Virtual Textures For Dummies!

Tips for creating and manipulating planet textures for Celestia.
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Post #21by ElChristou » 28.01.2006, 22:09

Fridger's virtualtex work perfectly on Mac via Terminal...
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Post #22by pierre » 30.01.2006, 22:30

Hi Selom and ElCristiou ,thank you for your quick answers .

What am i supose to do whith "vitualtex"?Do i have to copy/paste it in Terrminal?Sorry , i'm computing illeterate.

I gave up trying to find a dds convecter for Mac ,so i'll make my vt map of earth with jpn,and Bob's dummie is a good tutorial for me.Thanks again Bob .
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Post #23by BrainDead » 30.01.2006, 23:43

pierre wrote:I gave up trying to find a dds convecter for Mac ,so i'll make my vt map of earth with jpn,and Bob's dummie is a good tutorial for me.Thanks again Bob .
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My pleasure, Pierre...

Just FYI though, you should easily be able to find a DDS converter for the
MAC. I'm using "Irfanview" for my dilapidated old Windows setup, and I saw
rather a few other converters whilst browsing for DDS to JPG converters.

Hope that helps.

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Post #24by ElChristou » 31.01.2006, 00:04

pierre wrote:Hi Selom and ElCristiou ,thank you for your quick answers .

What am i supose to do whith "vitualtex"?Do i have to copy/paste it in Terrminal?Sorry , i'm computing illeterate.

I gave up trying to find a dds convecter for Mac ,so i'll make my vt map of earth with jpn,and Bob's dummie is a good tutorial for me.Thanks again Bob .
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Pierre.


Nope, virtualtex is a script, you have to call the functions via terminal; first you will have to download and install ImageMagick, then the script + the file you want to cut have to be in your home folder. Now you will call the script in terminal with for example:

virtualtex XXXX.png 512 jpg (where XXXX.png is the file you want to cut)

the script will run and you will have as output the tiles in 512x512 in jpg.

For DDS, on Mac we only have GraphicConverter which can use this format, unfortunatly the result in quality are not of the best...

Ps: Selom-> Selden, ElCristiou-> ElChristou :wink:
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Post #25by pierre » 04.02.2006, 01:02

Hi.
thanks a lot ElChrstiou ,I have Graphiconverter now.
I still can't use virtualtex as I don't know how to call an application ,so i made my very first V.T Mars map with 3 levels manualy with Photoshop.Very time consuming indeed.I really don'tknow how to make level 4 before christmas.

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Post #26by ElChristou » 04.02.2006, 17:03

pierre wrote:...thanks a lot ElChrstiou...

Almost... :wink:

pierre wrote:...I still can't use virtualtex as I don't know how to call an application...


Recall the image you want to cut (for this example let's say XXX.png) and the script must be in your home (user) folder; let's say your computer name is "pierre's computer"; let's say your user name is "pierre"; when you open Terminal you should have something like:

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Last login: Sat Feb  4 13:09:19 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
pierre's_computer:~ pierre$


then you "call" the script with:

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Welcome to Darwin!
pierre's_computer:~ pierre$ virtualtex


then you add the commands you want to use:

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Last login: Sat Feb  4 13:09:19 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
pierre's_computer:~ pierre$ virtualtex XXX.png 512 jpg


XXX.png = the file you want to cut
512= the output size of the tiles (can be 256, 1024...)
jpg= the format of the output tiles (can be png...)

then you press Enter, the script will run and after a few seconds/minutes of process the output tiles will be saved in your user folder.

For more info, try again to read carefully VTforDummies...

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Post #27by pierre » 13.02.2006, 16:58

Thanks a lot ElChristou for your neat explanation.
I'll try that as soon as i figure out how to install ImageMagick.

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Post #28by ElChristou » 13.02.2006, 17:16

pierre wrote:Thanks a lot ElChristou for your neat explanation.
I'll try that as soon as i figure out how to install ImageMagick.

Pierre.


Just download it and click the install button (it's an install package if I recall)... You will see nothing in your app folder as ImageMagick is a command line tool...
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Post #29by Reiko » 11.06.2007, 10:29

Does there happen to be an updated VT for dummies guide out there?
I can't seem to get all of the needed tools installed, specifically NetPbm and I did take into account the newer version. :?:
Or maybe there is another way to tile the textures I don't know about?

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Post #30by BobHegwood » 15.10.2007, 16:52

Reiko wrote:Does there happen to be an updated VT for dummies guide out there?
I can't seem to get all of the needed tools installed, specifically NetPbm and I did take into account the newer version. :?:
Or maybe there is another way to tile the textures I don't know about?


Sorry that no one answered you Reiko... I've been away for a while.

I don't think that anyone else has modified that guide yet, but I could be
wrong. Did you check the MotherLode?

ElChristou? Any changes here?

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Post #31by mergemedia » 19.12.2007, 21:42

Great answers, ElChristou. Thank you for the explanation. It's a big help.
I too am running OSX, and had no problem installing ImageMagick from source code. Most folks are not used to using command line tools, so it might be a bit new to them. It works great, though!

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Post #32by ElChristou » 19.12.2007, 22:02

BobHegwood wrote:...

ElChristou? Any changes here?...

No idea... :oops:

(Bob, sorry to be late on this one! re :oops:)

mergemedia wrote:Great answers, ElChristou. Thank you for the explanation. It's a big help.
I too am running OSX, and had no problem installing ImageMagick from source code. Most folks are not used to using command line tools, so it might be a bit new to them. It works great, though!


I think people interested in VTs should try out the new TexTools from Fridger, available at CM; with a bit of practice you should be able to get some optimized VTs on poles, what is a great improvement...
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Post #33by mergemedia » 19.12.2007, 22:07

ElChristou wrote:I think people interested in VTs should try out the new TexTools from Fridger, available at CM; with a bit of practice you should be able to get some optimized VTs on poles, what is a great improvement...


I see the OSX version of TexTools is 'coming soon'.. Sounds pretty cool, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks for the heads up!

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Post #34by ElChristou » 19.12.2007, 22:39

mergemedia wrote:I see the OSX version of TexTools is 'coming soon'.. Sounds pretty cool, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks for the heads up!


No, the TexTools are multi platform and can already been tested downloading the actual version. They are command line tools, but nothing really "scary" ;-)
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Post #35by dboldt » 19.12.2007, 23:05

TexTools is pretty good stuff.. Thanks for the free clues :D

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Post #36by t00fri » 19.12.2007, 23:08

mergemedia wrote:
ElChristou wrote:I think people interested in VTs should try out the new TexTools from Fridger, available at CM; with a bit of practice you should be able to get some optimized VTs on poles, what is a great improvement...

I see the OSX version of TexTools is 'coming soon'.. Sounds pretty cool, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks for the heads up!


There is still an outdated entry in our CM site that the OSX version is coming soon. This is INCORRECT. Since their first publication I offered the F-TexTools for ALL popular operating systems, including MAC-PPC's and MAC-Intels.

The tools are VERY well tested meanwhile, notably also by our OSX expert (DW aka dirkpitt) in the Celestia dev team, who also kindly compiled the MAC binaries.

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Post #37by BobHegwood » 20.12.2007, 00:25

I would also add my comments too ElChristou's here...

I have downloaded Doctor Schrempp's tools from the CM site, and
am really going to use them just as soon as I get some more time.

I know, I know... That's everyone's problem isn't it?

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