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Highly unstable

Posted: 01.09.2004, 05:39
by strit
I don't know what it is with version 1.3.2...
The 1.3.1 version worked great but this one crashes ALL the time. As soon as I click on a menu the whole 3D engine seems to collapse and either disappears or just stops working (rotation/goto impossible etc).
Have anyone else experienced the same problem?
Unfortunately, I think I'll have to stick with 1.3.1.

My system:
Processor: PIII 450
Graphics: Oxygen VX1, 32 MB
RAM: 512 MB

Posted: 01.09.2004, 08:26
by gr8eagle8
I've had a problem too in that when I select a menu item Celestia seems to freeze for a while or sometimes ages and have to 'Alt+F4' it off.

Also do you have problems with 'right-clicking' anything. I have to do it numerouse times accasionally (and soemtimes it workes 1st time :? ).

Don't know what could be wrong....

Posted: 01.09.2004, 13:16
by strit
gr8eagle8 wrote:I've had a problem too in that when I select a menu item Celestia seems to freeze for a while or sometimes ages and have to 'Alt+F4' it off.

Also do you have problems with 'right-clicking' anything. I have to do it numerouse times accasionally (and soemtimes it workes 1st time :? ).

Don't know what could be wrong....


Yeah, right-clicking doesn't seem to work for some objects (e.g. not Cassini) and the program constantly freezes, this often involves a crash of the entire 3D engine thus making the desktop under it is visible. Tthe only thing I can do is to force Windows to kill it...

Forgot to write that I use Win2k, if that may be the cause.

What does your system look like?

Posted: 01.09.2004, 14:08
by selden
I'm not currently seeing these problems with v1.3.2final under XP sp2.

When running some of the later prereleases in full screen mode under sp1, I did often see menu pauses, but the menus appeared after a second or two.

I just now tested pre7 and pre11 under sp2 and do not see the pauses.

I also do not have any problem with right-mouse-button selections of Cassini and "Huygens (with Cassini)"

This kind of inconsistant behavior is very hard to debug :(

Don't forget, though, that Celestia depends on your 3D graphics driver not having bugs in the OpenGL routines that it claims to support. Make sure you are running the very most recent driver releases from the manufacturer of your card. The routines used by bumpmapping and specular reflections are relatively new OpenGL functions. Some companies are only just now starting to provide support for vertex shader routines, so they're prone to be buggy.

Also, please follow the suggestions in the first several Q/As in the Preliminary User's FAQ.

System:
512MB 2.4MHz P4, WinXP Pro SP2
128mb nVidia FX 5200, Forceware v61.76, OpenGL v1.5.1
Celestia v1.3.2 final

Posted: 02.09.2004, 11:26
by Guest
I tried everything in the Preliminary User's FAQ, but nothing worked. I have to most recent driver -- but this is an old card and the latest driver came out in 2002. It's based on some driver called GLINT which I'm afraid is not really considedered one of the big standards (Debian started including this driver just a couple of years ago).

Turning of OpenGL in celestia.cfg makes no difference and pulling down the hardware acceleration to a minimum still causes freezes (without menus and and windows getting stuck on my screen though). The "Select object" function is the main problem. I can press all buttons from 1-9 and press G to go there, but when I choose "Select object", write e.g. "Jupiter" and press go. It always freezes (with the menu that I first clicked on stuck on my screen).

Posted: 02.09.2004, 12:06
by strit
Anonymous wrote:I tried everything in the Preliminary User's FAQ, but nothing worked. I have to most recent driver -- but this is an old card and the latest driver came out in 2002. It's based on some driver called GLINT which I'm afraid is not really considedered one of the big standards (Debian started including this driver just a couple of years ago).

Turning of OpenGL in celestia.cfg makes no difference and pulling down the hardware acceleration to a minimum still causes freezes (without menus and and windows getting stuck on my screen though). The "Select object" function is the main problem. I can press all buttons from 1-9 and press G to go there, but when I choose "Select object", write e.g. "Jupiter" and press go. It always freezes (with the menu that I first clicked on stuck on my screen).


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