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I'm just wondering, in Celestia, is our solar system correctly aligned with our galaxy? I'm not saying it wrong, just wondered if that is how it is.

I'm asking because of this silly 2012 thing, and that it is supposed to be about our alignment within the galaxy. Using Celestia, I can see that earth is at the edges of our orbit around the beginning of March and around the end of September.

So, if we were moving through the galactic plane, and it was going to cause environmental effects then wouldn’t we first start to see them around March or September?

Seb wrote:I'm just wondering, in Celestia, is our solar system correctly aligned with our galaxy? I'm not saying it wrong, just wondered if that is how it is.

Yes, it is. Look in /data/galaxies.dsc to see a description of Celestia's definition of its Milky Way DSC object and of other galaxies.

I'm asking because of this silly 2012 thing, and that it is supposed to be about our alignment within the galaxy. Using Celestia, I can see that earth is at the edges of our orbit around the beginning of March and around the end of September.

So, if we were moving through the galactic plane, and it was going to cause environmental effects then wouldn’t we first start to see them around March or September?

As you say, the 2012 thing is silly. The pseudo-astronomical descriptions used by its promulgators are, shall we say, less than accurate. They use just enough jargon to mislead people who don't take the time to investigate what is actually known about the galaxy and the solar system's astronomical environment.

It has been debunked many times on the BAUT forum, which is a better place to discuss it than here. http://www.bautforum.com/

Selden,

that 2012 nonsense REALLY doesn't belong here!

Fridger

t00fri wrote:Selden,

that 2012 nonsense REALLY doesn't belong here!

I totally agree !

You all wrong. Passing through galactic planes will cause mass volcano explosions and global doom. We see it in that recent movie after all.
I was a teen during the Y2K scare and remember rational people getting worried over silliness. People will always make up a doomsday date get afraid over.

Shhhhh...! ... Don't anyone mention Andromeda!

Damn it, now I've done it!!

Seb wrote:I'm just wondering, in Celestia, is our solar system correctly aligned with our galaxy? I'm not saying it wrong, just wondered if that is how it is.

I'm asking because of this silly 2012 thing, and that it is supposed to be about our alignment within the galaxy. Using Celestia, I can see that earth is at the edges of our orbit around the beginning of March and around the end of September.

So, if we were moving through the galactic plane, and it was going to cause environmental effects then wouldn’t we first start to see them around March or September?

The galactic "center" is like 12 degrees of our viewing plane, and we've been in the general plane since 1998 or something; a 36 year period till it ends. At no point in 2012 do we see all the planets literally lining up (conjunction), and only some of them line up in relation to the plane as a perspective. I've been using Celestia to show people that there's not much to it on December 21, 2012. I've even had to show them that the Mayan Long-count calendar only ends on 12/21/2012 because of a few corrective correlation schemes to translate what the Mayans meant compared to what our current calendar system means. I might add that there are over 50 correlation schemes for the Mayan calendar, and very rarely do these align/conjunct with each other. In one scheme, the Long-count ended in 1546!

Now if someone started a topic on the Big Bang/expanding universe model versus the Plasma Cosmos model, I'd be all on it! The 2012 thing, well, if it were true, the doom would be so bad there's nothing anyone could do about it.