New Version?

[mknote]

I've looked around a little, and I haven't found a development thread for the next version of Celestia (which I assume will be 1.7.0). Is there any news of a possible release date or what's being worked on for the release?

[VikingTechJPL]

After a period of "the doldrums" so to speak in the development of Celestia itself, Fridger decided to work himself on a newer more scientifically-robust version called CelestiaSci. Two other developers (dirkpitt and ElChristou) have now joined him. You can find out more on this page on the CelestialMatters site:

http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=473#p8939

[John Van Vliet]

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[bh]

Don't hold your breath... since Chris left and the Fridge has branched off to drink beer dev has stalled.

[John Van Vliet]

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[PlutonianEmpire]

I am not surprised.

From what I've learned over the years about astrology (my third sky-related passion behind astronomy and weather), and knowing his deep fascination with Saturn, which represents restriction, rigidness, and of course, time, I am not surprised he runs things with an iron fist grip worse than a North Korean dictator (yes I'm exaggerating that last one ). Heck, his username says it all! Pronounced as if spoken verbally, it sounds like "too free", depending on one's preference for pronunciation, implying he thinks the Celestia community should have no freedoms -- kinda like astrologers' perception that Saturn thinks us Earthlings should have no freedoms.


Yes, that was highly outlandish and stupid, but it was too funny to pass up.

[John Van Vliet]

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[PlutonianEmpire]

Yep, I can completely understand, as I realize I myself have not always been on my best behavior here, alongside others, as well as my similar desires for utmost scientific accuracy, manifesting in different forms, so yes, I do see where Fridger is coming from.

[John Van Vliet]

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[bh]

Yes... It was fun while it lasted... and continues on my machine. Never worked very well on my mac.

Kudos to all that stuck with it... I look forward to the next instalment of something...

[omega13a]

Well, if I recall, there is someone who has made an unofficial version 1.6.3 of Celestia that supports Class Y brown dwarfs.

[danielj]

But Celestia.Sci will not be a free version? Right?If so, we won?t have a new version of something that you don?t have to pay.The market is full of comercial simulators like Distant Suns. It will be a pity if we lose the only option available.

[t00fri]

But Celestia.Sci will not be a free version? Right?If so, we won?t have a new version of something that you don?t have to pay.The market is full of comercial simulators like Distant Suns. It will be a pity if we lose the only option available.

danielj,

of course, celestia.Sci will be free and open source according to the GNU GPLv.2 license! This is actually a prerequisite for using the Celestia code (copyrighted by the Celestia Development Team), in an independent derived software project.

Why don't you just take some minutes of your time and read this:

http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewt ... f=11&t=473

We are a bit behind schedule as to making the celestia.Sci development publicly available, since our important team member DW aka dirkpitt aka Da-Woon moved his whole household recently from Hong Kong to Strasbourg/France, in order to participate in the Space Studies Program (SSP) and Master of Science program at the International Space University(ISP) until September 2014. The SSP has attracted over 100 students and professionals from over 20 countries and many are already employees of space agencies such as NASA, ESA, DLR, JAXA, CNSA, ISRO, etc and others are working in companies such as Boeing, etc.

The good news is that --due to our new spacial proximity-- DW and his wife already visited me in Hamburg for a couple of days, and we had a very good time together...

If you want to know more about Dw's exciting experiences at Strasbourg, have a look at his thread here:
http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewt ... ?f=2&t=529

Fridger

[t00fri]

Sorry, but I visited this forum and it looks to me to be dying ...

Be assured, saboteurs like you and your well-known multiple identities will soon be isolated and then simply forgotten!

Fridger

PS: Here is just one example illustrating the maliciousness in your above post. You claim above that at CelestialMatters

..Software and utilities
....The nmtools - by t00fri and Robert Skuridin => oct 2007

is entirely incorrect! Oct 2007 is just the creation date of the file that hosts the links to the latest updates of my popular nmtools and F-TexTools. The latest updates are actually from Sep 2012 and work well with Win 7 (32 and 64bit).

[t00fri]

This is now the last minute I am vasting with you:

..Software and utilities
....The nmtools - by t00fri and Robert Skuridin => oct 2007

which is entirely incorrect! Oct 2007 is just the date of the file that hosts the links to the latest updates of my popular nmtools and F-TexTools. ).

As Saint Thomas, I believe what I read.

sci2.jpg

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This quotation of yours is perfectly correct but has a different meaning: It refers to the first release version of my nmtools which was announced in the CM WEB site in 2007 (the one you are quoting). The WEB site has not been updated recently, for various reasons, partly for lack of menpower... We were even discussing to delete the CM WEB site altogether in the course of our recent CM Forum (phpbb) update.

HOWEVER all nmtool and F-TexTool updates are listed in the CM Forum
http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewt ... p?f=6&t=70
and much further material is here:
http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewt ... p?f=6&t=44

And none information about release v0.0.1 and all others...

If you download the sources, you will find a detailed ChangeLog, a history about earlier versions
and plenty of credits to other professionals who have helped me in the course of development.
Man, I am anything BUT a beginner in this business..

The CM Forum is lively with many celestians posting there meanwhile (just have a look!).
http://forum.celestialmatters.org/index.php
Of course right now it's vacation time, so less activity for the moment...

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Notably, the CM forum is now the official celestia.Sci development site!
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http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewforum.php?f=11

Let me just risk a little prediction: in a short while you will be the last shatters.net user

In any case --given your superficial investigations-- it seems your above post referred to our old deserted WEB site and NOT to the current CM Forum where the action is.

But anyway this Forum is NOT for you.

Fridger

[t00fri]

That's what I described above: the listed date in the link listing corresponds to the initial opening of that file!!
If you had instead downloaded the updated files you could see the actual dates of the updates:

nmtools-2.0pre2.zip => Sep 9 2012
F-TexTools-2.0pre2.zip => Sep 9 2012

uncompress and read the files: README and ChangeLog
You then will learn about all previous updates. But the changes were minor since version 2.x.
Since version 2, the tools are simply speed optimized and thus work very well. Only slight adaptations to new OS versions were required in the meantime.

Fridger

[John Van Vliet]

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[t00fri]

Thanks John,

I couldn't have summarized the status better...

Fridger

PS: of course the CM Forum runs under statistics monitoring (statcounter.com). So I know precisely when we are doing particularly well.

Outside the vacation season we range at around
800 page loads/day and 150 unique visits/day

during vacation rather around
300 page loads/day and 100 unique visits/day

We keep the total number of CM users clear by
refusing registration to

-- spam bots
-- human spammers or commercial affiliations
-- SpaceTrek related
-- Trolls
-- multiple identities

[bh]

Oh dear... be quiet lodgy.