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Post #21by Chuft-Captain » 05.02.2006, 14:15

Here's the beginnings of a webpage to host Celestian Locations. Any comments/questions (and solutions)/suggestions would be appreciated. I'd like to know if there is enough interest to continue with this, and also if anyone can anticipate any issues or problems.
For example:
Q: How do we resolve duplicate locations, where 2 people enter the same lat/long because they live close to each other in the same city?
A: User must enter deg, mins, and secs to a required accuracy. In addition, I would have to check for conflicts as part of the process of updating the repository.
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Post #22by Jeam Tag » 05.02.2006, 15:15

Chuft-Captain wrote:Q: How do we resolve duplicate locations, where 2 people enter the same lat/long because they live close to each other in the same city?
A: this is why i spoke about GE: when the area is well-covered, you can zoom in (and point a tag) exactly on your proper home. GE provides coordonates that you can copy for a Celestian .ssc :
Location "Jeam Tag" "Soleil/Terre" # Villiers sur Orge, France
{
LongLat [2.303500548989796 48.65804996823399 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}

Location "My Neighbor" "Soleil/Terre" # Villiers sur Orge, France
{
LongLat [2.303368868904364 48.65814248325709 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}
(The precedent abstract of the Celestian map I try to wrote + the location of my closest neighbor). Jeam
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Post #23by Chuft-Captain » 05.02.2006, 19:02

Jeam Tag wrote:GE provides coordonates that you can copy for a Celestian .ssc :
Location "Jeam Tag" "Soleil/Terre" # Villiers sur Orge, France
{
LongLat [2.303500548989796 48.65804996823399 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}

Location "My Neighbor" "Soleil/Terre" # Villiers sur Orge, France
{
LongLat [2.303368868904364 48.65814248325709 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}
(The precedent abstract of the Celestian map I try to wrote + the location of my closest neighbor). Jeam


That certainly sets a high standard for zooming! I calculate your neighbor is ~18 metres from you. :wink:
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Post #24by Jeam Tag » 05.02.2006, 20:09

Chuft-Captain wrote:That certainly sets a high standard for zooming! I calculate your neighbor is ~18 metres from you. :wink:
Oh, even this stuff is approx. See what I placed:
ImageThis is easier with a good resolution of the Google maps (but for USA you have great ones, see NY for example), for my place, It wasn't so clear when GE began (with the Keyhole archives), My place was some meters out of limits of a more precise tile, but 6 months later, the tile was updated (hrm, 2 years old, but..) and I can see what you can see there. The little Celestian .ssc file I began was converted for the .kml file I tryied with GE.Jeam
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Post #25by Jeam Tag » 05.02.2006, 20:55

ANDREA wrote:Hello Jeam, I just checked and the marker shows the exact position of my flat in Southern Rome, Italy. :wink:
Ok, (the coverage isn't the same that GE, it seems to me, but in this case, uses similar resolution). Same area with GE:
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So, your location could be

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Location "Andrea" "Sol/Earth"
{
LongLat [12.50723369059078 41.88205044955239 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}
in a Celestian file :wink: Jeam
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Post #26by PlutonianEmpire » 05.02.2006, 23:03

Jeam Tag wrote:
ANDREA wrote:Hello Jeam, I just checked and the marker shows the exact position of my flat in Southern Rome, Italy. :wink:
Ok, (the coverage isn't the same that GE, it seems to me, but in this case, uses similar resolution). Same area with GE:
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So, your location could be

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Location "Andrea" "Sol/Earth"
{
LongLat [12.50723369059078 41.88205044955239 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}
in a Celestian file :wink: Jeam

niiice. :) how do I do this?
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Post #27by ANDREA » 05.02.2006, 23:31

Jeam Tag wrote:
ANDREA wrote:Hello Jeam, I just checked and the marker shows the exact position of my flat in Southern Rome, Italy. :wink:
Ok, (the coverage isn't the same that GE, it seems to me, but in this case, uses similar resolution). Same area with GE:
So, your location could be

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Location "Andrea" "Sol/Earth"
{
LongLat [12.50723369059078 41.88205044955239 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}
in a Celestian file :wink: Jeam
Sorry Jeam, but something went wrong, dunno know what! :?
This is my exact location (I can see my wife's car, too), :wink:

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and here are my coordinates, as taken from GoogleEarth

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Location "Andrea" "Sol/Earth"
{
LongLat [12.42623666666  41.83638888 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}


I checked my position mark in our Frap Celestia Users map, and it's OK, even if it doesn't go so deep in enlargment. :wink:
Hope this helps.
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Post #28by Jeam Tag » 06.02.2006, 00:06

ANDREA wrote:Sorry Jeam, but something went wrong, dunno know what! :? This is my exact location (I can see my wife's car, too)
Yes, Andrea! I remenber your comment about the car, now :lol: The coords' I improved were a copy of the Frappr! location. Grmbl, this system isn't very efficient...
I have corrected your loc in my .kml and .ssc.
So, for fun, is this other place right? :wink:

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Location "Observatoire de Frasso Sabino" "Sol/Earth"
{
LongLat [12.81150555555556 42.22945555555555 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}
Cheers, Jeam
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Post #29by ANDREA » 06.02.2006, 00:50

Jeam Tag wrote:
ANDREA wrote:Sorry Jeam, but something went wrong, dunno know what! :? This is my exact location (I can see my wife's car, too)
Yes, Andrea! I remenber your comment about the car, now :lol: The coords' I improved were a copy of the Frappr! location. Grmbl, this system isn't very efficient...
I have corrected your loc in my .kml and .ssc.
So, for fun, is this other place right? :wink:

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Location "Observatoire de Frasso Sabino" "Sol/Earth"
{
LongLat [12.81150555555556 42.22945555555555 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}
Cheers, Jeam
Hello Jeam, no, the exact Frasso Sabino Observatory coordinates are:

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Location "Observatoire de Frasso Sabino" "Sol/Earth"
{
LongLat [12.81158333333 42.2278333333 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}

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Post #30by Jeam Tag » 06.02.2006, 10:44

ANDREA wrote:Hello Jeam, no, the exact Frasso Sabino Observatory coordinates are:

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Location "Observatoire de Frasso Sabino" "Sol/Earth"
{
LongLat [12.81158333333 42.2278333333 0]
Importance 100.00
Type "Other"
}
OK, thanks. Jeam
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Post #31by Jeam Tag » 06.02.2006, 11:07

PlutonianEmpire wrote:niiice. :) how do I do this?
Sorry, Plutonian, I'm afraid of your area isn't so well covered, even in GE... You can see with Frappr! at the tag you placed, the last levels aren't available in satellite view. There is a similar map in GE:
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Re: Map of users

Post #32by buggs_moran » 06.02.2006, 22:31

Here is an updated map. I know it's not exact. I never really wanted to see what house people live in... Just the region. :)

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Post #33by PlutonianEmpire » 07.02.2006, 00:06

Jeam Tag wrote:
PlutonianEmpire wrote:niiice. :) how do I do this?
Sorry, Plutonian, I'm afraid of your area isn't so well covered, even in GE... You can see with Frappr! at the tag you placed, the last levels aren't available in satellite view. There is a similar map in GE:
Image :? Jeam

I did find my house though, but it's really fuzzy. ;)

my exact latitude and longitude (according to GE) is lat=45.5153122668, lon=-93.5598699384.
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Post #34by Jeam Tag » 07.02.2006, 12:51

buggs_moran wrote:Here is an updated map. I know it's not exact. I never really wanted to see what house people live in... Just the region. :)
Well, more exact placement may be useful, in case of numberous people in the same street :-) So, my little test has a little update, too .(with some approximative places: as you said, this is first to visualize the repartition :)
Google Earth http://jeam.tag.free.fr/Celestia-AddonsVF/Celestians.zip
Celestia http://jeam.tag.free.fr/Celestia-AddonsVF/celestians_loc.ssc
You're welcome to add/correct your location! Jeam
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Post #35by Jeam Tag » 07.02.2006, 12:56

Jeam Tag wrote:You're welcome to add/correct your location! Jeam
For example: when He is NOT in Germany, Adirondack is on Mars: so, where can I found its loc? :lol: Jeam
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Post #36by buggs_moran » 07.02.2006, 15:50

Jeam Tag wrote:
Jeam Tag wrote:You're welcome to add/correct your location! Jeam
For example: when He is NOT in Germany, Adirondack is on Mars: so, where can I found its loc? :lol: Jeam


Very cool ssc Jeam. Of course, the quote above could be solved by my Celestia wish of cyclical motion. Maybe Adirondack could have

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Location "Adirondack" "Sol/Earth" # Hambourg, Allemagne (Fridgers)
{
LongLat [9.999997931737553 53.54999995568105 0]
Importance 500.00
Type "Other"
BeginDate  January 1 12:00:00
EndDate    June 30 23:59:59
}

Location "Adirondack" "Sol/Earth" # Valles Marines Estates, Mars (Estimate)
{
LongLat [9.999997931737553 53.54999995568105 0] [b][i]I know that's not correct[/i][/b]
Importance 500.00
Type "Other"
BeginDate  July 1 12:00:00
EndDate    December 31 23:59:59
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Re: Map of users

Post #37by Jeam Tag » 07.02.2006, 19:54

buggs_moran wrote:Very cool ssc Jeam.
Updated. With lots of approximations, of course. For Adirondack, waiting for Ulrich's preference about his location... I'm thinking that the rock location maybe great (but only Celestia can do that, not GE or the Frappr! map). And I Hope Celestians will correct their refs :wink: . Jeam
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Post #38by Jeam Tag » 08.02.2006, 13:54

buggs_moran wrote: Of course, the quote above could be solved by my Celestia wish of cyclical motion. Maybe Adirondack could have
Location
Here the ones I add:

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Location "Adirondack" "Sol/Earth" # an observatory somewhere in Germany
{
LongLat [6.727499961853021 51.56222152709961 0]
Importance 500.00
Type "Other"
}

Location "Adirondack" "Sol/Mars" # Near Spirit landing site, Gusev crater, Mars
{
LongLat [ 175.478500366211 -14.5718002319336 0 ]
Importance  500.00
Type "Other"
}
The only thing may be corrected is the Ulrich location :twisted:
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Post #39by buggs_moran » 08.02.2006, 20:47

My update info

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Location "Buggs Moran" "Sol/Earth" # Barre, Massachusetts, USA
{
LongLat [-72.11496042374234 42.39333182144864 0]
Importance 500.00
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Post #40by Jeam Tag » 09.02.2006, 10:49

buggs_moran wrote:My update info
Added (GE file and Celestia file), with lots of new (approx.) locations. Jeam
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