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Hi, I'm new in this forum. I'm an italian teacher. Yesterday I started the itallian translation of Celestia's User Guide.
At time I'm at page 10.

Francesca Campora

abnormal wrote:Hi, I'm new in this forum. I'm an italian teacher. Yesterday I started the itallian translation of Celestia's User Guide.
At time I'm at page 10. Francesca Campora

Welcome to you, Francesca.
Ther are many Italian people in this list, so we'll enjoy your tralslation.
By and thank you

Andrea

ANDREA wrote:

abnormal wrote:Hi, I'm new in this forum. I'm an italian teacher. Yesterday I started the itallian translation of Celestia's User Guide.
At time I'm at page 10. Francesca Campora

Welcome to you, Francesca.
Ther are many Italian people in this list, so we'll enjoy your tralslation.
By and thank you

Andrea

Hi Andrea and hi all!
Has never anybody started to port Celestia in italian language (base version)?
I know that Celestia is a scientific software and it is not so important to have it in italian, but the problems of many free softwares in Italy at school is the language. Many teachers stops theirselves in front of an english software. This is really wrong, but it happens indeed:)

Francesca Campora

abnormal [francesca] wrote:Hi Andrea and hi all! Has never anybody started to port Celestia in italian language (base version)? I know that Celestia is a scientific software and it is not so important to have it in italian, but the problems of many free softwares in Italy at school is the language. Many teachers stops theirselves in front of an english software. This is really wrong, but it happens indeed:) Francesca Campora

Francesca, I have partially translated the original 2002 Celestia guide, and if you wish I can send it zipped by e-mail (anyhow it's 1.8 Mb), but I've stopped doing it for a simple reason: Celestia is a never ending job, so that in one year we have at least a couple of new prereleases and one final release, most of them with so big improvements that we "MUST" install the new one.
But this means that the text we have translated is no more coupled with the new software, so...
I agree with you that the language is a big difficulty, but as you know the technical- scientific English is most of times very close to Italian (Latin- Greek), so that most of words don't need translation.
If you want, I should advice you to follow the "SCRIPTS" forum, where you'll find a lot of just ready packages, than can be shown by PC or with a videoprojector, giving a very nice interactive show (pay attention, NOT a movie, the teacher can act at will on this, even following students requests), that can be very easily translated, and that will not change with the new software releases.
I'm in touch with some Italian Natural Sciences teachers, and all of them are VERY interested to Celestia as a teaching tool, due to its notable visual impact on students.
If you need more information, you are welcome, and if you prefere, send me a private e-mail.
By soon

Andrea

If you are both Italian....why are you talking in English??

}{ wrote:If you are both Italian....why are you talking in English??

The reason is that this post started in English and we will go on in this way, just for respect of the other non-Italian speaking people.
I think that English should be the OFFICIAL celestia language, don't you agree?
And, by the way, who are you, Mr. no country's }{ ?
By

Andrea

Hi! Ciao a tutti!

I'm italian too, but I write in english, just because I often use that language in my job: I'm quite sure that speaking english nowadays is necessary...
Obviously I do like writing in italian (and in fact I currently write in italian for my job and for amusement ).
I'm glad to hear that someone translates Celestia's User Guide: I have only a small request and a prayer.
Please don't translate unnecessary terms, that are commonly used worldwide with english words: talking about computers, I remember that in the past years there were good people who translated everything.
What do you think about "if ... then ... else" (in computer programming), translated with "se ... allora ... altrimenti" ? Yes, it's formally correct, but here in Italy we say that "fa ridere i polli!" .
(Please help me translating in english for the other friends!)
Back to Celestia...
Just a couple of examples...
While terms like "Right Ascension" and "declination" can be correctly used instead of "Ascensione Retta" e "declinazione", just because terms are easily readable, words like "Solar flare" would need no translation: I'm not quite sure which is the correct translation in italian, but it doesn't matter!
Another example?
"Billow Maiden", the great rthorvald add-on to celestia: I absolutely don't know its meaning, but I don't care knowing it. There is no necessity to translate it!
Thanks and goodbye!

Buon lavoro!
Pierluigi

piellepi wrote:Hi! Ciao a tutti! I'm italian too, but I write in english, just because I often use that language in my job: I'm quite sure that speaking english nowadays is necessary...Please don't translate unnecessary terms, that are commonly used worldwide with english words: talking about computers, I remember that in the past years there were good people who translated everything.
Thanks and goodbye! Buon lavoro! Pierluigi

Hello Pierluigi, I agree with you on the need not to translate English words that are commonly used in Italian language, like the ones you show.
But normally the translations are made using a (good) translating software, that translates almost correctly more than 80% of the text (but not the grammar, alas!), so practically everything, including "... then ... else", and on this results we apply the needed corrections.
In the past I had a lot of doubts on what to translate or not, because the language is evolving very quickly, and day by day new words enter in the common use.
Moreover thare are words that "cannot" be translated in Italian if not using long phrases.
I'm sure that Francesca will follow your advice, and will give us a neat Italian translation.
By soon

Andrea

You won't believe me.....I'm Italian too

I made a translation...I italianized the file "asterisms.dat" and I changed some constellations' diagrams to make them more recognizable ( even though they aren't "official shapes" I like them )

Have a Look:! (create a new notepad file...paste this and rename it asterisms.dat)

"Andromeda"
[
[ "Beta And" "Delta And" "Alpha And" ]
[ "Beta And" "Mu And" "Nu And" "Phi And" ]
[ "Beta And" "Upsilon And" "Almach" ]
[ "Delta And" "Epsilon And" "Zeta And" "Eta And" ]
[ "Delta And" "Pi And" "Sigma And" "Iota And" "Omicron And"]
[ "Kappa And" "Lambda And" ]
[ "Beta And" "Pi And" ]
]

"Macchina Pneumatica"
[
[ "Iota Ant" "Alpha Ant" "Theta Ant" "Epsilon Ant" ]
]

"Uccello del Paradiso"
[
[ "Beta Aps" "Gamma Aps" "Delta1 Aps" "Alpha Aps" ]
]

"Acquario"
[
[ "Zeta Aqr" "Gamma Aqr" "Alpha Aqr" "Beta Aqr" "Mu Aqr" "Epsilon Aqr" ]
[ "Beta Aqr" "Iota Aqr" ]
[ "Eta Aqr" "Zeta1 Aqr" "Pi Aqr" "Alpha Aqr" ]
[ "Alpha Aqr" "Theta Aqr" "Lambda Aqr" "Tau Aqr" "Delta Aqr" "Psi1 Aqr" "Phi Aqr" "Lambda Aqr" ]
[ "b1 Aqr" "Psi1 Aqr" "c2 Aqr" ]
[ "Omega2 Aqr" "Psi1 Aqr" ]
]

"Aquila"
[
[ "Theta Aql" "Eta Aql" "Delta Aql" "Zeta Aql" "Epsilon Aql" ]
[ "Beta Aql" "Alpha Aql" "Gamma Aql" "Mu Aql" "Delta Aql" "Lambda Aql" "12 Aql" ]
[ "Beta Aql" "Mu Aql"]
]

"Altare"
[
[ "Beta Ara" "Alpha Ara" "Epsilon1 Ara" "Zeta Ara" "Eta Ara" "Delta Ara" "Gamma Ara" ]
]

"Ariete"
[
[ "41 Ari" "Alpha Ari" "Beta Ari" "Gamma Ari" "Alpha Ari" ]
]

"Auriga"
[
[ "Alpha Aur" "Beta Aur" "Theta Aur" "Iota Aur" "Eta Aur" "Alpha Aur" ]
[ "Eta Aur" "Zeta Aur" "Epsilon Aur" "Alpha Aur" ]
[ "Alpha Aur" "Omicron Aur" "Pi Aur" "Beta Aur" ]
]

"Bootes"
[
[ "Gamma Boo" "Beta Boo" "Delta Boo" "Epsilon Boo" "Alpha Boo" "Pi1 Boo" "Zeta Boo" ]
[ "Rho Boo" "Gamma Boo" "Lambda Boo" "Kappa2 Boo"]
[ "Tau Boo" "Eta Boo" ]
[ "Upsilon Boo" "Eta Boo" "Alpha Boo" ]
[ "Pi1 Boo" "Epsilon Boo" "Rho Boo" ]
[ "Delta Boo" "Mu1 Boo" "Beta Boo" ]
[ "Theta Boo" "Lambda Boo" ]
]

"Bulino"
[
[ "Alpha Cae" "Beta Cae" ]
]

"Giraffa"
[
[ "7 Cam" "Beta Cam" "Alpha Cam" "Gamma Cam" ]
[ "31 Cam" "42 Cam" "43 Cam" "HD 49878" ]
[ "Alpha Cam" "HD 33541" "HD 49878" "HD 64486" "HD 90089" "HD 112014"]
[ "HD 21291" "Gamma Cam" "HD 33564" "HD 55966" "HD 90089" ]
]

"Cancro"
[
[ "Alpha Cnc" "Delta Cnc" "Gamma Cnc" "Iota Cnc" ]
[ "Delta Cnc" "Theta Cnc" "Beta Cnc" ]
[ "Gamma Cnc" "Eta Cnc" "Theta Cnc" ]
[ "Xi Cnc" "Gamma Cnc" "Nu Cnc" ]
[ "Theta Cnc" "Zeta1 Cnc" "Mu Cnc" ]
[ "Gamma Cnc" "18 Cnc" "Psi Cnc" ]
[ "Pi Cnc" "Delta Cnc" ]
]

"Cani da Caccia"
[
[ "Alpha1 CVn" "Beta CVn" ]
]

"Cane Maggiore"
[
[ "Beta CMa" "Alpha CMa" "Iota CMa" "Gamma CMa" "Theta CMa" "Iota CMa" ]
[ "Alpha CMa" "Omicron2 CMa" "Delta CMa" "Sigma CMa" "Epsilon CMa" "Zeta CMa" ]
[ "Delta CMa" "Omega CMa" "Eta CMa" ]
[ "Omega CMa" "Tau CMa" ]
[ "Kappa CMa" "Epsilon Cma" ]
[ "Sigma CMa" "Omicron1 CMa" "Alpha CMa" ]
]

"Cane Minore"
[
[ "Alpha CMi" "Beta CMi" "Gamma CMi" ]
]

"Capricorno"
[
[ "Alpha1 Cap" "Beta Cap" "Psi Cap" ]
[ "Beta Cap" "Theta Cap" "Iota Cap" "Gamma Cap" "Delta Cap" ]
[ "Iota Cap" "Zeta Cap" "Theta Cap" "Omega Cap" ]
[ "Iota Cap" "Epsilon Cap" "Kappa Cap"]
]

"Carena"
[
[ "Alpha Car" "N Car" "Chi Car" "Epsilon Car" "Iota Car" "s Car" "Theta Car" "Upsilon Car" "Omega Car" "Beta Car" "Alpha Car" ]
]

"Cassiopea"
[
[ "Iota Cas" "Epsilon Cas" "Delta Cas" "Gamma Cas" "Alpha Cas" "Beta Cas" ]
[ "Alpha Cas" "Zeta Cas" "Omicron Cas" ]
]

"Centauro"
[
[ "Delta Cen" "Epsilon Cen" "Zeta Cen" "Gamma Cen" "Delta Cen"]
[ "Mu Cen" "HD 117440" "Iota Cen" "i Cen" ]
[ "Iota Cen" "2 Cen"]
[ "Kappa Cen" "Eta Cen" "Phi Cen" "Nu Cen" "Theta Cen" "Psi Cen" "Phi Cen" ]
[ "Zeta Cen" "Mu Cen" "Phi Cen" "Upsilon1 Cen" "Zeta Cen" ]
[ "Delta Cen" "Pi Cen"]
[ "Delta Cen" "Lambda Cen" ]
[ "Beta Cen" "Epsilon Cen" "Alpha Cen" ]
[ "n Cen" "Tau Cen" "Gamma Cen" ]
]

"Cefeo"
[
[ "Theta Cep" "Eta Cep" "Alpha Cep" "Beta Cep" "Pi Cep" "Iota Cep" "Zeta Cep" "Mu Cep" "Alpha Cep" ]
[ "Zeta Cep" "Epsilon Cep" "Delta Cep" ]
[ "Pi Cep" "Gamma Cep" ]
[ "Beta Cep" "Kappa Cep" ]
]

"Balena"
[
[ "Gamma Cet" "Alpha Cet" "Lambda Cet" "Mu Cet" "Xi2 Cet" "Nu Cet" "Gamma Cet" "Delta Cet" "Omicron Cet" "Zeta Cet" "Theta Cet" "Eta Cet" "Iota Cet" "2 Cet" "7 Cet" "Beta Cet" "Tau Cet" "Zeta Cet" ]
[ "Xi1 Cet" "Xi2 Cet" ]
[ "Pi Cet" "Upsilon Cet" "Tau Cet" ]
]

"Camaeleonte"
[
[ "Alpha Cha" "Gamma Cha" "Beta Cha" "Delta2 Cha" "Theta Cha" "Alpha Cha" ]
]

"Compasso"
[
[ "Gamma Cir" "Alpha Cir" "Beta Cir" ]
]

"Colomba"
[
[ "Delta Col" "Kappa Col" "Theta Col" ]
[ "Alpha Col" "Omicron Col" "Epsilon Col" "Beta Col" "Eta Col" "Gamma Col" "Kappa Col" "Lambda Col" "Sigma Col" "Nu2 Col" "Mu Col" "Alpha Col" ]
]

"Chioma di Berenice"
[
[ "Alpha Com" "Beta Com" "Gamma Com" ]
]

"Corona Australe"
[
[ "Epsilon CrA" "Gamma CrA" "Alpha CrA" "Beta CrA" "Delta CrA" "Zeta CrA" ]
]

"Corona Boreale"
[
[ "Theta CrB" "Beta CrB" "Alpha CrB" "Gamma CrB" "Delta CrB" "Epsilon CrB" "Iota CrB" ]
]

"Corvo"
[
[ "Alpha Crv" "Epsilon Crv" "Gamma Crv" "Delta Crv" "Beta Crv" "Epsilon Crv" ]
]

"Coppa"
[
[ "Eta Crt" "Zeta Crt" "Gamma Crt" "Delta Crt" "Epsilon Crt" "Theta Crt" ]
[ "Gamma Crt" "Beta Crt" "Alpha Crt" "Delta Crt" ]
]

"Croce del Sud"
[
[ "Alpha Cru" "Gamma Cru" ]
[ "MimosaBET Cru" "Delta Cru" ]
]

"Cigno"
[
[ "Kappa Cyg" "Iota Cyg" "Theta Cyg" "Delta Cyg" "Gamma Cyg" "Epsilon Cyg" "Zeta Cyg" ]
[ "Alpha Cyg" "Gamma Cyg" "Eta Cyg" "Phi Cyg" "Beta Cyg" ]
[ "Kappa Cyg" "26 Cyg" "Alpha Cyg" "58 Cyg" "Zeta Cyg" ]
[ "Xi Cyg" "Alpha Cyg" ]
[ "58 Cyg" "Sigma Cyg" "Tau Cyg" ]
[ "Zeta Cyg" "78 Cyg" ]
]

"Delfino"
[
[ "Epsilon Del" "Beta Del" "Delta Del" "Gamma1 Del" "Alpha Del" "Beta Del" ]
]

"Dorado"
[
[ "Gamma Dor" "Alpha Dor" "Zeta Dor" "Beta Dor" "Delta Dor" ]
[ "Alpha Dor" "Kappa Dor" "Beta Dor" ]
[ "Lambda Dor" "Zeta Dor" ]
[ "Nu Dor" "Delta Dor" "Theta Dor" ]
]

"Dragone"
[
[ "Nu1 Dra" "Beta Dra" "Gamma Dra" "Xi Dra" "Nu1 Dra" ]
[ "Xi Dra" "Delta Dra" "Epsilon Dra" "Tau Dra" "Chi Dra" "Zeta Dra" "Eta Dra" "Theta Dra" "Iota Dra" "Alpha Dra" "Kappa Dra" "Lambda Dra" ]
]

"Cavallino"
[
[ "Delta Equ" "Beta Equ" "Alpha Equ" "Gamma Equ" ]
]

"Eridano"
[
[ "Lambda Eri" "Beta Eri" "Omega Eri" "Mu Eri" "Nu Eri" "Omicron1 Eri" "Gamma Eri" "Pi Eri" "Delta Eri" "Epsilon Eri" "Eta Eri" "Tau1 Eri" "Tau2 Eri" "Tau3 Eri" "Tau4 Eri" "Tau5 Eri" "Tau6 Eri" "Tau9 Eri" "Upsilon1 Eri" "Upsilon2 Eri" "43 Eri" "41 Eri" "G Eri" "F Eri" "E Eri" "Theta Eri" "Iota Eri" "S Eri" "Kappa Eri" "Phi Eri" "Chi Eri" "Alpha Eri" ]
]

"Fornace"
[
[ "Alpha For" "Beta For" "Nu For" ]
]

"Gemelli"
[
[ "1 Gem" "Eta Gem" "Mu Gem" "Epsilon Gem" "Tau Gem" "Rho Gem" "Alpha Gem" ]
[ "Beta Gem" "Upsilon Gem" "Delta Gem" "Zeta Gem" "Gamma Gem" ]
[ "Delta Gem" "Lambda Gem" "51 Gem" "Xi Gem"]
[ "Nu Gem" "Epsilon Gem" ]
[ "Tau Gem" "Theta Gem" ]
[ "Upsilon Gem" "Kappa Gem" ]
[ "Upsilon Gem" "Iota Gem" "Tau Gem" ]
]

"Gru"
[
[ "Beta Gru" "Epsilon Gru" ]
[ "Alpha Gru" "Beta Gru" "Iota Gru" "Theta Gru" "Delta1 Gru" "Alpha Gru" ]
[ "Zeta Gru" "Beta Gru" ]
[ "Alpha Gru" "Lambda Gru" "Gamma Gru"]
]

"Ercole"
[
[ "1 Her" "Phi Her" "Sigma Her" "Eta Her" "Zeta Her" "Beta Her" "Gamma Her" "Omega her" ]
[ "Tau Her" "Sigma Her" ]
[ "Delta Her" "Alpha Her" ]
[ "Iota Her" "Theta Her" "Rho Her" "Pi Her" "Eta Her" ]
[ "Pi Her" "Epsilon Her" "Zeta Her" ]
[ "Epsilon Her" "Delta Her" "Lambda Her" "Mu Her" "Xi Her" "Omicron Her" "Nu Her" ]
[ "Omicron Her" "109 Her" "110 Her" "111 Her" ]
[ "109 Her" "102 Her" ]
[ "110 Her" "113 Her" ]
]

"Orologio"
[
[ "Alpha Hor" "Iota Hor" "Eta Hor" "Zeta Hor" "Mu Hor" "Beta Hor" ]
]

"Idra"
[
[ "Pi Hya" "Gamma Hya" "Beta Hya" "Xi Hya" "Nu Hya" "Mu Hya" "Lambda Hya" "Upsilon2 Hya" "Upsilon1 Hya" "Alpha Hya" "Iota Hya" "Theta Hya" "Zeta Hya" "Eta Hya" "Sigma Hya" "Delta Hya" "Epsilon Hya" "Zeta Hya" ]
]

"Idra Maschio"
[
[ "Alpha Hyi" "Eta2 Hyi" "Delta Hyi" "Epsilon Hyi" "Gamma Hyi" "Nu Hyi" "Mu Hyi" "Beta Hyi" ]
]

"Indiano"
[
[ "Alpha Ind" "Theta Ind" "Delta Ind" ]
[ "Theta Ind" "Beta Ind" ]
]

"Lucertola"
[
[ "1 Lac" "Star Lac" "6 Lac" "2 Lac" "5 Lac" "4 Lac" "Alpha Lac" "Beta Lac" ]
]

"Leone"
[
[ "Delta Leo" "Gamma1 Leo" "35 Leo" "Mu Leo" "Epsilon Leo" "Eta Leo" "Theta Leo" "Delta Leo" ]
[ "Mu Leo" "Kappa Leo" "Lambda Leo" "Epsilon Leo" ]
[ "Eta Leo" "Omicron Leo" "5 Leo" ]
[ "Theta Leo" "Iota Leo" "Sigma Leo" ]
[ "Beta Leo" "Delta Leo" ]
[ "Eta Leo" "Alpha Leo" "Pi Leo" ]
[ "Rho Leo" "Theta Leo" ]
]

"Leone Minore"
[
[ "10 LMi" "21 LMi" "46 LMi" "Beta LMi" "21 LMi" ]
]

"Lepre"
[
[ "Alpha Lep" "Mu Lep" "Epsilon Lep" "Beta Lep" "Gamma Lep" "Delta Lep" "Eta Lep" "Zeta Lep" "Alpha Lep" ]
[ "Lambda Lep" "Mu Lep" "Kappa Lep" ]
]

"Bilancia"
[
[ "48 Lib" "Theta Lib" "Eta Lib" "Gamma Lib" "Beta Lib" "Alpha2 Lib" "Sigma Lib" "Upsilon Lib" "Tau Lib" ]
[ "Sigma Lib" "Beta Lib" ]
]

"Lupo"
[
[ "5 Lup" "Phi1 Lup" "Beta Lup" "Alpha Lup" "Pi Lup" "Lambda Lup" "Delta Lup" "Phi1 Lup" ]
[ "Theta Lup" "Eta Lup" "Phi1 Lup" "Gamma Lup" "Omega Lup" ]
[ "Zeta Lup" "Kappa1 Lup" "Pi Lup" ]
[ "Lambda Lup" "Epsilon Lup" "Mu Lup" ]
]

"Lince"
[
[ "Alpha Lyn" "38 Lyn" "31 Lyn" "21 Lyn" "15 Lyn" "2 Lyn" ]
]

"Lira"
[
[ "Gamma Lyr" "Delta1 Lyr" ]
[ "Zeta1 Lyr" "Beta Lyr" ]
[ "Alpha Lyr" "Kappa Lyr" "Beta Lyr" "Gamma Lyr" "Theta Lyr" "Eta Lyr" "Epsilon2 Lyr" "Alpha Lyr" ]
]

"Tavola"
[
[ "Alpha Men" "Gamma Men" "Eta Men" "Beta Men" ]
]

"Microscopio"
[
[ "Theta1 Mic" "Epsilon Mic" "Gamma Mic" "Alpha Mic" ]
]

"Unicorno"
[
[ "Alpha Mon" "Zeta Mon" "Delta Mon" "Beta Mon" "Gamma Mon" ]
[ "Delta Mon" "18 Mon" "8 Mon" "13 Mon" ]
]

"Mosca"
[
[ "Delta Mus" "Alpha Mus" "Gamma Mus" ]
[ "Beta Mus" "Alpha Mus" "Epsilon Mus" "Mu Mus" ]
]

"Squadra"
[
[ "Delta Nor" "Epsilon Nor" "Gamma2 Nor" "Gamma1 Nor" "Eta Nor" "Delta Nor" "Gamma2 Nor" ]
]

"Ottante"
[
[ "Delta Oct" "Nu Oct" "Epsilon Oct" "Beta Oct" "Delta Oct" ]
]

"Ofiuco"
[
[ "Zeta Oph" "Kappa Oph" "Alpha Oph" "Beta Oph" "Eta Oph" "Zeta Oph" ]
[ "Kappa Oph" "Iota Oph" "Delta Oph" "Epsilon Oph" ]
[ "Beta Oph" "Gamma Oph" "67 Oph" "70 Oph" ]
[ "Eta Oph" "40 Oph" "Theta Oph" "36 Oph" ]
[ "Zeta Oph" "Phi Oph" "7 Oph" "Omega Oph" "Rho Oph" ]
[ "Gamma Oph" "Nu Oph" ]
]

"Orione"
[
[ "Chi2 Ori" "Nu Ori" "Xi Ori" "68 Ori" "Chi2 Ori" ]
[ "Nu Ori" "Mu Ori" "Alpha Ori" "Zeta Ori" "Kappa Ori" "Beta Ori" "Delta Ori" "Gamma Ori" "Lambda Ori" "Alpha Ori" ]
[ "Gamma Ori" "Pi3 Ori" "Pi4 Ori" "Pi5 Ori" "Pi6 Ori" ]
[ "Pi3 Ori" "Pi2 Ori" "Pi1 Ori" "6 Ori" "Omicron2 Ori" "Omicron1 Ori" ]

]

"Pavone"
[
[ "Eta Pav" "Pi Pav" "Xi Pav" "Lambda Pav" "Pi Pav" ]
[ "Lambda Pav" "Kappa Pav" "Zeta Pav" "Epsilon Pav" "Delta Pav" "Kappa Pav"]
[ "Delta Pav" "Beta Pav" "Gamma Pav" "Alpha Pav" "Delta Pav"]
]

"Pegaso"
[
[ "Epsilon Peg" "Zeta Peg"]
[ "Theta Peg" "Zeta Peg" "Xi Peg" "Alpha Peg" "Gamma Peg" "Beta Peg" "Mu Peg" "Lambda Peg" ]
[ "1 Peg" "Kappa Peg" "Iota Peg" "Lambda Peg" ]
[ "Alpha Peg" "Lambda Peg" "Matar" "Pi Peg" ]
[ "Rho Peg" "Alpha Peg" "Sigma Peg" ]
[ "Zeta Peg" "Iota Peg" "9 Peg" ]
]

"Perseo"
[
[ "Alpha Per" "Gamma Per" "Eta Per" ]
[ "Gamma Per" "Tau Per" ]
[ "Epsilon Per" "Beta Per"]
[ "Alpha Per" "Iota Per" "Kappa Per" "Beta Per" "Rho Per" "20 Per" "16 Per" ]
[ "Alpha Per" "Psi Per" "Delta Per" "Nu Per" "Epsilon Per" "Xi Per" "Zeta Per" "Omicron Per" ]
[ "Delta Per" "48 Per" "Mu Per" "Lambda Per" ]
[ "Iota Per" "Theta Per" "Phi Per" ]
]

"Fenice"
[
[ "Delta Phe" "Gamma Phe" "Nu Phe" "Beta Phe" "Alpha Phe" "Epsilon Phe" "Eta Phe" "Zeta Phe" "Beta Phe" ]
[ "Epsilon Phe" "Iota Phe" "Sigma Phe" "Pi Phe" ]
]

"Pittore"
[
[ "Alpha Pic" "Gamma Pic" "Beta Pic" ]
]

"Pesci"
[
[ "Tau Psc" "Upsilon Psc" "Phi Psc" "Eta Psc" "Omicron Psc" "Alpha Psc" "Nu Psc" "Mu Psc" "Zeta Psc A" "Epsilon Psc" "Delta Psc" "Omega Psc" "Iota Psc" "Theta Psc" "Gamma Psc" "Kappa Psc" "Lambda Psc" "Iota Psc" ]
[ "Tau Psc" "Phi Psc" ]
]

"Pesce Australe"
[
[ "Alpha PsA" "Epsilon PsA" "Lambda PsA" "Theta PsA" "Iota PsA" "Mu PsA" "Beta PsA" "Gamma PsA" "Delta PsA" "Alpha PsA" ]
]

"Poppa"
[
[ "Xi Pup" "K Pup" "Pi Pup" "Nu Pup" "Tau Pup" "Sigma Pup" "Zeta Pup" "Rho Pup" "11 Pup" "Xi Pup" ]
]

"Bussola"
[
[ "Beta Pyx" "Alpha Pyx" "Gamma Pyx" ]
]

"Reticolo"
[
[ "Beta Ret" "Alpha Ret" "Epsilon Ret" "Iota Ret" "Delta Ret" "Beta Ret" ]
]

"Freccia"
[
[ "Eta Sge" "Gamma Sge" "Delta Sge" "Beta Sge" ]
[ "Delta Sge" "Alpha Sge" ]
]

"Sagittario"
[
[ "Mu Sgr" "Gamma Sgr" "Eta Sgr" "Epsilon Sgr" "Delta Sgr" "Lambda Sgr" "Mu Sgr"]
[ "Sigma Sgr" "37 Sgr" "Omicron Sgr" "Pi Sgr" "Rho1 Sgr" "Upsilon Sgr" ]
[ "Zeta Sgr" "Alpha Sgr" "Theta1 Sgr" "Tau Sgr" ]
[ "Lambda Sgr" "Delta Sgr" "Epsilon Sgr" "Eta Sgr" ]
[ "Delta Sgr" "Gamma Sgr" "3 Sgr" ]
[ "Phi Sgr" "Delta Sgr" ]
[ "Pi Sgr" "Tau Sgr" "Zeta Sgr" "Phi Sgr" "Sigma Sgr" "Tau Sgr" ]
[ "Iota Sgr" "Theta1 Sgr" "c Sgr" "Omega Sgr" ]
[ "Alpha Sgr" "Beta1 Sgr" "Beta2 Sgr" ]
]

"Scorpione"
[
[ "Sigma Sco" "Nu Sco" "Beta2 Sco" "Delta Sco" ]
[ "Beta2 Sco" "Omega1 Sco" ]
[ "Sigma Sco" "Alpha Sco" "Tau Sco" "Epsilon Sco" "Mu Sco" "Zeta Sco" "Eta Sco" "Theta Sco" "Iota1 Sco" "Kappa Sco" "Lambda Sco" "G Sco" ]
[ "Iota1 Sco" ]
[ "Sigma Sco" "Rho Sco" "Pi Sco" ]
]

"Scultore"
[
[ "Alpha Scl" "Iota Scl" "Delta Scl" "Gamma Scl" "Beta Scl" ]
]

"Scudo di Sobieski"
[
[ "Beta Sct" "Alpha Sct" "Gamma Sct" ]
[ "Alpha Sct" "Zeta Sct" ]
]

"Testa di Serpente"
[
[ "Mu Ser" "Omega Ser" "Epsilon Ser" "Alpha Ser" "Delta Ser" "Beta Ser" "Gamma Ser" "Kappa Ser" "Iota Ser" "Beta Ser" ]
]

"Coda di Serpente"
[
[ "Theta Ser" "Eta Ser" "Omicron Ser" "Xi Ser" "Nu Ser" ]
[ "Eta Ser" "Zeta Ser" ]
]

"Sestante"
[
[ "Beta Sex" "Alpha Sex" "Gamma Sex" ]
]

"Toro"
[
[ "Gamma Tau" "Lambda Tau" "Mu Tau" "Nu Tau" ]
[ "Lambda Tau" "5 Tau" "4 Tau" "Xi Tau" "Omicron Tau" ]
[ "Zeta Tau" "Alpha Tau" "Gamma Tau" "Delta1 Tau" "Epsilon Tau" "Beta Tau" ]
[ "Lambda Tau" "c Tau" "d Tau" ]
]

"Telescopio"
[
[ "Epsilon Tel" "Alpha Tel" "Zeta Tel" ]
[ "Alpha Tel" "Rho Tel" "Eta Tel" "Mu Tel" "Nu Tel" "Xi Tel" "Iota Tel" ]
]

"Triangolo"
[
[ "Alpha Tri" "Epsilon Tri" "Beta Tri" "Gamma Tri" "Alpha Tri" ]
]

"Triangolo Australe"
[
[ "Alpha TrA" "Beta TrA" "Epsilon TrA" "Gamma TrA" "Alpha TrA" ]
]

"Tucano"
[
[ "Delta Tuc" "Alpha Tuc" "Gamma Tuc" "Eta Tuc" ]
[ "Iota Tuc" "Beta1 Tuc" "Eta Tuc" "Epsilon Tuc" "Zeta Tuc" "Rho Tuc" "Beta1 Tuc" ]
[ "Gamma Tuc" "Nu Tuc" "Delta Tuc" ]
]

"Orsa Maggiore"
[
[ "Eta UMa" "Zeta UMa" "Epsilon UMa" "Delta UMa" "Gamma UMa" "Beta UMa" "Alpha UMa" "Delta UMa" ]
[ "Gamma UMa" "Chi UMa" "57 UMa" "55 UMa" ]
[ "Chi UMa" "Psi Uma" "34 UMa" "Lambda UMa" ]
[ "Alpha UMa" "23 UMa" "1 UMa" ]
[ "Beta UMa" "25 UMa" "12 Uma" ]
[ "9 UMa" "Theta UMa" ]
]

"Orsa Minore"
[
[ "Alpha UMi" "Delta UMi" "Epsilon UMi" "Zeta UMi" "Beta UMi" "Gamma UMi" "Eta UMi" "Zeta UMi" ]
[ "Beta UMi" "5 UMi" ]
]

"Vela"
[
[ "Mu Vel" "Psi Vel" "Lambda Vel" "HD 74772" "Gamma Vel" "Delta Vel" "Kappa Vel" "Phi Vel" "Mu Vel" ]
[ "Lambda Vel" "Kappa Vel" ]
]

"Vergine"
[
[ "Beta Vir" "Eta Vir" "Gamma Vir" "Delta Vir" "Epsilon Vir" ]
[ "Delta Vir" "Zeta Vir" "Alpha Vir" "Theta Vir" "Gamma Vir" ]
[ "Zeta Vir" "Tau Vir" "109 Vir" ]
[ "Alpha Vir" "Kappa Vir" "Iota Vir" "Mu Vir" ]
[ "Gamma Vir" "Omicron Vir" "3 Vir" "Beta Vir" ]
[ "Iota Vir" "Tau Vir" ]
]

"Pesce Volante"
[
[ "Alpha Vol" "Beta Vol" "Epsilon Vol" "Delta Vol" "Gamma Vol" "Zeta Vol" "Epsilon Vol" ]
]

"Volpetta"
[
[ "23 Vul" "15 Vul" "13 Vul" "Alpha Vul" "1 Vul" ]
]

As far as I understood "abnormal", she wants to see an italian version of Celestia, like my german-version (see section "Utilities" at: http://www.celestiamotherlode.net) that turns Celestia 1.3.1 into a german-speaking version.

Many teachers stops theirselves in front of an english software.

... so they would prefer an italian software, aren't they?

Adirondack

}{ wrote:You won't believe me.....I'm Italian too I made a translation...I italianized the file "asterisms.dat" and I changed some constellations' diagrams to make them more recognizable ( even though they aren't "official shapes" I like them )
Have a Look:! (create a new notepad file...paste this and rename it asterisms.dat)

Hello }{, nice to have the constellation names in Italian, but I prefer them in Latin.
First of all because the Latin names are universally accepted and recognized, and second because they are easily coupled with the relevant achronyms.
I mean, it's very easier to memorize "ANT- Antlia" than "ANT- Macchina Pneumatica", or "PYX-Pyxis" instead of "PYX-Bussola", don't you agree?
Only a suggestion, obviously.
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Andrea

Hello Foreigners,
When any of these files are completed, please upload them to the motherlode so that they are avialable for everyone.
Thanks,
Joe

First of all because the Latin names are universally accepted and recognized, and second because they are easily coupled with the relevant achronyms

I completely agree with you....but you can't forbid me some fun
There are only few names that differ from theyr achronyms...it's easy to remember them

In my opinion I prefer an italian translation to a fictional and immaginary 3d model or world or planetary system.

}{ wrote:I completely agree with you....but you can't forbid me some fun .

Obviously!

}{ wrote:[There are only few names that differ from theyr achronyms...it's easy to remember them

Are you sure? Here are the ones that differ consistently:
ANT- APS- ARA- CAE- CVN- CET- CHA- CIR- COM- CRT- CRU-EQU- HER- HYA- HYI- LAC- LIB-MEN- MON- MUS- NOR- PAE- PSC- PSA- PUP- PYX- SGE- SGR- TAU- VOL, but I can add many more, like UMi, UMa and so on.

}{ wrote:In my opinion I prefer an italian translation to a fictional and immaginary 3d model or world or planetary system.

This is another thing,and I can agree with you, but why not an Italian translation of text that really needs translation?
There are many many things that if translated could be more useful for Italian CELESTIANS (a doubt, is this a new definition, or someone has already used it?).
Why don't you try it?
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Andrea

Maybe only Mr Chris can finally solve this "question" ... I'm not a programmer who can make a good translation.....

Maybe celestia 1.6.0 wil be distributed in different languages

}{ wrote:Maybe only Mr Chris can finally solve this "question" ... I'm not a programmer who can make a good translation...

Absolutely no need to be a programmer.
Bob Hegwood made a wonderful text named "Virtual Textures for dummies", Frank M. Gregorio his "Celestia User’s Guide", Don Goyette the "Celestia .cel scripting guide" and so on, and their translations would be surely very useful.
Surely each of them needs time, but not a programmer's ability.
Will you make a try?
You can find most or all of them in the Motherlode web page.
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Andrea

Ciao Andrea!

I think I am the "creator" of the term "celestian" (no copyright! )
In fact sometimes I begin posts with "Hi Celestians!", but frankly I don't know if someone else ever used that term
I'll search about it...

Pierluigi

piellepi wrote:Ciao Andrea!
I think I am the "creator" of the term "celestian" (no copyright! )
In fact sometimes I begin posts with "Hi Celestians!", but frankly I don't know if someone else ever used that term
I'll search about it... Pierluigi

Damn...!
I supposed to be the first one!
Well, this is the life.

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Andrea