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For sure my new "piece of art" fits right here



Bye Fridger

PS:

As I just learned from our diligent moderator ,
Purgatory is unfortunately not free of Copyrights.

So to be on the safe side:

I gratefully acknowledge the ingenious and most realistic
background picture in "My Titan" above from ESA

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=18420

Another 'friend' rightly instructed me to also cite the creator of the above angel, which I do with pleasure:

http://www.nada.kth.se/~asa/bilder/angel.jpg

But young school boys, please watch out! Unlike the
original, 'my' angel is properly "desexualized" to protect
your innocence...

Bloody Hell, Fridger ???

No Cham, it is most definitely purgatory.

Nice work Fridger!

Cham wrote:Bloody Hell, Fridger ???

Anything wrong? I discovered Purgatory recently as a
great place of "freedom"!

If I start off right here with a most irrelevant post, there
is little chance for further "punishment". According to the
Purgatory's definition, I can be as off topic as I
please, for example.

Relaxing, indeed...

The next thought that crossed my mind was slightly more
malicious: Suppose I start a most interesting and
Celestia-relevant thread right here. What could happen?
Would I be moved back again, perhaps, by our
disciplined moderator?? Kind of a "promotion" through
"reverse action"?


Or suppose, I decide to write all my future threads
in Purgatory. That would be fun and slightly subversive,
wouldn't it? And nobody including our strict moderator
would complain anymore that I should be nicer to young
school kids. Since Purgatory is not a good place for
school kids, I suppose...


Bye Fridger

Dear Earthlings

Hi! I am an advanced erotic creature from the Omega Point. I have
transformed myself into this computer program now showing on your
screen. I am having sex with your mind using controlled quantum action
at a distance. I know you like it because you are smiling and I can feel
you. Please pass me on to someone else because I am really horny.

Thanks!

Cham wrote:Dear Earthlings

Hi! I am an advanced erotic creature from the Omega Point. I have
transformed myself into this computer program now showing on your
screen. I am having sex with your mind using controlled quantum action
at a distance. I know you like it because you are smiling and I can feel
you. Please pass me on to someone else because I am really horny.

Thanks!

Dear moderator!

Please note that unlike this gentleman here, my Titan
display above was specially "desexualized" to prevent
moral damage of highly motivated school boys
accidentally strolling around in the Purgatory!

I carefully designed a special large leaved plant
ranking around the hips of my angel for protection of the
young generation in this forum...


Bye Fridger

It would be nice if you credited "your" angel to its rightful creator - Anders Sandberg, who originally created it several years ago here, and whose other art can be found on his website

If you're gonna make art, the least you could do is come up with something original instead of copy/paste other peoples work.

(I thought that looked familiar...).

t00fri wrote:According to the Purgatory's definition, I can be as off topic as I please

Well, if you can be off-topic, then so can i... So, just to derail this exellent art discourse, i bring stupendous news:
After closely examining your Titan pic in the Astronomy forum, i have to announce the discovery of...

The Face on Titan!
For easy viewing, i have taken the liberty of outlining what is an obvious, and huge, architectural artifact on the Titan surface... Here it is:



... No sooner has the Face on Mars been debunked before the *real* alien artifacts shows up! Someone please phone the media.

-rthorvald

rthorvald,

hi, hi I am convinced now that the Purgatory in the
furture will harbor the most enchanting non-bourgeois
manifestations of modern (non-trivial) space art!

A place that is non-obvious yet non-hidden with a smell
of the unusual...

Come on, let's get things moving over here.

Bye Fridger

You guys are off-topic.

Once Chris will find a moment to incorporate splash
images into the poor Windoze user's Celestia as well, it
might be a great "secret" place here to start designing
jointly (and far away from the "supermarket"
Motherlode ) the

"One and only Celestia-splash image"!


Bye Fridger

Cham wrote:You guys are off-topic.

Freedom, man ...only hell is hotter than Purgatory

Bye Fridger

Evil Dr Ganymede wrote:It would be nice if you credited "your" angel to its rightful creator - Anders Sandberg, who originally created it several years ago here, and whose other art can be found on his website

If you're gonna make art, the least you could do is come up with something original instead of copy/paste other peoples work.

(I thought that looked familiar...).

Of course I will, I had no idea who did it. The items just
popped up from an "image" WEB search.

I certainly have nothing to hide in this game . Please
note that from the onset, I have put "piece of art" into quotes in "My Titan" above...
One day you will perhaps realize, what's really going on here. .

Do you also want me to post an instruction how I
managed to fit this angel neatlessly into the background
picture I stole from ESA (who took half a year before
they managed to acknowledge Celestia as the origin of
the orbits they displayed on their WEBside?).

Perhaps you'd also find it fair if I describe how I managed to rank this plant around the angel's waist??




Bye Fridger

rthorvald,

how about this?



Bye Fridger

PS: I gratefully fetched "the face" from Mars...

t00fri wrote:Of course I will, I had no idea who did it. The items just
popped up from an "image" WEB search.

And how do you think the image got onto the web? By magic? No, it was because someone made it, and that someone has the right to have a say in what others do with their work. If you want to use it in your pictures, you should have the decency ask their permission or at the very least credit them instead of not mentioning it at all and implying that it's your own work until I called you on it. Or are you not familiar with the concept of "IP theft"?

What pissed me off was that you initially credited the ESA picture, but not the angel. Try thinking before you post next time, and correct your "oversights" without the sarcastic crap when you're in the wrong.

(and as to why I'm pissed off, it's because I know the guy)

Evil Dr Ganymede wrote:

t00fri wrote:Of course I will, I had no idea who did it. The items just
popped up from an "image" WEB search.

And how do you think the image got onto the web? By magic? No, it was because someone made it, and that someone has the right to have a say in what others do with their work. If you want to use it in your pictures, you should have the decency ask their permission or at the very least credit them instead of not mentioning it at all and implying that it's your own work until I called you on it. Or are you not familiar with the concept of "IP theft"?

What pissed me off was that you initially credited the ESA picture, but not the angel. Try thinking before you post next time, and correct your "oversights" without the sarcastic crap when you're in the wrong.

(and as to why I'm pissed off, it's because I know the guy)

I hope you noticed that I cited the angel's creator above.

Also I wonder why you are following me, wherever I try to retreat . Even to Purgatory... I thought I could lead a quiet "life" here far from the "true artists" in this forum, who have recently popped up in large numbers...

For god sake, did you still not get what this thread is all about?? And the one about my new "System X-Rat" (the parts of which I also stole from the WEB, of course)?

I do not have the slightest intention to impress you or anybody else with "my art". I rather leave this to all the other geniuses here...

Bye Fridger

t00fri,

don't worry buddy, I am the one which is understanding you here !

hehehe

t00fri wrote:Do you also want me to post an instruction how I
managed to fit this angel neatlessly into the background
picture I stole from ESA (who took half a year before
they managed to acknowledge Celestia as the origin of
the orbits they displayed on their WEBside?).

I think the lady concerned didn't mean it either. She adapted the open source code to make pictures for a presentation, but when her customer saw them, he thought they were 'cool', and I guess credits were lost in the heat of the moment. And so Celestia was 'usurped' for the MEX project.

Believe me, ESA is not some small, monolithic entity where everyone knows everyone and the left hand knows what the right hand is doing. ESTEC is 500km and a pride barrier away from ESOC. And, as for keeping control of your work in such a place...!

Spiff.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

t00fri wrote:Do you also want me to post an instruction how I
managed to fit this angel neatlessly into the background
picture I stole from ESA (who took half a year before
they managed to acknowledge Celestia as the origin of
the orbits they displayed on their WEBside?).

I think the lady concerned didn't mean it either. She adapted the open source code to make pictures for a presentation, but when her customer saw them, he thought they were 'cool', and I guess credits were lost in the heat of the moment. And so Celestia was 'usurped' for the MEX project.

Believe me, ESA is not some small, monolithic entity where everyone knows everyone and the left hand knows what the right hand is doing. ESTEC is 500km and a pride barrier away from ESOC. And, as for keeping control of your work in such a place...!

Spiff.

I know such structures very well myself, since my lab is one of the largest particle physics labs worldwide.

I had written a rather formal letter of complaint to the head of the project including both my co-authorship of Celestia and my professional position ... At such levels it is rather rare to ignore each other, believe me...

Still it took half a year.

Bye Fridger

Ah yes, the wonders of Inter-Governmental Organisations... .

I often have long periods of absence from the forum, so I don't know if you posted the reply. Did you get a reply, or was it just that small edit the web page?

Also, did you write to 'Project' at ESTEC or the Head of Flight Dynamics at ESOC, or else the SOM at ESOC? I mean, the SOM is a good bloke, so I hope you didn't choose him, but anyone at ESTEC or that Head receiving your concerns would be OK in my books: so long as Celestia stays out of the Empire Builders mitts...

Spiff.