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Hey everyone. I stumbled on this site today and I think it's a pretty neat app, not incredibly useful, but fun none the less. It maps all the users that enter their data on a Google Map.

To check out this map, click below or paste url into browser
http://www.frappr.com/celestiausers

To add yourself to 'Celestia Users', click below or paste url into browser
http://www.frappr.com/celestiausers#addyourself

Well, a Celestia fan map? Why not..
for years, there is a map for the Orbiter community :
http://orbinauts.dansteph.com/
For Celestia, on the French forum we have speaking about another solution, BTW of Google Earth: users could provide their own .kml file, so their placement could be directly added on the Google Earth Globe (I planned to test a specific Celestia tag for that, but not really do a satisfying one)
I suppose that with the precise location listed by GE, it will be possible to convert each place into a celestia .ssc file, like the worlds-captilals one...
Jeam Tag http://jeam.tag.free.fr/GoogleEarthLinks/Jeam%20Tag.kml

Hey, funny, I'm in...

ElChristou wrote:Hey, funny, I'm in...

Hrm (in French, sorry) Cela ne semble fonctionner que pour les capitales ou les grandes villes hors du champs Anglo-saxon : ce n'est pas tr??s pratique. Une solution ?  la GE serait plus viable, lorsqu'une concentration de personne dans une m??me r?©gion risque de rendre la carte illisible. AMHA(IMHO) Jeam

There's a couple of fans no-ones mentioned....

Extract this into .../Celestia/ main:
http://www.sitesled.com/members/tentsfo ... 20Fans.zip

then click on this:
cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:ISS/2006-02-04T1 ... 5&lm=49280

EDIT: I forgot to mention this: Select menu item Render->Locations, and make sure "Other Features" and "Label Features" are both enabled.

and enjoy!

EDIT: Don't bother if you haven't got the ISS.

Chuft-Captain wrote:EDIT: Don't bother if you haven't got the ISS.

Crude ISS is a part of Celestia package, isn't it??. Nice locations. There's an ISS following in GE, IIRC, but I don't know if we can link a private location with it. So, a Celestian location would be a better system for numberous Extra-Terrestrial Celestians, of course

Jeam Tag wrote:

Chuft-Captain wrote:EDIT: Don't bother if you haven't got the ISS.

Crude ISS is a part of Celestia package, isn't it??. Nice locations. There's an ISS following in GE, IIRC, but I don't know if we can link a private location with it. So, a Celestian location would be a better system for numberous Extra-Terrestrial Celestians, of course

It would have to be filtered by importance I guess. (I can't help wondering how Celestia performance would be affected by 4000 odd fan locations). I think I read somewhere that locations don't put a great load on Celestia.

Jeam Tag wrote:

ElChristou wrote:Hey, funny, I'm in...

Hrm (in French, sorry) Cela ne semble fonctionner que pour les capitales ou les grandes villes hors du champs Anglo-saxon : ce n'est pas tr??s pratique. Une solution ?  la GE serait plus viable, lorsqu'une concentration de personne dans une m??me r?©gion risque de rendre la carte illisible. AMHA(IMHO) Jeam

Le probl??me de GE est qu'il n'est pas accessible ?  tous le monde
(par exemple sous osX c'est pour minimum 1.4.0)

Hrm (in French, sorry) Cela ne semble fonctionner que pour les capitales ou les grandes villes hors du champs Anglo-saxon : ce n'est pas tr??s pratique. Une solution ?  la GE serait plus viable, lorsqu'une concentration de personne dans une m??me r?©gion risque de rendre la carte illisible

No problem...

http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr wrote:The GE problem is that it is not accessible to all the Mad world (for example under osX it is for minimum 1.4.0)

Excusez mon ignorance mais que fait le moyen de la GE IIRC ?

ElChristou wrote:Le probl??me de GE est qu'il n'est pas accessible ?  tous le monde (par exemple sous osX c'est pour minimum 1.4.0)

Oops, sorry. Je ne me souvenais plus que ce foutu Google est surtout affili?© windows. Mais vu son projet grand public avec Google Earth, cela devrait s'?©tendre compl??tement aux autres plateformes, non??? Jeam, perplexe.

Oops, Sorry El Christou, I translated the wrong text in Babelfish, This is what you said:

That seems to function only for the capitals or the large cities out of the fields Anglo-Saxon: it is not very practical. A solution with GE would be more viable, when a concentration of anybody in the same area is likely to make the chart illegible

I neglected to say in my original post that you need to go to Render->Locations in the Menu, and make sure that "Other Features" and "Label Features" are both enabled.
J'ai n?©glig?© pour dire dans mon poteau original que vous devez aller rendre des endroits dans le menu, et vous assurez que d'"autres dispositifs" et "dispositifs d'?©tiquette" sont tous deux permiss.

Nice, this will allow a better understanding of Celestia users distribution.
Yust added me, too.
Bye

Andrea

Chuft-Captain wrote:[Excusez mon ignorance mais que fait le moyen de la GE IIRC ?

Hello, be careful of Babelfish, you don't find your proper words if you translate twice, in any language This is because, when my poor english speaking can't help me, I write in French
So: What I try to explain with the Google Earth example, is that you can provide a more exact location, with some search, zooming in -for the better covered cities, even onto your bloc, house, etc. (and this is usefull for guys -like me- who don't know how to edit there own lat/long references, to create a Celestia location: GE provides a good approx.
I speaking about this stuff, because of the other mapping systems like frappr seem to me very, very limited: I've added my tag (curious word!) on Paris, because i can't register my real location. No references out of English areas, Just capitals. And even on English areas, what about of this stuff if 2.001 Celestians tag on London or Seattle, etc.
That's a problem. The Orbiter Fans Map I quoted have now a little similar problem: Lisibility. So, In My Humble Opinion, a real zoom system (WorlWind, Keyhole/GoogleEarth... or Celestia!!!) is a more efficient way.
Jeam

I added my profile just now. This sounds fun.

-Sui

ANDREA wrote:Nice, this will allow a better understanding of Celestia users distribution.

Hello Andrea, don't you provide, sometimes ago a Google Earth location? Or just a GE pic, I don't remenber. But in this case, you can provide a GE or, more interesting, a Celestia location.
We can try to edit a Celestian community.kml (GE) or aCelestians_loc.ssc (Celestia)
Jeam

Jeam Tag wrote:

ANDREA wrote:Nice, this will allow a better understanding of Celestia users distribution.

Hello Andrea, don't you provide, sometimes ago a Google Earth location? Or just a GE pic, I don't remenber. But in this case, you can provide a GE or, more interesting, a Celestia location.
We can try to edit a Celestian community.kml (GE) or aCelestians_loc.ssc (Celestia)
Jeam

Hello Jeam, I just checked and the marker shows the exact position of my flat in Southern Rome, Italy.
Bye

Andrea

Bonjour, j'agis en tant qu'un produit de remplacement pour quelqu'un que vous savez
qui n'est pas dispos?© ?  r?©pondre aujourd'hui.
Vous demandiez environ Je ne me souvenais plus que ce foutu Google est surtout affili?© windows. . Vous dit plusieurs choses...
1 Mais vu son projet grand public avec Google Earth,
2 cela devrait s'?©tendre compl??tement aux autres plateformes, non??? Jeam, perplexe.

Je pourrais parler longuement au sujet de ces sujets, juste outre du
dessus de ma t??te, mais ?  la place, j'ai v?©rifi?© Alta Vista !
Voici a conclusion au sujet de votre sujet :
0 Apprenez donc que pour M6,
1 les seules oeuvres de l'esprit qui sont dignes d'??tre prot?©g?©es
2 par le droit de la propri?©t?© intellectuelle sont des "contenus".
3 Si vous avez de la chance, les images en font partie.
4 Or donc, si jamais cette plateforme vous permet
5 de donner libre cours ?  votre cr?©ativit?© en ne vous for?§ant pas absolument
6 ?  adopter un design parmi ceux propos?©s d'office (ce qui semble ??tre le cas),
7 sachez que vos cr?©ations au del?  des textes (et peut-??tre des images)
8 peuvent ??tre piqu?©es par n'importe quel autre blogueur de la plateforme,
9 n'importe quand, ad vitam aeternam, sans que vous puissiez vous y opposer
10 (encore que je laisse les sp?©cialistes juger de ce qui me para?®t ??tre une
11 clause assez os?©e et qui risque de donner lieu ?  des conflits entre membres
12 de la plateforme).
Dans la mesure o?? vous ??tes dernier la question dispara?®t :

"cela devrait s'?©tendre compl??tement aux autres plateformes, non??? Jeam, perplexe.",

Voici comment j'analyse cette issue :

compl??tement ? Je suis plus que compl??tement. En fait si compl??tement
?©taient la seule chose qui sera importante alors je juste
demandez ?  quelqu'un d'autre d'employer Alta Vista et d'attendre ici pour
les heures jusqu'?  quelqu'un m'indique quoi penser ?  "perplexe. plateformes,"
J'esp??re que des aides. Mecri !

Jeam Tag wrote:Hello, be careful of Babelfish, you don't find your proper words if you translate twice, in any language This is because, when my poor english speaking can't help me, I write in French

Yeah, I'm aware of Babelfish limitations (can be quite funny sometimes), however.... my french is worse than Babelfish's !!!
Your English is very good actually.

Jeam Tag wrote:So: What I try to explain with the Google Earth example, is that you can provide a more exact location, with some search, zooming in -for the better covered cities, even onto your bloc, house, etc. (and this is usefull for guys -like me- who don't know how to edit there own lat/long references, to create a Celestia location: GE provides a good approx.
I speaking about this stuff, because of the other mapping systems like frappr seem to me very, very limited: I've added my tag (curious word!) on Paris, because i can't register my real location. No references out of English areas, Just capitals. And even on English areas, what about of this stuff if 2.001 Celestians tag on London or Seattle, etc.

Name congestion would also be an issue for Celestia, if everyone in Paris for example gave the same Lat/Long without refining it down to the nearest arcsec. (And you'd probably have to zoom in very close on congested locations to resolve individual names).

Jeam Tag wrote:We can try to edit a Celestian community.kml (GE) or aCelestians_loc.ssc (Celestia)

I would consider editing and/or hosting a Celestians_loc.ssc on my website which would mean "quys who don't know how to edit there own lat/long references, to create a Celestia location" could just provide the lat/long and then the SSC would be updated periodically for download.

Chuft-Captain wrote:I would consider editing and/or hosting a Celestians_loc.ssc on my website which would mean "quys who don't know how to edit there own lat/long references, to create a Celestia location" could just provide the lat/long and then the SSC would be updated periodically for download.

With the Help of Google Earth, I can provide a location, like your 2 IIS 'nauts ones. My ancient testing, some years ago, to edit Fridger's Gazeeters to add my little town didn't have this precision.
Jeam

But another Type would be create: not 'Other', but 'Celestians'.
... and would be add in the location browser

Chuft-Captain wrote:Yeah, I'm aware of Babelfish limitations (can be quite funny sometimes), however.... my french is worse than Babelfish's !!!

Translators are absolutely funny robots, if we can spare time to play with... Babel* is curious: for my first messages on thes forums, It help me, a little, to correct some words, but it seems to me that this years, his many changes are awful: a single sentence is absolutely misunderstanded(!
..and what about 'MachinEntity'?: His message in this thread is absolutely strange, even in French. ('Hors-sujet') Don't know how to answer... Jeam