, selection));
    }
}

Hmm... could something about deepsky objects be missing here?

Something like:

Code: Select all

       selection.deepsky() != NULL ||


perhaps?

At least that seems to do the trick on Mac OS X.

- Hank