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Fake Moon rock
Posted: 30.08.2009, 10:25
by Fenerit
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 30.08.2009, 11:25
by BobHegwood
Yes, I did see that previously as it was posted on my Road Runner Home page.
Interesting how political minds work isn't it? What I don't understand is why it
took so long for someone to have noticed this little slip-up...
Thanks, Brain-Dead
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 30.08.2009, 12:25
by Fenerit
Bah, yet on TV it looked as red-maroon pietrify rocks, I do not why there would be a microscope to see it!
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 31.08.2009, 23:52
by julesstoop
The rock was given to Willem Drees, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin following their moon mission 50 years ago.
It's a setup
Drees was a socialist. A good one, mind me, but in most American eyes probably socialist enough to be considered deviant, especially then. The funny thing is that he's more or less responsible for my present day job: he designed en implemented our national state pension (AOW) which ensures for everybody in the Netherlands over 65 having a reasonable income. At the moment, I work for the government agency that (amongst many other things) makes sure that our pensionados actually get what they're entitled to.
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 01.09.2009, 10:38
by Fenerit
julesstoop wrote:The rock was given to Willem Drees, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin following their moon mission 50 years ago.
It's a setup
Drees was a socialist. A good one, mind me, but in most American eyes probably socialist enough to be considered deviant, especially then. The funny thing is that he's more or less responsible for my present day job: he designed en implemented our national state pension (AOW) which ensures for everybody in the Netherlands over 65 having a reasonable income. At the moment, I work for the government agency that (amongst many other things) makes sure that our pensionados actually get what they're entitled to.
Well, I don't want to comment the difference between US and Europe about certain political points of view, but as you have noticed, the moon rock seem to be given
before the lunar landing (50 years ago!).
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 01.09.2009, 15:02
by BobHegwood
Fenerit wrote:Well, I don't want to comment the difference between US and Europe about certain political points of view, but as you have noticed, the moon rock seem to be given
before the lunar landing (50 years ago!).
Sorry, but you guys *do* mean
40 years ago... Yes?
I *knew* I wasn't *that* old.
Thanks, Brain-Dead
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 01.09.2009, 16:53
by Fenerit
BobHegwood wrote:Fenerit wrote:Well, I don't want to comment the difference between US and Europe about certain political points of view, but as you have noticed, the moon rock seem to be given
before the lunar landing (50 years ago!).
Sorry, but you guys *do* mean
40 years ago... Yes?
I *knew* I wasn't *that* old.
Thanks, Brain-Dead
Eh, eh... The things are two: either the redactor is young so for him 40/50 years are the same, or actually he lives on the Moon.
EDIT LATER:
Ooops! Perhaps is too sarcastic?
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 12.09.2009, 10:04
by Hungry4info
fuentesmith wrote:Hi Fenerit,
I know that a moon rock given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 has turned out to be a fake. I do not know Why 11 Astronauts did this thing?
Can anyone tell why they diid this thing?
I'm going to guess the Apollo 11 astronauts are not at fault for that, and instead, the rock was fake, and simply wasn't collected. The Apollo astronauts didn't go to the moon, find a fake moon-rock, and bring it back. Fake moon rocks are hard to find on the moon.
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 13.09.2009, 13:19
by JamesC
My first reaction to this story was
"Who cares? It's the gesture, not the fact that it's actually a piece of wood."
and forgive me if I sound flippant.
But if some moon-person gave me a piece of moon rock, I't stick it on the mantle-piece and wouldn't bother checking it: The story is far better than the truth, it's about a magical narrative, not some dudes prancing about in costumes in space.
You might as well ask "Jules Verne: How credible is that?".
And if it's a piece of wood and nobody knows - whaere's the harm?
But wait a minute! I had a brainwave, reading down at the further posts:
About other moon-rocks turning out to be fakes.
- One - that's plausible. But all moon rocks being fakes? How likely is that?
- Together with the (admittedly superficial) fact that nobody remembers exactly when they happened: Were these fakes given out before or after these clowns are supposed to have traipsed around this lunar desert?
It begins to sound fishy. And I mean downright utterly shortchanged on credibility.
What this brings us to, friends, is that the moon landings never happened!
Buzz et al, didn't have any real moon rocks to hand around. They just had a bundle of laughs in the Arizona desert filming moon landings with some dudes from Hollywood.
And I don't mind: It was a great movie - especially when they almost didn't make it back!
OK, ok, I'm just having a laugh: but I wouldn't be surprised if the "No moon-landings" conspiracy loons are even now putting packaging this in there with their conspiracies about flags, lights, and suchlike.
And Hungry4info: nice note: the concept of the moon astronauts finding fake rocks to bring back is a good one.
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 13.09.2009, 22:05
by Fenerit
JamesC wrote:.
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Buzz et al, didn't have any real moon rocks to hand around. They just had a bundle of laughs in the Arizona desert filming moon landings with some dudes from Hollywood.
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With space suit fulfilled with Helium (He)...
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 14.09.2009, 01:07
by Hungry4info
JamesC wrote:And Hungry4info: nice note: the concept of the moon astronauts finding fake rocks to bring back is a good one.
Perhaps, but when you apply that to the big picture, you realise the startling truth. NASA didn't just fake the moon landings, the whole moon is fake too
Re: Fake Moon rock
Posted: 14.09.2009, 04:47
by Reiko
It's a secret Andorian base made to look like a moon.