51 Pegasi/b

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #41by Fenerit » 11.12.2010, 00:20

MiR wrote:
john Van Vliet wrote:"milestone"
Normally i think of a Roman mile marker stone
or
X % of a project done by X date as stated in a contract .
Oops, a language problem (on my side);
I would say: A big step for mankind. (Like Armstrong's "giant leap...")

...and concerning to Giordano Bruno - as much as I know - it wasn't the church, but the governor of Rome... (Church had asked for leniency.)

Michael
This "meaning issue" is beautiful, because John is actually in true for what concern the "Roman" meaning; while for the "contract" I should say, in my land, "a step" :wink: Nonetheless, is interesting that in Germany and in Italy we ascribe the same meaning to "milestone". Maybe because for the Romans the last milestone the last part of the explored land, and so on?
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #42by Fenerit » 11.12.2010, 01:10

MiR wrote:
...and concerning to Giordano Bruno - as much as I know - it wasn't the church, but the governor of Rome... (Church had asked for leniency.)

Michael

The governor of Rome was the Pope... :wink: Next year will be the 150 years anniversary that the Pope is no longer the governor of Rome (Unity of Italy).
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #43by MiR » 11.12.2010, 12:13

Fenerit wrote:Nonetheless, is interesting that in Germany and in Italy we ascribe the same meaning to "milestone". Maybe because for the Romans the last milestone the last part of the explored land, and so on?

Yes. Because the Romans brought the civilization to Germany. And this was a great social progress - a "milestone" - for the further future of Germany.( But I'm not sure if Germany has understood everything correctly )

...and where do 51 Pegasi/b comes in here...? Well, I don't know :wink:

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #44by fungun » 11.12.2010, 15:42

Michael, thank you. :D

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #45by MiR » 11.01.2011, 05:59

I have finished the night texture and added a second cloud-layer (for a better heat-simulation).
Into the hires folder I put a more detailed map with the same size (4k) but somewhat structured. Here's the result...

pegasi_night.jpg

51pegasi_detail.jpg

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #46by MiR » 11.01.2011, 06:08

Hi,

here's the night texture of 51 Pegasi/b...

51pegasi_night.jpg

Here you can see different opengl2 renderings. I prefer the "middle" adjustments. But you will be able to change this easily inside the ".ssc" file.

density.jpg

Criticism and suggestions are always welcome.

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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #47by Fenerit » 11.01.2011, 23:31

Yes, indeed the "middle" adjustment looks preferable. Just a discussion, Michael. You have acted on Mie/Lord R. backscattering; now I was wonder on how could looking that planet if the nightside were more hot. Because is unclear whether such kind of planets could be more hot on the backside than on the frontside due to the heat convective motions and (or not) tidal locked behaviour, I wish ask to you if you have experimenticed such backscattering condition or not, and whether (if easy to reproduce, without too much precious time of yours) it rocks. :mrgreen:

EDIT LATER:
By assuming fictitius temperatures, supposed (I do not know) the conditions of the your original parameters.
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #48by Fenerit » 11.01.2011, 23:46

Never mind, Michael; was just a curiosity.
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #49by MiR » 12.01.2011, 04:35

Hi Massimo,

thanks for your question;

Fenerit wrote:I wish ask to you if you have experimenticed such backscattering condition or not,

Oh, yes, I did.

With the reddish colour I associated the huge heat on the darker back of 51 Pegasi/b. Incidentally, it took some time to realize this light-scattering effect... :roll:

At first I've made this work - inspired by a ZDF-TV-documentary - with a good portion of faith and several barrels of intuition. And - look at the very first images - with John's help. :idea:

Then I spent hours and days trying to learn and understand the fine tuning of the Mie-parameters. Wasn't easy...

Sometimes the colour was right, but too dark; or the density good, but the height of the atmosphere was wrong; sometimes the cloud layer looked like a snow storm in the night or everything else turns into an absurdity; or something else... But I kept my nerves. :wink:

Encouraged by Hungry4info - I think she is very competent in "extrasolar" related things - I intend to make it publish now.

Do not misunderstand me; if someone has good arguments for a better presentation of my 51 Pegasi/b interpretation; I'm willingly to correct this or that.

I emphazised in previous posts that my work on the 51 Pegasi/b map is pure fiction (my work on the map; not the extrasolar planet 51 Pegasi/b itself). Just good for an illustrated educational view.
Because 51 Pegasi/b is too bright I think to recognize any detail on its hot surface. In addition planet "b" is outshined by its related star...
(But the stars in Celestia - our sun, too - are also "unreal". In reality you can't look at the surface of a star, it's much too bright...)

But one thing I know for sure; the real planet 51 Pegasi/b looks quite different from this... :!:

it's just my imagination...

But I'm looking forward for the first - real - images of 51 Pegasi/b.

So, thanks for your ambitious criticism :)

Michael
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #50by Fenerit » 12.01.2011, 14:59

Thanks, Michael.
FYI, Hungry4info is a "she". :D
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Re: 51 Pegasi/b

Post #51by MiR » 13.01.2011, 09:17

Oh, I'm sorry :oops:

@Hungry4info: I've corrected my previous post immediately.

Thanks Massimo

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