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A week ago I wrote something like

Uhhhh, discussing a new GUI right now...

Well, I changed my mind.

Paolo, I browsed the historic threads starting 2003. Obviously you spent a lot of time with this stuff.

... and you surely gathered quite a lot of experience. Are there reasons NOT to continue your work?
I know that there are several things to keep in mind, like
- performance
- session management
- bookmark management
- platform specific look+feel
- platform specific gimmicks
- TASTE!!!

What do YOU think does make sense right now?

Horst.

IMHO makes sense more than ever!

But...

E.g. Christophe do not agrees with this. Probably he is right: he prefers standard (reliable, tested, documented) platforms like QT.
Other developers do not agrees, e.g. the ones that have spent a lot of time in preparing KDE, GTK, MacOS versions and prefers a highly OS integrated UI.

There are many reasons to support both the Unified multiplatform UI or the native OS UI's.
I continue to think that the first has some advantages. But I'm not a Celestia developer.

I've started CELUI as a C++,STL,OGL playground. Now it has several thousands of lines of code, and after two years I think to be at half of the work. But I'm alone.

Thanks for your prompt reply, Paolo.

E.g. Christophe do not agrees with this. Probably he is right: he prefers standard (reliable, tested, documented) platforms like QT.
Other developers do not agrees, e.g. the ones that have spent a lot of time in preparing KDE, GTK, MacOS versions and prefers a highly OS integrated UI.

well, different people have different preferences. That's ok.

In one week I'm off to Croatia for two weeks. When I return I would like to compile celui on my system -- of course only if you feel comfortable with this idea!

Btw. -- completely off-topic -- I know the region around Pordenone from holidays, and well ... my wife lived in Trento for 16 years

Horst.

hjw wrote:Thanks for your prompt reply

Hey Horst I'm not for formalisms, and more ... here in these forums I am one like the others. So no more "thankyous" please

hjw wrote:When I return I would like to compile celui on my system -- of course only if you feel comfortable with this idea!

No problem! Except that its a long time that I don't upload the CELUI code on sourceforge. So we will need to use HTTP or e-mail. The Zip package is about 2 MB. What do you prefer?
BTW in this period I'm working on menus. Its a bit complex and there are still many problems but the actual result with the current Celestia (win version) menus is already a lot of fun!

hjw wrote:Btw. -- completely off-topic -- I know the region around Pordenone from holidays, and well ... my wife lived in Trento for 16 years

The region around Pordenone has renowned beachs. Did you come in Lignano, Bibione, Caorle... ?

The Zip package is about 2 MB. What do you prefer?

I will send you a PM.

Did you come to Lignano, Bibione, Caorle... ?

all of them, plus Jesolo and a lot of little villages between the beach and Trento
... with one noteworthy exception: Pordenone

Horst.

Just to give an idea...
!http://xoomer.virgilio.it/pangeli1970/Code%20tests.htm

Thanks Paolo, of course I looked there before I started this thread

Horst.

But have you seen the latest Celestia multilanguage menu screenshots that I've updated this evening?
What do you thik about it?

After having made run GlutCelestia compile throug DevC++, I have added the Celui code.
Now I'm building the UI using the celui widgets.

I made the previous versions of Celui using Visual C++ 6. Due to the compiler differences the porting to the MinGW (minimalist GNU for windows) compiler used by Dev C++ was a two days long nightmare.

But now I think that recopile Celui under Linux will a lot be more easier.

It does't seem to work.
Celui coupled with Celestia do not renders correctly.

I think that I'm missing some openGL state setting. Lines are drawn ok but all
the filled and textured rectangles are drawn empty.

I'll make extended debugging this week.

BTW I've reactivated the sourceforge account and installed Tortoise CVS, so now
the code in CVS.sourceforge.net is up to date.
If you want to checkout please try these setting:

:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/celui

Be aware... it is pre-alpha code.
Maaaaaany things has to be corrected and improved.

There are still some state settings that do not work correctly but here it is
the first screenshot of Celui + Windows Glut Celestia in Action !

Looks good, I would like to try this on Linux