Celestia User Guide

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Post #21by TheManFromUtopia » 27.01.2003, 10:32

brunetto_64 wrote:Hi to all!!
I can translate the guide in Italian
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I can help Bruno with it... 8)

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Post #22by TheManFromUtopia » 27.01.2003, 10:42

Ehm....sure I think the best format for a Celestia manual/handbook is PDF...no doubt. Even with HTML you should manage lots of questions such as character encoding/language, printing, fonts, browser support...8O

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Post #23by t00fri » 27.01.2003, 15:44

TheManFromUtopia wrote:Ehm....sure I think the best format for a Celestia manual/handbook is PDF...no doubt. Even with HTML you should manage lots of questions such as character encoding/language, printing, fonts, browser support...8O


I do not see the problem /at all/ and I have produced many HTML documents in my life even including complicated formulae! It's entirely straightforward and automatic:

Do your text in LaTeX, the only /perfect/ text system;-), and then pipe it into 'latex2html'. No work at all.

Got the wrong OS? Too bad, it's only your fault...;-)

Have a look for example in one of my manual pages:
http://www.desy.de/~t00fri/qcdins/texhtml/qiinit/

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Post #24by selden » 27.01.2003, 16:15

TeX and LaTeX are readily available for Windows. Unfortunately, although they're well known in academia, Adobe has stolen the mindset of the masses. :(
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Post #25by t00fri » 27.01.2003, 22:14

selden wrote:TeX and LaTeX are readily available for Windows. Unfortunately, although they're well known in academia, Adobe has stolen the mindset of the masses. :(


Right...

Sure enough, all science guys in your lab are also exclusively using LaTeX.

In fact, LateX can also output PDF instead of Postscript. Just a little reconfiguring.

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Post #26by TheManFromUtopia » 28.01.2003, 00:12

t00fri wrote:
selden wrote:TeX and LaTeX are readily available for Windows. Unfortunately, although they're well known in academia, Adobe has stolen the mindset of the masses. :(

Right...

Sure enough, all science guys in your lab are also exclusively using LaTeX.

In fact, LateX can also output PDF instead of Postscript. Just a little reconfiguring.



Bye Fridger


Here I see a bit of confusion between the file format and its generator...PDF is a open and widely browser-supported format; it doesn't stick with Adobe Acrobat, LaTeX or whatever the app you use.
HTML doesn't well support math formulas without using MathML specification which is still a non-well-supported W3C standard.
I think the better approach is using LaTeX with PDF output...
Ehi t00fri...Do you think there is a right OS? Is this your idea of a open-minded IT world? :wink:
(Sorry for the OffPosting...I shut down... 8) )

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Post #27by billybob884 » 28.01.2003, 03:23

or, you could just post it in a few different file formats, one or two for each os and put them all on one webpage, giving the user the option to download anyone of them.
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Post #28by fsgregs » 28.01.2003, 03:46

HI everyone. I'm pleased to report that the User's Guide Part 1 is almost ready for forum review. Chris suggested that I add some screenshots for each of the Render options. That's been done and the file is on the way to Chris and Fridger for some final editing regarding MAC and Linux, then I assume they will post it here for you folks to examine before it is saved in a final format.

There is no problem saving it in multiple formats, but with over 25 graphical screenshots, it is almost 3 meg in size and is formatted so that the screenshots fit properly. If anyone knows how to convert an MS Word document to HTML and/or pdf without losing placement of formating, please volunteer.

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Post #29by brunetto_64 » 28.01.2003, 11:01

I'm wait ... :lol:
the better compressor for the files is zipzag.
do you know???
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Post #30by Christophe » 28.01.2003, 11:29

fsgregs wrote:There is no problem saving it in multiple formats, but with over 25 graphical screenshots, it is almost 3 meg in size and is formatted so that the screenshots fit properly. If anyone knows how to convert an MS Word document to HTML and/or pdf without losing placement of formating, please volunteer.


To convert an MS Word document to PDF, you need to install a PS printer, then print to a file using that printer driver. The file you get is in PS, it can then be converted to PDF using ps2pdf.

Or you can use OpenOffice Writer and its Print to PDF feature, but formatting may (will probably) differ from what you get in MS Word.

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Post #31by TheManFromUtopia » 28.01.2003, 12:01

Waiting for this doc Sir...I'm ready to crush my head on it.

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Post #32by billybob884 » 28.01.2003, 22:44

utopia huh? where would that be?
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Post #33by t00fri » 28.01.2003, 23:00

billybob884 wrote:utopia huh? where would that be?


Somewhere between America and Iraq...

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Post #34by TheManFromUtopia » 29.01.2003, 12:40

t00fri wrote:
billybob884 wrote:utopia huh? where would that be?

Somewhere between America and Iraq...

Bye Fridger


Somewhere very very far from America and Iraq...

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Post #35by t00fri » 29.01.2003, 13:52

TheManFromUtopia wrote:
t00fri wrote:
billybob884 wrote:utopia huh? where would that be?

Somewhere between America and Iraq...

Bye Fridger

Somewhere very very far from America and Iraq...


Whenever I write something I usually inform myself beforehand;-): when flying from America to Iraq it is not such a bad idea to have a stopover in "bella Italia" for a good meal and some good wine...

Bye Fridger

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Post #36by Rassilon » 29.01.2003, 15:18

If I stop in Italy Im not leaving....specially Naples ;)
I'm trying to teach the cavemen how to play scrabble, its uphill work. The only word they know is Uhh and they dont know how to spell it!

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Post #37by TheManFromUtopia » 29.01.2003, 15:44

8O Utopia isn't placed between USA and Iraq...maybe Italy is... :cry: ...but...we're off topic, aren't we?

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Post #38by Rassilon » 29.01.2003, 19:50

Oh well the forum needs some flare :mrgreen:
I'm trying to teach the cavemen how to play scrabble, its uphill work. The only word they know is Uhh and they dont know how to spell it!

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Post #39by Guest » 29.01.2003, 21:20

flares...uhmm...i like'em... :D

Occasionally glancing up thorugh the rain,
wondering which of the buggers to blame
and watching the pigs on the wing.

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Post #40by TheManFromUtopia » 29.01.2003, 21:47

Ooops...I didn't logged in. Last post is mine.


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