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Dollan
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Post #21by Dollan » 05.02.2005, 03:41

Evil Dr Ganymede wrote:And now we have more unregistered poster spam, full of ??????s....


On my computer, it is showing, I believe, Chinese characters. If you don't have them loaded in your OS, you'd either see question marks or little open boxes.

So, curiously, this is a registered user, it is just that he's using different characters.

As to his content, I have no idea. I didn't see any description with the links, so I didn't click on them.

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Post #22by Dollan » 05.02.2005, 03:43

Hmm, I take that back, I was thinking of another poster that had the links.

I've never paid much attention before, but I didn't realize you could have a handle or name, and still be considered a guest....

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Post #23by Michael Kilderry » 05.02.2005, 05:33

Was that message with the boxes another porn spam? I nearly clicked on the post thread but then I thought against it because the possibility of it being another spam message crossed my mind. At first I was thinking that the thread title may have been trying to describe a weird bug in Celestia. :roll:

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Post #24by Evil Dr Ganymede » 05.02.2005, 05:45

Michael Kilderry wrote:Was that message with the boxes another porn spam? I nearly clicked on the post thread but then I thought against it because the possibility of it being another spam message crossed my mind. At first I was thinking that the thread title may have been trying to describe a weird bug in Celestia. :roll:

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dunno what it was, but it was in incomprehensible characters and very lengthy...

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Post #25by Brendan » 05.02.2005, 06:54

The email address in the ??? post is a .ru one so maybe they're Cyrillic characters.

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Post #26by Evil Dr Ganymede » 05.02.2005, 07:11

another spam post on development... :evil:

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Post #27by Michael Kilderry » 05.02.2005, 07:43

This is reaching epidemic proportions. :(

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Post #28by John Van Vliet » 05.02.2005, 10:33

hi as for spam (DIE DIE BAD BAD SPAM!!!!!!!!!!!)
how about switching over to geeklog with the fourm add-on and installing the spam-x plugin
and with forcing all to reg . to post , the spam is gone
so far geeklog is one of the best i have used

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Post #29by Spaceman Spiff » 05.02.2005, 10:52

Dollan wrote:And really, how much spam has hit this place since it opened? I think we're talking about a really low ratio, here. Certainly not enough to panic over.

Dollan, you corrected on what you said about spammers registering (they haven't, folks!), but sorry to say I disagree with you about the level of spam not being a problem in the near future.

Even since last night, we have had 3 more such posts. I suspect someone did 'out of curiosity' follow the link, and that has told the purveyor of questionable mechandise that this forum is alive with readers. We could expect posts in 10's soon, 100's next month. Then it will be very difficult to find any serious Celestia post. I speak from the experiences of my less net-savvy friends who have a spam to mail ratio above 100 in their private e-mail inboxes!

I think Michael Kilderry has made the two good reasons why we would benefit from no-guest-postings:
1. The 'forgot-to-log-in'/'double cookie' problem is solved.
2. Then, you will be able to edit all your previous postings for bloopers.

For people who want to change their name from time to time, no problems there: all users have a unique join-number. Spammers can be blocked through that if they keep changing names.

Michael Kilderry wrote:I nearly clicked on the post thread but then I thought against it because the possibility of it being another spam message crossed my mind.


As I said in a separate post, following the link to download the web pages advertised will alert that web site that the spam is working. So far, just viewing the post on the Celestia forum will not alert them. Michael, you do not (yet) need to fear that viewing such a post has done harm, just don't follow their links!

However, general piece of web advice: a way that spammers can know that a (unidentified) Celestia user did view the post is if the spammer includes a link to an image within their post. They also include a track ID within the url to that image. When you view the post, your browser will request that image from the spammer's server with the track ID. The image can be a very tiny 1 by 1 pixel black square, you don't necessarily see it.

I checked the HTML source of a couple of spams and it looks like they're not doing that yet.

They could soon post explicit pictures.

I get round this problem by setting my Firefox browser so that it loads images from the same site as I browse. I can view off-page images from a web page I trust by changing the setting and reloading the page.

Spiff.

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Post #30by Michael Kilderry » 05.02.2005, 10:52

I think we should keep this forum with phpbb (and not geeklog), as that's the one most people here would be familar with.

I'm still going to be weary of spam threads (and I advise everyone else to) since as Spiff said, there could be explicit images. :(

Has Chris even posted in awhile? I haven't seen any posts by him recently and that might mean he hasn't yet noticed this new problem. To think a few weeks ago people were getting worried about fictional addons taking over, now we've got this!

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Post #31by Sky Pilot » 05.02.2005, 14:18

What is Chris's username?
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Post #32by Spaceman Spiff » 05.02.2005, 14:26

Er... 'chris' :). You can check that on the memberlist (up top there), and it's right at the top of that.

But look, maybe Chris doesn't reply because he's away. Winter. Snow. Snowboarding. Hence why he doesn't 'react'.

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Post #33by t00fri » 05.02.2005, 15:02

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Er... 'chris' :). You can check that on the memberlist (up top there), and it's right at the top of that.

But look, maybe Chris doesn't reply because he's away. Winter. Snow. Snowboarding. Hence why he doesn't 'react'.

Spiff.


No, he was definitely logged into the forum several times yesterday night (UTC), many hours after I had written him another email about the matter.

Bye Fridger

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Post #34by Michael Kilderry » 06.02.2005, 02:21

So, he's back now.

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