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Now that I have registered for the Celestia forum I can now put up a poll for the Lera System. I am interested in what people's favourite objects were for my first contribution to the Celestia Motherlode. My personal favourite is The Vomit Comet. This may not be an actual add-on announcement but I don't really know where else to put it.

Michael Kilderry

It is interesting to note (for me anyway) that the second vote (after mine) was for Ringles - The Shepperd Moon. I personally was a little dissatisfied with this object when I first made it - It just looked a little too dark in Celestia. But then everyone has a different opinion and they may have liked it because not many other people have actually made shepperd moons, well that I know of.

I would like to know the person who voted for Ringles, and why they liked it, and that also goes for other poll-voters .

If you want to see some pictures of the objects to help you make your decision (or to make your decision), here is an image of all of them:




Michael Kilderry

I liked Pramar because it's an interesting new type of planet. But..., why it's an electrical planet. Is there something in the surface that makes the planet to be electrical? I think that it would be better if Pramar would have the size between Earth and Neptune, about 15000 km radius. This planet could be thicker than our planet.

Well, some of the worlds are pretty, but the system is not realistic - it seems more of an artistic effort than any attempt to be physically realistic, and to me that kinda defeats the point of Celestia. You can get plenty of beautiful systems while sticking to the laws of physics, after all .

I liked Pramar because it's an interesting new type of planet. But..., why it's an electrical planet. Is there something in the surface that makes the planet to be electrical? I think that it would be better if Pramar would have the size between Earth and Neptune, about 15000 km radius. This planet could be thicker than our planet. - kikinho

It's gonna take a bit to get to the point of this message:

Kikinho, if you are judging the planet by how it looks in Celestia and not just by the picture (which has the specular texture). One of the specular textures didn't originally when I first put Pramarr on the internet. I tried to fix it up by resubmitting it but I'm not sure if the second submitted copy was ignored or not (I haven't checked yet).

If yours is the version where the texture doesn't work, then go into the lera1.ssc file and under Pramarr's info (second world from the top) you'll find where it says -

SpecularTexture "Pramar.jpg"

Change this "Pramar.jpg" to "pramarr_spec.jpg" and go to it in Celestia. You'll see that the rings, cracks, zigzags etc. all look somewhat electrified by the way they shine (well to me anyway). And the huge big green lightning bolt feature looks how it sounds so therefore, I think it should be an electrical type planet.

The planet's size is significantly smaller than you think it would be (don't be fooled by it looking big compared to the rest in the picture above!) I think I made it about the size of Mars. If you mean by "the planet looks thicker than our planet" you are refering to the atmosphere, I think it actually looks thinner.

Well, some of the worlds are pretty, but the system is not realistic - it seems more of an artistic effort than any attempt to be physically realistic, and to me that kinda defeats the point of Celestia. You can get plenty of beautiful systems while sticking to the laws of physics, after all . - Evil Dr Ganymede

I think the worlds are pretty too, but I don't think it matters if the solar system is realistic or not, after all, why let the universe's laws of physics limit you if you don't have to? (Not to mention that you have to expect some unrealistic worlds in the fictional planets and systems section of the Celestia Motherlode). The only limits in my solar systems is my own imagination and Celestia's physics, which I sometimes like to push to the limits of . I don't think it defeats the point of Celestia at all (half the point of Celestia for me is making up worlds). One final note; the worlds may not follow the laws of physics as they could belong to another universe.

We can make plenty of interesting worlds if we follow the laws of physics, even more if we don't.

If you think the worlds in the Lera Solar System were unrealistic, there's plenty more where that came from in the folllow-up: The Lera Solar System - Part Two!

I think the worlds are pretty too, but I don't think it matters if the solar system is realistic or not, after all, why let the universe's laws of physics limit you if you don't have to? (Not to mention that you have to expect some unrealistic worlds in the fictional planets and systems section of the Celestia Motherlode). The only limits in my solar systems is my own imagination and Celestia's physics, which I sometimes like to push to the limits of . I don't think it defeats the point of Celestia at all (half the point of Celestia for me is making up worlds). One final note; the worlds may not follow the laws of physics as they could belong to another universe.

Well in that case it's just fanciful space art, isn't it. Which is fine - there's nothing wrong with that in itself. But I still think that it seems a little out of place to discuss it on the Physics and Astronomy board, if you're not actually interested in making the system astronomically realistic or conforming to the physics of this universe. Maybe the Add-ons board would be a more appropriate place for presenting this sort of thing instead?

Well in that case it's just fanciful space art, isn't it. Which is fine - there's nothing wrong with that in itself. But I still think that it seems a little out of place to discuss it on the Physics and Astronomy board, if you're not actually interested in making the system astronomically realistic or conforming to the physics of this universe. Maybe the Add-ons board would be a more appropriate place for presenting this sort of thing instead? - Evil Dr Ganymede

I never said that there was absolutely no realism in it, read the readme part on Jovalera and I've actually tried to think of what conditions would be like on a planet like this, and Kitherea is also pretty realistic, and I believe the post (on the Physics and Astronomy board) was pretty relevant to the actual topic being discussed.

Thanks for your continued interest,

Michael Kilderry

After four votes, It seems that the Vomit Comet is in the lead of the Lera Solar System polls with two votes (My vote and Evil Dr. Ganymede's?). We have a draw for second place with Ringles (voter unknown) and Pramarr (one vote by Kikinho). I would like to have more than 3 votes from other members of the forum as that isn't that many people, but thankyou for the people who did look at my system and voted , I appreciate it.

Part Two of the Lera Solar System is merely days away from release. It is a four object addon to the original solar system, including a double giant system and asteroids. I am making a few final fix-ups on this addon, as well as starting work on Part Three, which will feature more realistic looking (and more detailed) worlds if things go to plan.

Michael Kilderry

Don't look at me, I haven't voted. But FWIW I really don't like the comets at all (if there's anything I do like in your system though, it's probably Kytheria since that seems to be the only world here that's kinda realistic)

Oops sorry, It's just that the vote came at about the same time you put your forum post in. If you like realistic worlds, then you'll really like Seian of the third installment of the Lera System, and if you like Kitherea, vote for it!

Don't look at me, I haven't voted. - Evil Dr Ganymede

If you didn't vote for the Lera System, then who did

Michael Kilderry