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Posted: 24.05.2005, 22:04
by ElChristou
Hello,
I want to know if the actual ssc is good enough... (I don't remember where it come from...). If not, someone can do one? I even don't know the exact size of the shuttle...
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Posted: 24.05.2005, 22:44
by bh
ElChristou...do you have a scenario in mind?...I have several ssc's for the shuttle.
Radius 0.020
regards...bh.
Posted: 24.05.2005, 23:33
by sundog
bh wrote:Radius 0.020
Here
http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/~ssa/docs/S ... eral.shtml it states the length as 122.17 feet = 37.23 metres.
So shouldn't it be: Radius 0.037
I'm no ssc or spacecraft expert so could be wrong.
sundog
Posted: 24.05.2005, 23:38
by Cham
State of the Art Rocket Science :
Length = 37.23 meters
Radius = half length = L/2 = 18.6 meters
so radius approximately 0.020 km.
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Posted: 25.05.2005, 00:10
by sundog
Cham wrote:Radius = half length = L/2 = 18.6 meters
Doh, of course it is
I'ts late here in UK, I was thinking of diameter
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.... I need some sleep.
sundog
Posted: 25.05.2005, 00:20
by ElChristou
Tx to all of yours...
bh wrote:...ElChristou...do you have a scenario in mind?...I have several ssc's for the shuttle...
Not really... I haven't found yet which mission to illustrate... For now I'm collecting more documents for the payload bay...
If you have a basic ssc just for the orbiting it's ok for me because I really not sure of the one in the prerealease...
Posted: 25.05.2005, 00:55
by Cham
As a scenario, you could represent the encounter of the shuttle with some alien spaceship from the parallel inner world.
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Posted: 25.05.2005, 09:46
by selden
The Atlantis has flown on several classified missions. All that's known are the approximate orbital parameters. They won't say what they did...
Posted: 25.05.2005, 18:51
by Ariane
Cool ce forum !
on peut m??me "causer" notre bonne vielle langue....? savoir le french ! D?©cid?©ment j'aime beaucoup cette communaut?© !
Au fait ...
Salut Cham !
Au passage je voulais te f?©liciter pour tes addons notamment ceux sur les trous noirs... j'en ai ?©pat?© plus d'un avec ! et surtout les fondus d'Univers (comme moi ...
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!)
F?©licitation donc et mes plus vifs et sinc??res encouragements !
Cordialement,
PS: dans le cadres de ma th??se je prend des cours d'anglais (passage oblige pour publier et ??tre connu....) et je suis en train de pr?©parer une pr?©sentation en English:le sujet ?©tant libre (on veut juste nous apprendre ? bien pr?©senter pour la future soutenance ...
![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
), devine ce que j'ai pris.... Eh oui, les trous noirs ! en fait je l'avais d?©j? fait en fran?§ais il y a un moment... mais ? l'?©poque je n'avais pas Celestia et tes addons.... Ca t'ennui si je reprend quelques illustrations ? en citant la source, of course ! Sinon no prob ! j'ai pleins d'autres sources ... mais ce n'est pas Celestia ...
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Posted: 25.05.2005, 19:18
by Ariane
t00fri wrote:Ariane, welcome back!
(did you finish your PhD, perhaps?)
Greetings Fridger !
No, my PhD finished only in 2 years, and I'm not hurried ! The naval academy where I'm doing my work is so beautiful !!! Moreover the teatchers are very nice !
With two (academic) woman around myself in the family, I must confess that our "cuisini??re (?©lectrique)" has not been used in fact for years
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.
Alors ? on fait moins le malin lorsque les femmes s'en m??lent ?
==> Then? one makes less clever when the women interfere themselves ? (but i'm not really sure that the translation is correct 'cause it's an expression ...
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)
Of course I am a bad boy. Everyone here knows that
Bye Fridger
C'est du joli !
==>Shame on you !!!
Regards,
Posted: 25.05.2005, 20:03
by ElChristou
Ariane wrote:...Eh oui, les trous noirs ! en fait je l'avais d?©j? fait en fran?§ais il y a un moment... mais ? l'?©poque je n'avais pas Celestia et tes addons.... Ca t'ennui si je reprend quelques illustrations ? en citant la source, of course ! Si oui, no prob ! j'ai pleins d'autres sources ... mais ce n'est pas Celestia ...
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Salut, Ariane
Super garde bien au chaud toute tes sources car le th??me m'int?©resse aussi (bien entendu au niveau de la mod?©lisation... j'suis pas un expert en astrophysique
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
)... Le travail de Cham est vraiment super, mais j'aimerais faire des d?©riv?©s avec d'autres mod??les de jets (surtout pour la partie finale...)... bref d'autre projet en vue...
A++
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Hi, Ariane
Great, keep all your sources from a side cause I'm quite interested in the topic (at the modelisation level, as I'm not an astrophysic expert
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
)... Cham's work is very impressive, but I want to create other model of jets (principally for the ending)... In brief, more project for the future...
Bye
Posted: 26.05.2005, 07:10
by Ariane
ElChristou wrote:Salut, Ariane
Super garde bien au chaud toute tes sources car le th??me m'int?©resse aussi (bien entendu au niveau de la mod?©lisation... j'suis pas un expert en astrophysique
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
)... Le travail de Cham est vraiment super, mais j'aimerais faire des d?©riv?©s avec d'autres mod??les de jets (surtout pour la partie finale...)... bref d'autre projet en vue...
A++
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Hi, Ariane
Great, keep all your sources from a side cause I'm quite interested in the topic (at the modelisation level, as I'm not an astrophysic expert
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
)... Cham's work is very impressive, but I want to create other model of jets (principally for the ending)... In brief, more project for the future...
Bye
Salut ElChristou...
Whaouoooooo
En voila une bonne nouvelle ! je te rassure, je ne suis pas non plus astrophysicienne, juste un g?©ologue passionn?©e par l'Univers, la naissance des ?©toiles et bien sur la formation de notre bonne vielle terre ! J'ai lus pas mal de chose sur les trous noirs vu que le sujet me passionne, et effectivement, niveau mod?©lisation, il y a encore beaucoup ? explorer ...
Donc si je peux t'aider en quoi que ce soit ... j'en serais tr??s heureuse !!!
--
Greetings ElChristou.
cool ! what such a good news ! don't worried, i'm not an astrophysic expert no more, just a geologist found of Univers, birth of stars and of course the formation of our great old earth !
I've read a lot about black hole
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and indeed there still have a lot of things to explore at a modelisation level.
If I can help you, it will be a pleasure for me !
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Posted: 26.05.2005, 21:48
by ElChristou
Ariane wrote:En voila une bonne nouvelle ! je te rassure, je ne suis pas non plus astrophysicienne, juste un g?©ologue passionn?©e par l'Univers, la naissance des ?©toiles et bien sur la formation de notre bonne vielle terre ! J'ai lus pas mal de chose sur les trous noirs vu que le sujet me passionne, et effectivement, niveau mod?©lisation, il y a encore beaucoup ? explorer ...
Donc si je peux t'aider en quoi que ce soit ... j'en serais tr??s heureuse !!!
On reparlera de ?§a dans un futur plus ou moins proche
A+
Posted: 26.05.2005, 22:24
by ElChristou
To everybody.
Meanwhile I'm working on the cockpit and the payload, you can now download the preliminary model from ML (I have deleted the previous link):
http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/creators/elchristou/EC_Atlantis.zip
Bye.
Posted: 27.05.2005, 12:53
by ElChristou
As the modeling is slowing down due to an overload of regular work, here is the actual state of the filght deck:
Bye
Posted: 27.05.2005, 22:55
by bh
Bloody hell!
regards...bh.
Posted: 28.05.2005, 01:36
by Michael Kilderry
That looks very complex!
Michael
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Posted: 28.05.2005, 04:04
by selden
For what it's worth, I've been reviewing my old "Space Shuttle Operators Manual" and the 2001 edition of a history of the shuttle. Both of them show a total of four seats in the cockpit, with two seats in the rear for mission specialists, not just one.
However, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they take one of them out for some flights.
Posted: 28.05.2005, 11:51
by ElChristou
selden wrote:...However, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they take one of them out for some flights...
Yes, looking at the floor, there is some "attach points" for a fourth seat... as there is not so much space in this tiny room, I think I will keep 3 seats for better viewing...
Posted: 28.05.2005, 20:32
by ElChristou
Work in progress: Flight deck: 50% over...
First rendering test in Celestia:
Bye