Millennium simulation in Celestia
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Millennium simulation in Celestia
I'm currently working on a new addon for Celestia : the millennium simulation, as shown here :
http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/millennium/
See for example this page (several animations) :
http://cosmicweb.uchicago.edu/filaments.html
Simple resume on Wikipedia :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_simulation
Here's a picture of the current prototype in Celestia (about 53 000 "galactic-particles" in the cube, so it's running very smoothly in Celestia) :
I'll probably make a kind of "multi-layers" for Celestia, to simulate the animation shown here :
http://cosmicweb.uchicago.edu/images/mov/bnr_full2.mpg
My only problem for the moment is the choice of colors. I'm interested to use a color blending effect, to reproduce the colors on the pictures as seen here :
http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/galform/ ... illennium/
http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/millennium/
See for example this page (several animations) :
http://cosmicweb.uchicago.edu/filaments.html
Simple resume on Wikipedia :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_simulation
Here's a picture of the current prototype in Celestia (about 53 000 "galactic-particles" in the cube, so it's running very smoothly in Celestia) :
I'll probably make a kind of "multi-layers" for Celestia, to simulate the animation shown here :
http://cosmicweb.uchicago.edu/images/mov/bnr_full2.mpg
My only problem for the moment is the choice of colors. I'm interested to use a color blending effect, to reproduce the colors on the pictures as seen here :
http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/galform/ ... illennium/
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
See also my respective discussion with video material a long time ago, here:
http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewtopic.php?t=25
Or from a recent meeting (DESY Theory Workshop 2008) at my lab:
(via Lactea Project!)
http://th-workshop2008.desy.de/sites/si ... iemand.pdf
with these great videos from the speaker's site
http://www.ucolick.org/~diemand/vl/
http://www.ucolick.org/~diemand/vl/movies.html
Fridger
http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewtopic.php?t=25
Or from a recent meeting (DESY Theory Workshop 2008) at my lab:
(via Lactea Project!)
http://th-workshop2008.desy.de/sites/si ... iemand.pdf
with these great videos from the speaker's site
http://www.ucolick.org/~diemand/vl/
http://www.ucolick.org/~diemand/vl/movies.html
Fridger
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
Cham wrote:I'm currently working on a new addon for Celestia : the millennium simulation, as shown here :...
Yep, I also think that meanwhile the engine of Celestia is modified to render such structure, such addon is really welcome!
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
I made 24 animation "frames". This is trully amazing, in Celestia, while moving inside the cube and watching the animation step by step (using a "multi-layers" script). You can clearly feel galaxies clusters rotating around each others, "nodes" evolving, etc. Here's a picture of the 10 first "frames" (the jpeg compression is terrible on this picture) :
The 24 ASCII CMOD files are taking about 38 MB on the HD (average of 1.6 MB per frame).
The 24 ASCII CMOD files are taking about 38 MB on the HD (average of 1.6 MB per frame).
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
Here's a preview of the simulation of the universe *today*. The colors are coming from the original source (truncated into 12 shades). As usual, click the thumbnail for a larger view :
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
Two more views of the cube (size of cube *today* is 279 MLY) :
Thanks a lot to Gerard Lemson, from the Millennium Database project, to help me in using the database query.
Thanks a lot to Gerard Lemson, from the Millennium Database project, to help me in using the database query.
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
The Millennium Simulation multi-layer is merging very well with the SLOAN model. Very nice in Celestia :
I think the Millennium addon is ready.
I think the Millennium addon is ready.

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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
No, that cube is just a small portion of the whole Millennium simulation. The data of the whole simulation is MUCH larger and would be a total mess in Celestia and the files would be MUCH larger on the hard disk! The cube I made has a size of about 280 MLY, which is already pretty large (ASCII CMOD files are of about 36 MB on disk). You can fly inside the cube easily, and the view is already spectacular.
EDIT : The size of my box is actually 1/8 of the whole simulation box, hence [tex](1/8)^3 = 0.2\%[/tex] of the total volume. The whole simulation box was using periodic conditions on its edges, which is very commonly done for this kind of research on a super-computer.
ElChristou, do you want me to send you a model for testing, by email ? I should be able to do it later today.
EDIT : The size of my box is actually 1/8 of the whole simulation box, hence [tex](1/8)^3 = 0.2\%[/tex] of the total volume. The whole simulation box was using periodic conditions on its edges, which is very commonly done for this kind of research on a super-computer.
ElChristou, do you want me to send you a model for testing, by email ? I should be able to do it later today.
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
Hehehee !
Soon : galactic interaction and mergers in full 3D for Celestia !
http://ozone.obspm.fr/horizon/galmer/
Too bad the sprites aren't working correctly in Celestia
EDIT : Look at this one :
http://www.projet-horizon.fr/IMG/gif/pa ... 048.1c.gif
Soon : galactic interaction and mergers in full 3D for Celestia !

http://ozone.obspm.fr/horizon/galmer/
Too bad the sprites aren't working correctly in Celestia

EDIT : Look at this one :
http://www.projet-horizon.fr/IMG/gif/pa ... 048.1c.gif
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
Cham,
Are you planning to provide ScriptedOrbit functions for the stars of the interacting galaxies?
(It'd be nice if ScriptedOrbit functions could work for galaxies, too.
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Are you planning to provide ScriptedOrbit functions for the stars of the interacting galaxies?
(It'd be nice if ScriptedOrbit functions could work for galaxies, too.

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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
selden wrote:Cham,
Are you planning to provide ScriptedOrbit functions for the stars of the interacting galaxies?
(It'd be nice if ScriptedOrbit functions could work for galaxies, too.)
No. The galactic collision models will just be a bunch of CMOD "frames", that could be turned ON/OFF with a "multi-layers" script. I should be able to achieve a step by step animation like for the Millennium simulation. Each frame is made of several thousands of "particles", defined by the simulation computations.
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
Here's the kind of stuff I'm interested to build in CMOD format. I should be able to make some models during the following weeks.
http://cosmicweb.uchicago.edu/images/gal/gal_z4_rot.mpg
Of course, the model will be defined as a multi-layer (with step by step animation of the structure formation).
http://cosmicweb.uchicago.edu/images/gal/gal_z4_rot.mpg
Of course, the model will be defined as a multi-layer (with step by step animation of the structure formation).
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
Cham wrote:...ElChristou, do you want me to send you a model for testing, by email ? I should be able to do it later today.
I fear 36 Mo by mail is not a good idea... You should definitively find a server soon!
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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
ElChristou wrote:Cham wrote:...ElChristou, do you want me to send you a model for testing, by email ? I should be able to do it later today.
I fear 36 Mo by mail is not a good idea... You should definitively find a server soon!
Well, I can send just some "frames" (each one is about 1.6 MB, unzipped).
The whole addon is approximately 10 MB, once zipped.
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Cham wrote:ElChristou wrote:Cham wrote:...ElChristou, do you want me to send you a model for testing, by email ? I should be able to do it later today.
I fear 36 Mo by mail is not a good idea... You should definitively find a server soon!
Well, I can send just some "frames" (each one is about 1.6 MB, unzipped).
The whole addon is approximately 10 MB, once zipped.
Then what about 2 mails of 5Mo?

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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
Note to self : nice simulation to reproduce in Celestia at
http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/Virgo/hubble.html
EDIT : Argh ! First test model failed. The small corner shown below is a 2.1 MB ASCII CMOD file (a small subset of the whole data), while the whole data is supposed to completely fill the cube
. Their data is WAAAAAY too large ! A complete CMOD model would take several GB on disk !8O
http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/Virgo/hubble.html
EDIT : Argh ! First test model failed. The small corner shown below is a 2.1 MB ASCII CMOD file (a small subset of the whole data), while the whole data is supposed to completely fill the cube

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Re: Millennium simulation in Celestia
ElChristou wrote:That's means, adios addon?
No. I just have to select some subsets. I'll have to experiment a lot with the huge data files. There are several simulations to play with, anyway: there are many independant simulation groups out there, which are giving access to their data. So many similar addons, with various approaches, using different values of the cosmological parameters (Omega ...), etc.
So the addon I gave to you by email is just a first one of this kind.
Instead of showing the galactic structure at a given epoch, using several frames to show the time evolution, I want to produce a pie shaped model of the simulated distribution of galaxies in space with the dependance on redshift, like the SLOAN model. See for example the picture here :
http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/Virgo/lc_lcdm.gif
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