Celestia 1.5.1rc2

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Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #1by chris » 10.04.2008, 01:20

Anyone want to test the Celestia 1.5.1 package for Windows?

http://www.celestiaproject.net/~claurel/celest ... 5.1rc2.exe

Again, 1.5.1 is just a bug fix and internationalization release. Some annoying bugs in 1.5.0 were fixed, and a great deal of work was done to improve the translations. The only difference between 1.5.1rc1 and 1.5.1rc2 are a README modification and a German translation update (thanks Ulrich!)

If things are ok with this package, I'll upload it to SourceForge as 1.5.1 final.

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #2by bdm » 10.04.2008, 02:15

Can you post a change list to this thread?

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #3by chris » 10.04.2008, 02:32

Here are the changes between 1.5.0 and 1.5.1:

* Added fonts for Russian, Chinese, and Japanese
* Updated translations
* Fixed date formatting for non-UTF8 locales
* Fixed crash for dates prior to JD -1.5 when local format is used
* Fixed star rendering for Macs with ATI graphics hardware (worked around
a driver bug in point sprite support.)
* Fixed star glare clipping bug
* Fixed bug that caused some stars to be drawn untextured
* Fixed faster/slower options in the Windows time menu to adjust time by
10x instead of 2x
* Fixed translation of time acronyms DST and STD
* Use localized versions of start script, guide, demo, license, and controls
file from locale directory
* Fixed Windows 98/ME input problem; most keyboard commands weren't working on
the OSes.
* Made Lua os functions available from celx scripts when access policy is "ask"

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #4by danielj » 10.04.2008, 03:47

Sorry to say that,but the atmospheric hole continues:

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #5by t00fri » 10.04.2008, 09:05

chris wrote:Here are the changes between 1.5.0 and 1.5.1:

* Added fonts for Russian, Chinese, and Japanese
* Updated translations
* Fixed date formatting for non-UTF8 locales
* Fixed crash for dates prior to JD -1.5 when local format is used
* Fixed star rendering for Macs with ATI graphics hardware (worked around
a driver bug in point sprite support.)
* Fixed star glare clipping bug
* Fixed bug that caused some stars to be drawn untextured
* Fixed faster/slower options in the Windows time menu to adjust time by
10x instead of 2x
* Fixed translation of time acronyms DST and STD
* Use localized versions of start script, guide, demo, license, and controls
file from locale directory
* Fixed Windows 98/ME input problem; most keyboard commands weren't working on
the OSes.
* Made Lua os functions available from celx scripts when access policy is "ask"

--Chris

... too late for (?)

* spice fix for celestia.pro under Linux
* fix to admit absolute directory notation in VT ImageDirectory

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #6by duds26 » 10.04.2008, 16:19

* Fixed star rendering for Macs with ATI graphics hardware (worked around
a driver bug in point sprite support.)

This bug was also on Windows, so best mention windows too.
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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #7by chris » 10.04.2008, 16:25

t00fri wrote:
chris wrote:Here are the changes between 1.5.0 and 1.5.1:

* Added fonts for Russian, Chinese, and Japanese
* Updated translations
* Fixed date formatting for non-UTF8 locales
* Fixed crash for dates prior to JD -1.5 when local format is used
* Fixed star rendering for Macs with ATI graphics hardware (worked around
a driver bug in point sprite support.)
* Fixed star glare clipping bug
* Fixed bug that caused some stars to be drawn untextured
* Fixed faster/slower options in the Windows time menu to adjust time by
10x instead of 2x
* Fixed translation of time acronyms DST and STD
* Use localized versions of start script, guide, demo, license, and controls
file from locale directory
* Fixed Windows 98/ME input problem; most keyboard commands weren't working on
the OSes.
* Made Lua os functions available from celx scripts when access policy is "ask"

--Chris

... too late for (?)

* spice fix for celestia.pro under Linux
* fix to admit absolute directory notation in VT ImageDirectory

F.

The change to celestia.pro isn't necessary, as there won't be a Qt4 release of 1.5.1. I think that the fix to allow absolute directories for virtual textures can wait until 1.6.0. The fixes that were integrated into 1.5.1 are all critical or high-visibility problems that lots of people had complained about. The absolute directory patch is useful, but affects only a very small minority of users.

--Chris

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #8by t00fri » 10.04.2008, 19:37

chris wrote:...
The absolute directory patch is useful, but affects only a very small minority of users.

--Chris

If you say so...

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #9by BobHegwood » 10.04.2008, 21:38

Just FYI, Chris...

Am using and have had NO problems on this machine with 1.5.1.
See signature for details.

Appreciate the program as always. :wink: This software is simply amazing
to me now that I have a machine that can use the goodies.

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #10by Adirondack » 10.04.2008, 21:44

Chris,

did you notice that all translated text files (from the SVN 1_5_1 trunk) are missing
in the locale folder of the rc1 and rc2 packages? Is this intended?

BTW and FYI: Only the text files were updated (not the .po) by Andy74, Guckytos and me.


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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #11by Guckytos » 12.04.2008, 07:50

Adirondack wrote:Chris,

did you notice that all translated text files (from the SVN 1_5_1 trunk) are missing
in the locale folder of the rc1 and rc2 packages? Is this intended?

BTW and FYI: Only the text files were updated (not the .po) by Andy74, Guckytos and me.


Adirondack

I can only concurr with Ulrich, that the translated text files are missing in the RC 2.

But the good news for me is that Celestia keystrokes work again on my Win98 computer, as good as before.

Thanks, Chris.

Regards,

Guckytos

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #12by duds26 » 12.04.2008, 10:22

Hurray the stars are back

thanks
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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #13by chris » 13.04.2008, 21:55

Guckytos wrote:
Adirondack wrote:Chris,

did you notice that all translated text files (from the SVN 1_5_1 trunk) are missing
in the locale folder of the rc1 and rc2 packages? Is this intended?

BTW and FYI: Only the text files were updated (not the .po) by Andy74, Guckytos and me.


Adirondack

I can only concurr with Ulrich, that the translated text files are missing in the RC 2.

But the good news for me is that Celestia keystrokes work again on my Win98 computer, as good as before.

Thanks, Chris.

Regards,

Guckytos

The omission of these files was not intentional. I've now uploaded rc3, which includes all the translated files as well as font files for languages with non-Latin character sets.

http://www.celestiaproject.net/~claurel/celest ... 5.1rc3.exe

The larger package size is a result of including new font files.

--Chris

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #14by Guckytos » 14.04.2008, 17:39

Hmmm,

Chris you should really think about providing Celestia 1.6.0 then with language packs, that are standardized and come either as an addin package or with an installer.
Otherwise the Celstia package will get too big and people end up with a lot of languages they don't need.
Basic Celestia distribution in English and everything else as language packs.

Ok, and since I am at it, it would be really good, if Celestia then had the feature of being able to switch between languages. So you could look up, what the expression/name of something is in english.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards,

Guckytos

Downloading RC3 now.

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #15by Adirondack » 14.04.2008, 22:06

Guckytos wrote:Otherwise the Celstia package will get too big and people end up with a lot of languages they don't need.
Well Guckytos, you are right, but 4 MB more or less... (the localization files are just ~2 MB or so)
Is this really significant, or worth the work to split the installation and to download more files?

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #16by selden » 15.04.2008, 00:51

The size of Celestia's Windows installer has almost doubled since v1.3.0. I think it needs to be pruned to the minimum. A 12MB base file plus an extension, for example, might be appropriate.
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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #17by Kolano » 15.04.2008, 01:19

Version 1.3.2 was released in 2004 and is 12,234,628 bytes. Version 1.5.1rc3 is 23,790,082 bytes just less than 2x as big. In computing terms a 2x increase over 4 years doesn't seem that significant. Even on dial-up, 24mb doesn't seem like an unreasonable size.
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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #18by BobHegwood » 15.04.2008, 01:41

If I may here...

The size of the base installation is a factor whether people realize it or not. Since I'm using a very fast cable connection, I really don't mind downloading large files. I would like to point out, though, that when people are downloading the latest releases of Celestia from Shatters Net, the forum's performance slows to a crawl. Hasn't anyone else noticed this?

I would opt for optional language pack downloads if it's all the same to others here. Anything you can do to reduce the size of the entire package would be better for the entire community would it not?

At the risk of getting yelled at again, I would also point out that the ML could also host these language packs.
Sorry, but I have only heard rumors of what happened while I was away, so I'm just offering the suggestion.

If this suggestion is offensive, please believe me, it is NOT meant to be.

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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #19by sanctus » 15.04.2008, 19:47

Does anyone know when 1.5.1 will be released :?: I mean the official release
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Re: Celestia 1.5.1rc2

Post #20by selden » 15.04.2008, 19:51

Any day now. There are always last minute glitches which throw a monkey wrench into the works....
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