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New Tour of Venus is Available

Post #1by Bob Hegwood » 13.06.2004, 08:06

Brain-Dead Bob again...

Just finished a Tour of Venus. Whew! Sorry this one took so long, but Venus
is a very strange place to tour. As usual, my tours can all be downloaded from my
website which is HERE.

Thanks, Bob
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Post #2by don » 13.06.2004, 18:00

Heeeeeey, not bad, for a brain-dead old geezer! 8O :lol:

Very nice tour script Bob. 8)

You are definately THE MASTER Celestia Tour Guide!

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Post #3by Bob Hegwood » 13.06.2004, 18:04

Mr. Gee,

You're just saying that 'cause you love me... :wink:

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Re: New Tour of Venus is Available

Post #4by danielj » 13.06.2004, 18:28

Sorry,but I didn?t find any tour of Venus in your homepage

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Post #5by don » 13.06.2004, 19:23

Try again danielj. There's a WHOLE PAGE full of tours on Bob's site.
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Post #6by don » 13.06.2004, 19:28

Bob Hegwood wrote:You're just saying that 'cause you love me... :wink:

No, I'm saying that because I Image your TOURS! :D
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Post #7by t00fri » 13.06.2004, 22:47

Bob,

I pointed out earlier already that I am a fan of your tours!

I had a look at the new 'script-only' Venus tour and really love it. You manage to mate a real lot of interesting information with a very entertaining narrative style.
It's "fun of discovery" at its best!

Just excellent.

Here are a few trivial suggestions: When I took the tour, many of your later features were in the total dark. Notably,

the Heng-o corona
the highest mountain on Venus
Cleopatra
and many features thereafter that you describe.

Bye Fridger

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Post #8by Bob Hegwood » 13.06.2004, 23:45

t00fri wrote:Here are a few trivial suggestions: When I took the tour, many of your later features were in the total dark. Notably,

the Heng-o corona
the highest mountain on Venus
Cleopatra
and many features thereafter that you describe.

Bye Fridger

Right you are sir... I'm at a loss as to what to do with this darkness problem
though. On *my* PC I've set the AmbientLightLevel value to 0.50 and it looks
fine. On other PC's though, this maybe not be adequate. I would suggest that
you simply change the AmbientLightLevel to a value which works better on your
machine. On mine, the daylight features are almost too bright to look at, while
the night-side features are a cool relief to strained eyeballs. <grin>

At any rate, thanks very much for the comments.

Take care, Bob
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Post #9by don » 14.06.2004, 01:55

Just a thought Bob ...

You can control the time in a script, so why not set the date and time to "sunlight" where ever you point out features? Does that make for a strange looking transition? Again, it's just a thought. :)
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Post #10by Bob Hegwood » 14.06.2004, 05:12

don wrote:Does that make for a strange looking transition? Again, it's just a thought. :)

You've *got* it, Don. In case, you hadn't noticed, I already had to turn the
Universe upside-down in order to get to the Sunlight side of the planet to begin
with - and then - I had to orbit it a few times to get to the features I wanted.
I just thought there were already enough strange things going on during this tour.
Interesting how much of an effect the retrograde rotation has on the display
isn't it. :wink:

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Post #11by don » 14.06.2004, 06:12

Bob Hegwood wrote:... I already had to turn the Universe upside-down ...
:lol: I thought in space, there was no sound and no up and down.

Just givin' you a hard time Bob. :lol:


Bob Hegwood wrote:Interesting how much of an effect the retrograde rotation has on the display isn't it. :wink:

How so?
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Post #12by Bob Hegwood » 14.06.2004, 16:15

don wrote:
Bob Hegwood wrote:Interesting how much of an effect the retrograde rotation has on the display isn't it. :wink:
How so?

You haven't noticed?

Okay. Start Celestia and let it finish the start.cel, then select Venus and press the
'G' key. You're now facing Venus. (Which side of Venus depends on where you
came from in the Solar System.) :wink: Now, run a gotolonglat command
(I don't care, go to *any* location) and watch what happens to the display.
The gyrations are caused by the planet's retrograde rotation.

In other words, if you do this for any other planet, you get a nice, straight path
to the coordinates you specify. If you do this for a planet with retrograde rotation,
the planet will be turned completely upside-down before the path takes you to
the specified coordinates. Interesting, yes? Then, since the days on Venus
are longer than its years, changing the time to display the daylight side features
even more interesting effects since you have to change the time by more than
a year usually.

Like I told you once, Venus is an *interesting* place. :lol:

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Post #13by t00fri » 14.06.2004, 18:27

don wrote:Heeeeeey, not bad, for a brain-dead old geezer! 8O :lol:

Very nice tour script Bob. 8)

You are definately THE MASTER Celestia Tour Guide!

Cheers,


While I knew in my guts what it roughly meant, being a "poor foreigner", I got curious after all :D

Merriam-Webster:
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One entry found for geezer.

Main Entry: gee·zer
Pronunciation: 'gE-z&r
Function: noun
Etymology: probably alteration of Scots guiser (one in disguise)

a queer, odd, or eccentric person -- used especially of elderly men



http://www.thefreedictionary.com
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geezer - a man who is (usually) old and/or eccentric

bloke = synonym

Examples from classic literature:
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Leastwise, thirty years ago, when I was in Honolulu, I met a man, an
old geezer, who claimed he'd been a harpooner on a
whaleship sunk by a whale off the coast of South America.

"Michael, Brother of Jerry" by London, Jack


If he ain't got a couple of knuckles broke in the left hand I'm a geezer.

"The Valley of the Moon" by London, Jack


Now I definitely feel "educated" about Mr. Bob Hegwood

Cheers &
Bye Fridger

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Post #14by granthutchison » 14.06.2004, 18:55

t00fri wrote:bloke = synonym
Tut. "Bloke" is far from being a synonym for "geezer". A "bloke" is guy who is very much *not* eccentric and possibly not old - one of the lads, a mate you can rely on. I'm guessing Bob might well be a bloke, too, but his geezerdom doesn't necessarily imply blokedom. :wink:

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Post #15by t00fri » 14.06.2004, 19:03

granthutchison wrote:
t00fri wrote:bloke = synonym
Tut. "Bloke" is far from being a synonym for "geezer". A "bloke" is guy who is very much *not* eccentric and possibly not old - one of the lads, a mate you can rely on. I'm guessing Bob might well be a bloke, too, but his geezerdom doesn't necessarily imply blokedom. :wink:

Grant


Tut. Tut.

I am innocent here. Straight quotation from the above source. I did not know the "synonym" either...

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Post #16by granthutchison » 14.06.2004, 19:29

t00fri wrote:I am innocent here. Straight quotation from the above source.
No wonder it's a free dictionary - no-one would buy it.

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Post #17by t00fri » 14.06.2004, 19:43

granthutchison wrote:
t00fri wrote:I am innocent here. Straight quotation from the above source.
No wonder it's a free dictionary - no-one would buy it.

Grant


:lol:

what a shame, Merriam Webster quoted it for 'geezer'.

My 1600 page Cassell's English-German; German-English Dictionary is even worse:

geezer = 'alter Tropf', Nooooooo, not Mr. Hegwood...
bloke = 'Bursche, Kerl', hmm

Bye Fridger

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Post #18by don » 14.06.2004, 22:56

Bob Hegwood wrote:You haven't noticed?

:lol: ... :lol: ... :lol: ... I did NOW, thanks to YOU! 8O

Amazing.

Hey Bob, what is YOUR definition of "old geezer"? Let's hear it from THE Old Geezer himself. :P
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Post #19by Bob Hegwood » 15.06.2004, 06:11

t00fri wrote:a queer, odd, or eccentric person -- used especially of elderly men
geezer - a man who is (usually) old and/or eccentric
bloke = synonym
Now I definitely feel "educated" about Mr. Bob Hegwood

Dr. Schrempp...

Nice try. As Don suggested, I'll give it to you in my own words:

I am chronologically old... Nothing new about that.

I am out-spoken. In case you hadn't noticed, I generally say *exactly*
what's on my mind, and "To Hell" with the consequences.

I am definitely NOT "queer." Ask any of the cute little teen-aged girls I lust after
all day. :wink:

If you mean "Odd" or eccentric rather than "queer" then I have to admit that I am
odd and eccentric.

I'm also grumpy... Comes from living over 50 years on a world which contains
too damned many stupid people on it. Lots of these stupid people are waaay
more intelligent than I am, but they're stupid just the same.

I'm (almost) physically-disabled. I've been shot three times, stabbed twice,
and I go to the hospital about every other week because my wife has found
me dead in bed again. This is because I have a violent case of diabetes, and the
intelligent, but STUPID doctors treating me can't see that my blood sugar does
what it WANTS to do... It does NOT do what they say it is SUPPOSED
to do.

So that's me... The living definition of a geezer. I wonder though, could we resume
the Venus Tour discussion now. Sheesh!

Take care, Bob :oops:

By the way, my website has a picture if that would help? One picture is worth a
thousand definitions. Just cllick on the "Geezer" link. <Hee, hee>
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