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STS no. needed!

Post #1by bh » 13.10.2003, 18:17

Thanks to orion_nebulas fantastic ISS models, I've been able to model my inspiration for the shuttle models...
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This image has been my desktop wallpaper for months. I don't know the artist, but I'd love some more.
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Almost uncanny!

I've added a new docking collar under 'Unity'. I'm not sure if this is an 'artists impression' or a real mission...can anyone help! Then I can give the model it's correct STS number and zip it off!

Regards...bh.

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Post #2by selden » 13.10.2003, 19:43

If it were a real photograph, the point of view suggests that it would have to have been taken by someone doing a free-flight in a MMU. I doubt they'd do that. Some of NASA's "computer generated representations" are rather good :) E.g. see http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-104/html/jsc2001e19791.html

Truss S0 is missing, so it has to be before STS-110 / assembly flight 8A. (see http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/assembly/flights/8a.html)

The point of view might hide the airlock, so it might be STS-104/7A or later, but I don't think so. See http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-104/html/sts104-723-014.html. It's rather large.

The station's robotic arm is in place, so I'd guess it's supposed to be STS-100/6A (flown by Endeavour), which installed it.

The Celestia ISS model doesn't seem to have the robotic arm (I think it's too big to fold up out of sight) so it would seem to correspond to either STS-102/5A.1 (resupply, flown by Discovery) or STS-98/5A (which installed the Destiny Lab Module that's just above the shuttle, flown by Atlantis).

Correction added later:

After examining the pictures on Orion's Web site, it seems that the tiny pipe-thing is indeed supposed to be the robotic arm, so I do think your representation is appropriate for STS-100/6A. My personal opinion is that the model element being used for the arm is way too small, though.

(I haven't found a NASA picture on the Web yet which directly corresponds to the one you have.)

Does this help?
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Post #3by bh » 13.10.2003, 21:01

Thanks Selden...I've trawled around for a couple of hours myself and I think I'm going for STS100.

I will post this model later tonight.

Regards...bh.

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Post #4by selden » 13.10.2003, 21:37

I found your picture: http://www.esa.int/export/esaHS/GGGOX22BVIC_iss_0.html
It is supposed to represent STS-98: Atlantis delivering "Destiny". The robotic arm in the picture is that of the shuttle, not the ISS. Also, the image page says "artist's impressions".
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Post #5by ElPelado » 13.10.2003, 23:03

Have you notices that the docking port of the section above the shuttle in the ESA picture has not the same alaignment that the one in celestia's screen shot???
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Post #6by bh » 13.10.2003, 23:42

ElPelado...yes...you're right about that one...I'll leave it be for the time being...Selden...many thanks for your detective work on this...I've got books and I've got books!

I think I'll name the model sts100.3ds although the ssc will name it as 'ISS-6A/Endeavour'. I think it's an artists impression...but it meant so much to me on modelling the shuttle I'd like to post it!

Model coming very soon!

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Post #7by Dr Love » 16.10.2003, 14:19

Hello everybody, I'm a new member on this forum (first post) but some month I read all of your messages. I'm a fan of Celestia and I hope I will help in the development of add-ons or bringing some interesting infos. You are all doing a very good job.

I confirm that the picture represent STS-98 Atlantis installation of Destiny Lab on ISS. It's an artist's rendering of Space Shuttle Atlantis (STS-98) docked with International Space Station (ISS) during 5A. The arm you can see is the Shuttle one and not the SSRMS of ISS. You can find infos and high-res pictures on this link :
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/archives/sts-98/

I don't think the NASA is wrong !!! :D

Question : how do you convert models from Orbiter software ???

Sorry If I made mistakes on this post but it's my first one... of a long serie I hope !!!
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