New Shuttle...

Post #1by **ElChristou** » 14.05.2005, 01:07

Hello everybody,

Ok, before the MO and before ending the SSO, I will work a while on a new shuttle...

Just for info, here the "workshop", where we can see in white the actual model (a bit fragmented), and in color the beginning of the new one (5% over).
We can see also the outlines (profiles) I used to re-create the model...
This is one of... no, THE best way to create fuselage.

Tip for 3D creators: a good 3D soft must handle Gordon and Coon surfaces... those are really usefull and powerfull tools.

Bye

Beowulf01 · Post #2by **Beowulf01** » 14.05.2005, 02:09

what the Frell is Gordon and Coon surfaces?

bh · Post #3by bh » 14.05.2005, 12:33

ElChristou...good luck with this.

regards...bh.

Post #4by **ElChristou** » 14.05.2005, 12:53

Beowulf01 wrote:what the Frell is Gordon and Coon surfaces?

First I won't enter in a mathematic description, I'm not enough skilled at this level...

The Coon surface work (in my 3D soft with 3 profiles - 2 on x, 1 on y)
With the Gordon you are not limited with the number of profiles... much more interesting :wink:

So here some example to understand the benefit of those tools:

Each of those example are done in 0.1s... the third is not a Gordon surface, just a double extrusion... also a "must have" tool...

All good soft must handle extrusion from face:

With those tools, all is possible with great facility, so if your soft don't have those possibility, better look for another one...

Bye

Post #5by **ElChristou** » 15.05.2005, 21:44

Hi,

25% over...

**In the red circle**: someone can explain me with the American flag is inverted on one side of the shuttle?

Bye

Post #6by **selden** » 16.05.2005, 11:27

It's not inverted. It's showing the other side of the flag.

Remember that the U.S. flag is attached to a flagpole so that the stars are close to the pole.
The flag is painted on the shuttle as if the wind were blowing it due to the flight. See, for example,
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/mis ... C-1340.jpg
which shows one side of the Endeavour and
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/mis ... C-1109.jpg
which shows the other side of one of the others.

Post #7by **ElChristou** » 16.05.2005, 12:26

Tx Selden.

bh · Post #8by bh » 16.05.2005, 22:40

Are you planning to add textures to the model? If so how? Looking neat so far...

regards...bh.

Post #9by **ElChristou** » 17.05.2005, 00:46

bh wrote:Are you planning to add textures to the model? If so how? Looking neat so far...

Yes, for sure... how?? well as always, mapping some pictures on the differents parts of the model... I will try to do new accurate textures...

Bye

jgrillo2002 · Post #10by **jgrillo2002** » 17.05.2005, 02:35

what 3d program is that on the screenshots?

Post #11by **ElChristou** » 17.05.2005, 19:34

jgrillo2002 wrote:what 3d program is that on the screenshots?

Amapi Pro 7.5... also available on Windows a think.

Bye

Post #12by **ElChristou** » 17.05.2005, 19:47

Hi,

Some rendering test in Celestia... 65% over...

For info, while I was playing within Celestia, I met this bug when the model enter the night side of the planet... funny...

Bye

bh · Post #13by bh » 17.05.2005, 22:44

Don't know about the bug you're having...but looking very nice!

regards...bh.

Beowulf01 · Post #14by **Beowulf01** » 18.05.2005, 02:45

I feel so humbled...
Very nice work.

looking forward to this addon.

Are you planing on doing the whole stack?

Post #15by **ElChristou** » 18.05.2005, 03:10

Beowulf01 wrote:I feel so humbled...

Don't have to... With time and good tools it's not so hard... (also a bit of experience help :wink:

)

Are you planing on doing the whole stack?

Opps

Sorry I don't understand your question... (my english

) my dictionary give me strange translation for "stack"...

Well for tonight, here the last advance... more and more details

(Note there is no textures yet)

Bye

Cham · Post #16by **Cham** » 18.05.2005, 03:28

with that level of details, I don't think it needs any textures. :-)

Maybe just some dirt here and there.

Beowulf01 · Post #17by **Beowulf01** » 18.05.2005, 10:59

In NASA terms "stack" is the whole launch unit. Boosters, tank and shuttle...

do you plan to do them?

Post #18by **ElChristou** » 18.05.2005, 11:57

Beowulf01 wrote:In NASA terms "stack" is the whole launch unit. Boosters, tank and shuttle...

do you plan to do them?

Tx... Why not... The "stack" :wink:

seems to be not so complicated. I will have a closer look to the Nasa photos to see If I can find all necessary details.

Bye

Post #19by **ElChristou** » 18.05.2005, 12:02

Cham wrote:with that level of details, I don't think it needs any textures.

Maybe just some dirt here and there.

Yes, but I will do a test with textures created from the existing photo from Nasa, perhaps I can do a close to realistic model...

Bye

TERRIER · Post #20by **TERRIER** » 18.05.2005, 18:51

ElChristou wrote:
Cham wrote:with that level of details, I don't think it needs any textures.

Maybe just some dirt here and there.
Yes, but I will do a test with textures created from the existing photo from Nasa, perhaps I can do a close to realistic model...

Bye

Yes, I'd really like to see a "tile" effect if possible ?