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Shuttle model

Posted: 27.01.2003, 20:11
by bh
There is a shuttle model available.

Unfortunately its mesh is slightly damaged at the nose section and it's on some sort of launchpad... and it's green!! I don't know if anyone could rework this model for Celestia.

http://www.spaceislandgroup.com/SIDG/3dmodels.html

Posted: 28.01.2003, 03:14
by Darkmiss
Okay all converted.

I took away the launch pad, and made two versions,
Space Shuttle, with booster rockets and fuel tank. And a Space Shuttle on it own.
Sorry, No ssc files for these, as this is not my field just yet. :?

The only problem, is that no textures work after being converted to 3ds

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Here is the Space Shuttler zip
http://www.bt.homepage.btinternet.co.uk/Files/Space-Shuttle.zip

also I found a nice new version of the International Space Station.
again, no textures but the model is very nice.
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here is the new ISS file http://www.bt.homepage.btinternet.co.uk/Files/ISS.zip


Enjoy...

Posted: 28.01.2003, 12:19
by bh
Paul...

Great work on the shuttle model. I have it up there with the Hubble.

"Shuttle" "Sol/Earth/Hubble"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Mesh "NewShuttle.3ds"
Radius 0.020

EllipticalOrbit
{
Period 1.1
SemiMajorAxis 0.15
Eccentricity 0.01
Inclination 93.1
}

Albedo 0.10
}

Not sure if the scale is correct, but it looks great.

Posted: 28.01.2003, 14:12
by Darkmiss
you are most welcome, bh

if anyone can modify the code for me so that the shuttle doesn't rotate
and just stays upsidedown (if that is how it should be ?)

could somone make a ssc file for tthe SpaceShuttle with the boster rockets
to make it within the earths atmosphere pointing staight up and in sync with the earths rotation, so it looks like it is taking off. ?

Posted: 29.01.2003, 19:15
by bh
Paul...

Is it possible to have a version of the shuttle with the cargo bay doors open?!

Posted: 29.01.2003, 22:10
by Darkmiss
I don't have a modeling program
I have a model viewing program, that converts models types.

I can re-colour (some parts) and remove parts,
but that is pretty much it.

I can remove the doors all together, but it just looks silly

Posted: 29.01.2003, 22:20
by bh
Worth a try... ISS looks pretty damn fine too...

Regards, Bob.

Posted: 31.01.2003, 20:04
by bh
The shuttle model we have from the space island group's site is pretty close (great conversion Paul). But needs some more work.

The model as it stands is too long and narrow. See pics:

It also needs the two manoevering engines adding. Also I am keen to make another version with the cargo bay doors open.

Are these mods possible or do we start again from scratch? Does anyone know of some 3d modelling software I could use to edit the model? I'm running xp. Or perhaps one of you with experience of this would like to give it a try?

We've been waiting a long time for this model and it would be well worth the effort I'm sure.

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Model at present
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This is more like it
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Side view of present model
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Note shortened nose and fuselage raised slightly

Regards...bh

Posted: 01.02.2003, 00:39
by granthutchison
Darkmiss wrote:if anyone can modify the code for me so that the shuttle doesn't rotate and just stays upsidedown (if that is how it should be ?)

Having it in orbit around Hubble is what's creating the rotation. The following definition keeps the two together in orbit around the Earth, with the shuttle doors orientated towards Hubble. (I've placed the shuttle nose-down because I liked the look of that, rather than out of any knowledge of the correct orientation during the Hubble repair.) There's a slight residual (and realistic!) to-and-fro motion between Hubble and the shuttle because of their elliptical orbits.

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"Shuttle" "Sol/Earth"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Mesh "Shuttle.3ds"
Radius 0.020

EllipticalOrbit {
   Period          0.06903
   SemiMajorAxis   6767
   Eccentricity    0.0012082
   Inclination      28.4675
   AscendingNode    51.0102
   ArgOfPericenter  27.0378
   MeanAnomaly     333.0836
   Epoch           2452028.18381755
}
   Orientation [-90 0 0 1]

   Albedo 0.10
}


Grant

PS: To increase the separation between Hubble and the shuttle, just increase AscendingNode slightly - in the fourth decimal place.

Posted: 01.02.2003, 00:44
by granthutchison
Darkmiss wrote:could somone make a ssc file for tthe SpaceShuttle with the boster rockets to make it within the earths atmosphere pointing staight up and in sync with the earths rotation, so it looks like it is taking off. ?
Same problem as with the LEM on another thread - the only place that it'll stay synced is (unrealistically) on the equator. In any sort of inclined orbit it'll lollop around in a huge figure-of-eight centred on the equator.

Grant

Posted: 01.02.2003, 02:35
by granthutchison
Oh well, why not?
Here's the shuttle climbing through 5km altitude after some bizarrely improbable launch from the Indian Ocean - if you adjust MeanLongitude and RotationOffset in synch, you can position it anywhere along the equator you like, while maintaining the correct orientation relative to the horizon. You can also ramp the altitude up or down by adding to or subtracting from the SemiMajorAxis - but 45km is the highest the whole assembly goes before the solid-fuel boosters are jettisoned.

I've included a 30-degree "lay-back" - the stack rotates shortly after launch so that the shuttle is tilted slightly beneath the main tank.

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"ShuttleLaunch" "Sol/Earth"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Mesh "SpaceShuttle.3ds"
Radius 0.03

EllipticalOrbit {
   Period          0.997269558 #synch
   SemiMajorAxis   6383 #5km altitude
   MeanLongitude   0 #90 degrees east
}
   Orientation [-90 0 0 1]
   RotationOffset 30 #30 degree lay-back at 90 degrees east
           #if MeanLongitude is altered,
           #alter RotationOffset by same amount
   
   Albedo 0.10
}


Grant

Posted: 01.02.2003, 03:17
by Darkmiss
Thank you grant
works great

Posted: 01.02.2003, 15:27
by Darkmiss
Sad, Sad day indeed, for the space shuttle and all the crew

:cry:

Posted: 04.02.2003, 10:09
by bh
Paul...

I need to know which model viewer you are using and where can I get it.

Posted: 04.02.2003, 23:41
by Darkmiss
okay, it Deep Exploration
and can be found here http://www.righthemisphere.com/products/dexp/index.htm

Posted: 05.02.2003, 19:37
by bh
Thanks for the link Paul.

I was in a reflective mood doing this, still...
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I've shortened the fuselage, but the nose is still too long. The doors could be better but I guess we'll have to wait for Shrox to come up with something. Also on the zip is a new version of Doug Gann's lem model and an ascent stage only model.

http://www.rhundley.freeserve.co.uk/columbia.zip

Regards to all...bh.

Posted: 05.02.2003, 21:31
by Darkmiss
Nice work. did you do this with Deap Exploration ?
if so, you learn faster than I.

I also noticed you added the extra thrusters too.

Posted: 06.02.2003, 10:18
by bh
Idid the work on the shuttle model with Amapi and then used deep exploration to do the colouring. It really is a nice piece of kit.

I will do a full set of shuttle models (3) ?? over the weekend.

Regards...bh.

Posted: 10.02.2003, 19:16
by bh
Here is a zip with two shuttle models, doors open and doors closed.

http://www.rhundley.freeserve.co.uk/columbia.zip

Regards to all...

Posted: 11.02.2003, 23:03
by bh
Hi... sorry about this. Disregard my last post.
Here are the latest mods.
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I've shortened the nose, raised and widened the fuselage...hope it's OK, these will prob be my last mods to this model.

Regards to all...
http://www.rhundley.freeserve.co.uk/columbia.zip