Forums Suggestion and Discussion: Anti-Necromancing rules and Joey P

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Forums Suggestion and Discussion: Anti-Necromancing rules and Joey P

Post #1by Gurren Lagann » 23.11.2019, 14:10

Okay, I had clearly noticed that forum user Joey P is doing a long series of necromancing posts, and we should make a rule against necromancing.
First, lets talk about what necromancing is:
- Necromancy stands for reviving the dead, which translates to reviving topics that are a year old or more.

Now, for the story. Joey P - a 17-year-old from Vladivostok, Russia - has been necromancing posts since he first joined, in 2017, but his necromancing has become more frequent this month. In fact, it has been soo frequent that it has reached a point where this can no longer be accepted.

And because of the entire Joey P situation, i now suggest a anti-necromancing ruleset.
Here is the proposed ruleset, suggested by pedro_jg over on the discord server:
"Do not bump old topics (a.k.a. necromancing) if they didn't receive new replies for over a year [or whatever time period], unless:
1. You are the original poster of the topic;
2. You state clearly in your post its reason, showing why it wouldn't be better as a thread of its own"

I hope that this situation is solved as soon as possible, as this would not only make a protection against the revival of old topics from the 2000s/early 2010s, but it would also add a layer of protection against spam.
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Post #2by Lafuente_Astronomy » 23.11.2019, 14:11

I AGREE TO THIS. Though we must wait for the other mods and Alexell to give their agreement
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Post #3by FarGetaNik » 23.11.2019, 14:20

Something clearly has to be done as all recent posts are by Joey P recently. Although I would suggest loosing rule 1 a bit, I've found myself abandoning certain threads for years until working on the subject again, see Whole Earth Views

Although I might have been responsible for some necromancy myself I have to admit so take it as you want. Maybe make it either 2 years or have it be if you were involved into the original discussion (instead of just author). I guess depending on how you see Rule 2 this might not be an issue tho.

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Post #4by Lafuente_Astronomy » 23.11.2019, 14:24

FarGetaNik wrote:Something clearly has to be done as all recent posts are by Joey P recently. Although I would suggest loosing rule 1 a bit, I've found myself abandoning certain threads for years until working on the subject again, see Whole Earth Views

I dunno. Although rule 1 is reasonable enough, I mean, no one normally responds to a year-long post. But if you apply rule 2 to your latest post on Whole Earth Views, then it should be fine.
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Post #5by FarGetaNik » 23.11.2019, 14:25

Fair enough.

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Post #6by SevenSpheres » 23.11.2019, 18:14

Yeah, I think this is a good idea. I do try to be helpful when Joey P. asks a question on a very old thread, but it is definitely very annoying.

There is also this...
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Post #7by Art Blos » 27.11.2019, 09:39

"Necromancy" does not annoy me. But I am not against the new rules.
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Post #8by Joey P. » 27.11.2019, 20:44

OK, I'll stop. But why don't we just automatically protect old threads that haven't been answered over six month periods? The same goes with news articles on Wikinews.

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Of course, all of the necromancing posts I make are done in good faith; i.e. current discoveries and the status of objects.
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Post #9by Lafuente_Astronomy » 27.11.2019, 22:32

Joey P. wrote:OK, I'll stop. But why don't we just automatically protect old threads that haven't been answered over six month periods? The same goes with news articles on Wikinews.

Well, I think what we can do is that we wait for as you suggested, 6 months of no reply, and then we lock it down. That should prevent necromancy

Joey P. wrote:Of course, all of the necromancing posts I make are done in good faith; i.e. current discoveries and the status of objects.

I can tell. But it's preferable if you make a new post instead. Also, make sure it's related to the stuff in Celestia.
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Post #10by SevenSpheres » 27.11.2019, 22:38

Lafuente_Astronomy wrote:
Joey P. wrote:OK, I'll stop. But why don't we just automatically protect old threads that haven't been answered over six month periods? The same goes with news articles on Wikinews.

Well, I think what we can do is that we wait for as you suggested, 6 months of no reply, and then we lock it down. That should prevent necromancy

There's no need to lock all old threads; it would be better to implement the rule proposed in the OP.

Joey P. wrote:Of course, all of the necromancing posts I make are done in good faith; i.e. current discoveries and the status of objects.
Joey P. wrote:Sorry if I'm necromancing, but I'm just informing you that Gangnam Style is no longer the world's most viewed YouTube video... the new horrible song "Despacito" has 5 BILLION views and it's driving me crazy!
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Post #11by Gurren Lagann » 27.11.2019, 22:43

Joey P. wrote:Of course, all of the necromancing posts I make are done in good faith; i.e. current discoveries and the status of objects.

Uhh no. Not all of then are. One time, you necromanced a post only to say that there are better neutron star textures now. That's a big no-no. :fie:
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Post #12by Joey P. » 28.11.2019, 04:30

OK, now I know.
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Post #13by LukeCEL » 29.11.2019, 19:18

SevenSpheres wrote:There's no need to lock all old threads; it would be better to implement the rule proposed in the OP.

I agree. There are several threads that I want to revisit after I've taken a hiatus, like my Populating galaxies thread.

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Post #14by Joey P. » 20.02.2020, 02:06

SevenSpheres wrote:

There is also this...

I don't do that anymore; I was just super obsessed with Martha Speaks and was angry that Wikipedia wasn't putting much emphasis into it as they would South Park (which I hate), Danny Phantom, and The Fairly OddParents, due to its relatively low notability (because obviously Martha Speaks is a bad, overrated show and PBS Kids is only available in the USA). I hate Martha Speaks now and am no longer obsessed with it.

I was also influenced by another Wikipedia sockpuppeteer from 2007, "Simulation12", who also had the same motives as me. I made a video mocking Martha Speaks and obsessions here.
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