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Posted: 22.05.2005, 21:37
by TERRIER
ElChristou wrote:
Do exist good images of these ones?


Not brilliant I'm affraid, there might be enough info looking through the following;

[url=http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/search/search.cgi?selections=STS30&browsepage=Go&submit.x=11&submit.y=11&submit=submit]
Mission STS-30 Magellan[/url]

Mission STS-34 Galileo

Mission STS-41 Ulysses

The good news is that decent models for all three I.U.S (Inertial Upper Stage) "launch" versions of Magellan, Galileo and Ulysses are already available. I reckon just some minor detailing to the payload bay is all that is necessary.

regards,
TERRIER

PS
The Boeing site may have some images which may help also.

Posted: 22.05.2005, 21:52
by ElChristou
Giorgio,

Cool... As I don't have Big VT... it's very pleasant to see the model in situation...

Tx.

Bye

Posted: 22.05.2005, 21:54
by t00fri
ElChristou,

really cute your Atlantis!

Bye Fridger

Posted: 22.05.2005, 21:54
by ElChristou
TERRIER wrote:
ElChristou wrote:
Do exist good images of these ones?

Not brilliant I'm affraid, there might be enough info looking through the following;

[url=http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/search/search.cgi?selections=STS30&browsepage=Go&submit.x=11&submit.y=11&submit=submit]
Mission STS-30 Magellan[/url]

Mission STS-34 Galileo

Mission STS-41 Ulysses

The good news is that decent models for all three I.U.S (Inertial Upper Stage) "launch" versions of Magellan, Galileo and Ulysses are already available. I reckon just some minor detailing to the payload bay is all that is necessary.

regards,
TERRIER

PS
The Boeing site may have some images which may help also.


Tx, I will have a look at all this.

Posted: 22.05.2005, 21:58
by ElChristou
t00fri wrote:ElChristou,

really cute your Atlantis!

Bye Fridger


Tx, wait to see your bacchanal... :wink:

Posted: 22.05.2005, 22:17
by bh
Yes...bloody great job!

regards...bh.

Posted: 23.05.2005, 12:04
by sundog
Well done ElChristou, you've done a marvelous job with Atlantis, I love the detail.

ElChristou wrote:Some strange shadows on the wings when the light come from the front of the model... This is an earlier problem, so to solve it I need (perhaps) to redo the entire body...


Those "strange shadows" on the wings are just where the mesh isn't quite even. Light at a very low angle will show even the smallest amount deviation on the surface. If your soft doesn't have some kind of smoothing tool then leave it as it is. Don't go and redo the entire body again.

Great job. I can't wait to see the flight deck.

Thanks


sundog

Posted: 23.05.2005, 12:26
by ElChristou
sundog wrote:...Those "strange shadows" on the wings are just where the mesh isn't quite even. Light at a very low angle will show even the smallest amount deviation on the surface. If your soft doesn't have some kind of smoothing tool then leave it as it is. Don't go and redo the entire body again...


No in fact it's no a problem of smothing... I have to much vertices in that zone, conbinated with a little plane zone at the junction between fuselage and wings... I will try to solve this with more time.

Bye

Posted: 23.05.2005, 12:40
by sundog
Ah, my appologies ElChristou,

I've only done a little modelling and it looked like the effect of one of "my" uneven surfaces.

My mistake, sorry.


sundog

Posted: 23.05.2005, 16:29
by ElChristou
sundog wrote:Ah, my appologies ElChristou... ...My mistake, sorry.


Don't worry, there is no problem... I'm the first in notice the wrong things on models... I will try to solve all this...

Bye

Posted: 23.05.2005, 18:45
by TERRIER
Giorgio wrote:
Quite incredible, the Atlantis logo doesn't lose resolution when zooming in 8O


That's because lettering can be modelled.

Speaking of which, do you have the Nasalization font type ElChristou ?
Very handy for doing some "retro" space shuttles.

Posted: 23.05.2005, 19:22
by ElChristou
Terrier,

Tx for the link... Can be usefull.

EDIT: I will and the "NASA" with this font on the side of the shuttle...

Bye

Posted: 23.05.2005, 19:33
by TERRIER
ElChristou,

t00fri wrote:ElChristou,

really cute your Atlantis!

Bye Fridger


Yeah, it's a real fwuffy bunny wabbit of a model. :lol:

Nah, seriously, it's very good...and if I may point you to Jack Higgins Website, he's made available to everyone, the ULTIMATE NASA logo in 3ds.

cheers,
TERRIER

Posted: 23.05.2005, 19:39
by ElChristou
Hello, again

Sundog point me on a little problem of vertices on the left side of the shuttle, so I fix it, and as nobody saw a little problem of normals, I fix this too... Also I have reduced the cmod file from 19,1mo to 5,7mo... So if you want, you can download again the preliminary craft...

EDIT: for the download like, see further in the Thread...

I'm now checking the Nasa sites for images for the payload bay...

Bye

Posted: 23.05.2005, 19:46
by ElChristou
TERRIER wrote:...and if I may point you to Jack Higgins Website, he's made available to everyone, the ULTIMATE NASA logo in 3ds....


Nice... will be implemented on next release.

NOTE: I will give all the respectives credits for logos, perhaps part of models et, in the "official release"...

Posted: 23.05.2005, 19:55
by ElChristou
Seems the arm hasn't been used in the Magellan mission :?... I will look for a mission with arm...

EDIT:
idem for Galileo... still diging...

Posted: 24.05.2005, 18:56
by Ariane
t00fri wrote:
Qu'est ce que tu penses: elle va faire la cuisine
comme toujours... ;-)


Bye Fridger


Hey !!!! Fridger !!!
As a women and french moreover, I'm not agree :)
what are those bad manners ??? I'm shocking !
but congratulation for the french ... :D

As your avatar, your a bad boy ! :wink:

Posted: 24.05.2005, 19:06
by Ariane
ElChristou wrote:
sundog wrote:Ah, my appologies ElChristou... ...My mistake, sorry.

Don't worry, there is no problem... I'm the first in notice the wrong things on models... I will try to solve all this...

Bye

Hi ElChristou !
Fantastic ! you've done a wonderful work ! it's always a pleasure to visit the Celestia forum... we can find a lot of surprises ... :D

Posted: 24.05.2005, 19:17
by Cham
Ariane wrote:
t00fri wrote:
Qu'est ce que tu penses: elle va faire la cuisine
comme toujours... ;-)


Bye Fridger

Hey !!!! Fridger !!!
As a women and french moreover, I'm not agree :)
what are those bad manners ??? I'm shocking !
but congratulation for the french ... :D

As your avatar, your a bad boy ! :wink:


He bien, he bien, le gar?§on s'est fait prendre les culottes baiss?©es ! Non mais vraiment, quelle bande de machos, ces gamins scientifiques ! Tssk, tssk ! ROFL'N LOL :oops: :roll: :lol: :wink: :twisted: Humm ! Bon d'accord, je m'efface derri??re mon sourrire...

Posted: 24.05.2005, 19:51
by t00fri
Ariane wrote:
t00fri wrote:
Qu'est ce que tu penses: elle va faire la cuisine
comme toujours... ;-)


Bye Fridger

Hey !!!! Fridger !!!
As a women and french moreover, I'm not agree :)
what are those bad manners ??? I'm shocking !
but congratulation for the french ... :D

As your avatar, your a bad boy ! :wink:


Ariane, welcome back!

(did you finish your PhD, perhaps?)

With two (academic) woman around myself in the family, I must confess that our "cuisini??re (?©lectrique)" has not been used in fact for years ;-) .

Of course I am a bad boy. Everyone here knows that :roll:

Bye Fridger