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SDSS DR2 Galaxies

Post #1by selden » 24.03.2004, 12:31

The SDSS second data release was made available last week. Using their Spectro database search form, I generated a list of 78055 galaxy positions to create this CMOD Addon. You'll need Celestia v1.3.2pre3 or later to view it.

http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/celestia/sdss-2dr-galaxies.zip (1.4MB, 24Mar04)

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Added later:
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/celestia/sdss-dr2-v2.zip (4.4MB, 8Apr04) is now available.. It shows 243,673 galaxies with improved precision.

See http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/celestia/catalogs.html#3.5.12 for more details.
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Post #2by mmarable » 24.03.2004, 20:47

You'll have to pardon me for sounding dumb, but what exactly is this? What is the SDSS? What is the add do?

Sorry, it sounds cool, but I have no idea what you're talking about. I'll go plug it into Google and see what I can find out.

<Sulks off feeling dumb> :? :?

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Post #3by selden » 24.03.2004, 21:18

SDSS = Sloan Digital Sky Survey.
It's a project to photograph about 1/4 of the sky with high precision.
See http://www.sdss.org
They just published their second public "Data Release". It's about 6TB. I think they're about 1/3 done.

This Addon is a model consisting of glowing points in space, representing the locations of some 78,000 galaxies in deep space. You can see where there are large voids with no galaxies, as well as regions of high density, forming "walls". Over very large volumes, galaxies are arranged as if they were on the surfaces of bubbles.

Unfortunately, the precision of the redshift values that they've published is rather low. It needs to be at least 10x better: if you look closely at the model, you'll see that the galaxies form circles centered on the sun. I've written to their helpdesk at FNAL (Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, one of the primary members of the collaboration) to ask if better values are available. The errors that they quote imply that there are.

(Added slightly later)
For comparison, you might want to look at the model of the equivalent 2dF survey, which looked in somewhat different directions than the Sloan survey is looking. It's available on my Catalogs Web page, along with some others. I've used different colors for the models. The CMOD model files are plain text files, though, so you can edit them to use whatever color scheme you want.
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Post #4by don » 25.03.2004, 02:18

That's amazing, to see this data actually plotted in Celestia's 3-D space. Thanks Selden!
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Post #5by don » 26.03.2004, 21:15

selden wrote:SDSS = Sloan Digital Sky Survey.
It's a project to photograph about 1/4 of the sky with high precision.
See http://www.sdss.org

Selden,

Giving out links like this can be dangerous to a user's health! :lol: ... I spent the entire day and night yesterday, using their Navigator applet to wander through the universe, looking here, looking there, seeing all kinds of WONDEROUS things! It's like Celestia on steroids, but it's not 3-D. :(

I have the feeling I'll be spending a LOT of time there in the next few days. Thanks for the link!
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Post #6by selden » 26.03.2004, 21:27

Don't forget the 2MASS IR survey, while you're at it :)
http://www.ipac.caltech.edu/2mass/
Their low-resolution all-sky release was made available about a year ago.
They're hoping to have the high-resolution version available some time this year.
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Post #7by Evil Dr Ganymede » 26.03.2004, 21:34

2MASS is a star catalogue too, isn't it? I wonder if anyone can convert that into a stars.dat file... ;)

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Post #8by don » 26.03.2004, 21:35

Ooo! Ooo!

Gotta go see that one too!

IR, COOL! UR2!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It might take me the rest of the year just to get through SDSS DR2. 8O

This is much cooler than MapQuest, when it had aerial and satellite photos!

Thank you Selden,
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Post #9by don » 27.03.2004, 08:36

For those of you who are interested, Tamas Szalay created a free Windows DirectX-8 program to view the 131,000 SDSS Data Release 1 (DR1) galaxy positions (in 3 dimensions). The program is called Galaxy Explorer 2.0 and can be downloaded from the SDSS site at (http://cas.sdss.org/dr2/en/help/download/gex2/default.asp). It's a ZIP file of about 1,889 KB in size, which includes the data file.

The program also allows the use of a standard CSV XYZ data file, so you can extract your own objects from the SDSS database (http://cas.sdss.org/dr2/en/tools/search/sql.asp) and have this program plot them in 3-D! No need to create an add-on.

I just found this program tonight, love it, and just finished writing to him asking if he will be expanding the data file to include DR2.

Enjoy...

---------------------- ADDED LATER -------------------
In order to use your own CSV file, if you are extracting the cx, cy, and cz values from the SDSS database, you also need to extract the z (redshift) value. Then, when you get the data on your system, multiply each cx, cz, cy value by z. For a better display, also multiply the result by 1000. Otherwise, you'll just need to move forward a bit to get the data showing on the display.
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Post #10by selden » 08.04.2004, 05:19

http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/celesti ... dr2-v2.zip (4.4MB, 8Apr04) is now available.. It shows 243,673 galaxies instead of only 78,000.

See http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/celesti ... tml#3.5.12 for more details.
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Post #11by don » 08.04.2004, 05:47

That truly is an amazing sight to look at. Well done Selden!
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Post #12by Kolano » 08.04.2004, 22:25

Can anyone comment on if ATI owners will ever be able to view these correctly? Unless I reduce the radii to E7 or less, the points which make up the models flash on and off as the model is rotated. At some points thousands of points seem to be visible, but at others only a few hundred.

From previous posts I understand that the issue has to do with ATI only supporting a 16-bit Z-buffer. Could some sort of scaling be implemented to keep values within the 16-bit range on cards not supporting 24-bit buffers? Or is that what is being done now and is causing the issues I experience?

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Post #13by don » 10.04.2004, 19:11

Chris would be the only one who could answer this question but it seems that he is busy elsewhere for the time being.
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Post #14by maxim » 10.04.2004, 20:17

I have to reduce to E+6 on my MX card to get nonflickering results for these addons.

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