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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #21by Fenerit » 26.08.2010, 22:32

MiR wrote:.
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Once again; Pegasi/b (i mean: my Pegasi/b :lol: ) is only science fiction. With the emphasis of "fiction". More an artistic impression.
Hope you agree.
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Is not science fiction surely. :wink:
First, the main color of your Pegasi b is yellow, how in the classification of the planetary society:
http://www.planetary.org/exoplanets/list.php?exo=51+Pegasi+b thus, like you also a scientific entity, the planetary society make science fiction? (the logic question, because if one reply not, then neither you make science fiction)
Second, Pegasi b exist really, its presence is controllable through instrument by of a multitude of men (not with the amatorial telescopes, of course) and is not fictional as Bajor, Hoth or Trantor, which existences, together with that all is grant them (home of races) is not controllable. Thus, cognitively and epistemologically, all that is depicted of real planetary subject is always "artist conception" and not "science fiction". IMHO.
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #22by MiR » 27.08.2010, 12:08

@ John,
Yes, I have enabled the TeaTimer right now (and the AV-Guard runs permanently, too).
Toolbars - neither "yahoo" nor "google" nor any other - i haven't added.
well thanks again (the more so because we aren't in a Microsoft-Windows-support forum, but my system is smiling now like the very first day. :-) thanks therefore.)

@ Massimo,
You're right; Pegasi/b isn't science fiction. It's my wrong phraseology :oops:. I didn't mean the planet itself, but my own creation of its surface. ;-)
Fenerit wrote:
First, the main color of your Pegasi b is yellow, how in the classification of the planetary society:
http://www.planetary.org/exoplanets/list.php?exo=51+Pegasi+b
Good to know: Like John you are well informed. This makes me happy, because that's the reason why i am here at shatters.net :-). Four (and more) eyes see more than two...
Thanks very much

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #23by Fenerit » 27.08.2010, 13:39

MiR wrote:
Good to know: Like John you are well informed. This makes me happy, because that's the reason why i am here at shatters.net :-). Four (and more) eyes see more than two...
Thanks very much

Michael
...And if your are on the path to make them all, I rest of the opinion that the forementioned Gimp's plug-in could be set to account also for such parameter, by introducing before the hue slide, of the planetary class (the color). :wink:
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #24by MiR » 03.10.2010, 04:38

So, here's the new 51Pegasi/b map...
51pegasi_new.jpg

top & bottom:
51pegasi_polar.jpg

image
51pegasi_77.jpg

At the moment i'm still working on the night texture.

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #26by MiR » 03.10.2010, 21:58

it's your success at first, John :)

...without your help Pegasi/b would still looks like the images twenty-four postings above... :wink:

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #28by MiR » 04.10.2010, 07:10

John,
no matter. I received an empty mail and thought you were in a hurry ("on the fly" ;-))...
I feel exactly the same. somtimes there is so much to work.
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #29by MiR » 07.12.2010, 18:05

I've spent a long time (one or two hours a day) with the Mie parameters.
I've changed some values, started Celestia, changed values, started Celestia, and so on... :roll:

51pegasi_141.jpg

But now, while I'm looking at the result, I think it's better I delete the Mie part.
Because the whole planet is surrounded now with the evaporated hydrogen gas... :(

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #30by fungun » 07.12.2010, 21:45

I really like it :D
I think you did an excellent job.

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #31by Hungry4info » 08.12.2010, 04:16

MiR wrote:Because the whole planet is surrounded now with the evaporated hydrogen gas... :(
That's probably more realistic than all the hydrogen gas hovering over one side. Your pic shows quite nicely an extended exosphere of hydrogen at or near escape. The only thing that could be improved (as much as I can tell) would be seeing the planet's shadow in the extended atmosphere, but Celestia doesn't render this of course.
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #32by MiR » 09.12.2010, 23:10

Hi Tim,

Thanks, you're very kind :)

It's just my imagination of 51Pegasi/b; only an impression and - first of all - this should be an homage to Michel Mayor and Didier Queloz and their colleagues at the Observatoire de Gen?ve for the first discovery of an exoplanet. For me a "milestone" of mankind. Similar to "our" first steps on the surface of the moon (...and other important discoveries of course).

Let me say one word out of topic:
While I was rummaging (again) in older topics here at shatters.net I found your thread "Star Trek addons by fungun" and read - after you decided "...to not release the larger, more complex addons..." -
fungun wrote:Well after the kind words in emails and PM's, I decided to stay with the ML.
You probably must have a good and solid character. Not many people swing round and change their minds after they made such a decision. :)

Already elsewhere I wrote and I may repeat myself: I am not an enthusiast in SF but I like the Star Trek series because these movies are transporting a good message of humanity. And that's not an unimportant thing :idea: :wink:

So, you're doing a great job here :D

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #33by MiR » 09.12.2010, 23:31

Hungry4info wrote:The only thing that could be improved (as much as I can tell) would be seeing the planet's shadow in the extended atmosphere, but Celestia doesn't render this of course.
Yes, this is the accurate description of my problem which I have if I look at the 51Pegasi/b picture above. :wink:

Hungry4info wrote:That's probably more realistic than all the hydrogen gas hovering over one side. Your pic shows quite nicely an extended exosphere of hydrogen at or near escape.
Thanks for your comment, Hungry4info; I know you are well versed in "exoplanetary" things. :)

This gives me the courage to load up my 51Pegasi/b add-on on CML...
(at first I have to finish the night texture though)

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #34by Fenerit » 10.12.2010, 00:52

MiR wrote:It's just my imagination of 51Pegasi/b; only an impression and - first of all - this should be an homage to Michel Mayor and Didier Queloz and their colleagues at the Observatoire de Gen?ve for the first discovery of an exoplanet. For me a "milestone" of mankind. Similar to "our" first steps on the surface of the moon (...and other important discoveries of course).

Accordingly with Giordano Bruno, an heretic philosopher burned alive by the Church in Rome (1600 a.C)., there is an "infinity of worlds" (mean: planetary systems). Thus, fortunately, these men are still alive; so one could rise the issue on what is the "milestone". :wink: (tipical question in sociology of science).

MiR wrote:
Hungry4info wrote:The only thing that could be improved (as much as I can tell) would be seeing the planet's shadow in the extended atmosphere, but Celestia doesn't render this of course.
Yes, this is the accurate description of my problem which I have if I look at the 51Pegasi/b picture above. :wink:

Hungry4info wrote:That's probably more realistic than all the hydrogen gas hovering over one side. Your pic shows quite nicely an extended exosphere of hydrogen at or near escape.
Thanks for your comment, Hungry4info; I know you are well versed in "exoplanetary" things. :)

This gives me the courage to load up my 51Pegasi/b add-on on CML...
(at first I have to finish the night texture though)

Mind the propriety of an heat transported by convective motions: the backside could be more warm of the frontside...
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #35by Hungry4info » 10.12.2010, 00:59

MiR wrote:... this should be an homage to Michel Mayor and Didier Queloz and their colleagues at the Observatoire de Gen?ve for the first discovery of an exoplanet. For me a "milestone" of mankind. Similar to "our" first steps on the surface of the moon.

Actually, A. Wolszczan published the first discovery of an extrasolar planet three years before Mayor and Queloz reported the existence of 51 Peg b.
A planetary system around the millisecond pulsar PSR1257+12 (1992)

Surprisingly, the planetary system around PSR B1257+12 received a lack of attention and excitement, and even now gets consistently overlooked in claims of "the lowest mass exoplanet ever!"
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #36by MiR » 10.12.2010, 22:27

Fenerit wrote:Thus, fortunately, these men are still alive; so one could rise the issue on what is the "milestone".


:?: I have written "a milestone of mankind for me"...
However, I really do not know what you mean with this comment (maybe it is reasoned in my english... :oops: ) :?:

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #37by MiR » 10.12.2010, 22:47

Hungry4info wrote:Actually, A. Wolszczan published the first discovery of an extrasolar planet three years before Mayor and Queloz reported the existence of 51 Peg b.
A planetary system around the millisecond pulsar PSR1257+12 (1992)

Surprisingly, the planetary system around PSR B1257+12 received a lack of attention and excitement, and even now gets consistently overlooked in claims of "the lowest mass exoplanet ever!"

Oh yes, our world is a slapstick comedy sometimes. :roll:
Of course you're right; I should write: 51 Pegasi/b is the first discovered extrasolar planet orbiting a sun-like star!
Thanks, for this correction!
(Well, I'd like to underline this sentence (from above) now: You are very well versed in "exoplanetary" things. :)

Thanks again
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #38by Fenerit » 10.12.2010, 22:55

MiR wrote:
Fenerit wrote:Thus, fortunately, these men are still alive; so one could rise the issue on what is the "milestone".


:?: I have written "a milestone of mankind for me"...
However, I really do not know what you mean with this comment (maybe it is reasoned in my english... :oops: ) :?:

Michael

Never mind. Of course the "milestone" is for you (and me) their findings in exoplanet. Nonetheless is also a "milestone" the fact that they haven't been put into the fire, how was in the past, when such concerns were yet only theorized. :wink:
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #40by MiR » 11.12.2010, 00:03

john Van Vliet wrote:"milestone"
Normally i think of a Roman mile marker stone
or
X % of a project done by X date as stated in a contract .
Oops, a language problem (on my side);
I would say: A big step for mankind. (Like Armstrong's "giant leap...")

...and concerning to Giordano Bruno - as much as I know - it wasn't the church, but the governor of Rome... (Church had asked for leniency.)

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