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Stars as Points crash...

Posted: 21.04.2002, 10:47
by Rassilon
CELESTIA caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:0058e13e.
Registers:
EAX=99b3e6ff CS=0167 EIP=0058e13e EFLGS=00010206
EBX=005223b4 SS=016f ESP=0070f2d0 EBP=c2f055e5
ECX=0000024f DS=016f ESI=00b9f000 FS=33b7
EDX=c0e9aa5d ES=016f EDI=e15516f4 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 06 8b 56 04 89 47 10 89 57 14 81 c7 18 00 00
Stack dump:
00000004 00578cbc 00000000 00000010 00000253 005223b4 e155175c 000001fe 000005ad 00000055 6970ebd7 005223b4 e1550f58 000001fe 00000055 00000800

Under Win 98 SE with GeForce Ti200 64 Meg...

I no longer use XP...Piece of %&$# Microsoft beta test garbage in the trash where it remains...

And now that Im stuck using Win 98 again it happens every time I select stars as points and go to any planets...

btw, what is the deal with Linux...Can I have a dual boot with 98 on a different partition...and how much is Red Hat? I am...sick...of microsoft...Ive had it...I wish I were rich and could buy a Mac :evil:

Posted: 21.04.2002, 14:38
by mt_sabao
You can download Red Hat for free, or you can buy the distribution.
And yes, you can have the two OS installed, and you choose at boot. I have both XP and red Hat 7.2 in my laptop, and red hat works wonderfully,i really recomend it.

Posted: 21.04.2002, 18:23
by Rassilon
Cool...but the bad part is that there is so little support for Red Hat applications and well applications in general...that I might be better off sticking with the evil overlord Gates ware ;)...Frustrated am I when in this monopoly there can be only one...*Wishes Amigas were more supported and still around*

I will look into this! Thanks for the info...

Posted: 21.04.2002, 18:36
by t00fri
Rassilon wrote:Cool...but the bad part is that there is so little support for Red Hat applications and well applications in general...that I might be better off sticking with the evil overlord Gates ware ;)...Frustrated am I when in this monopoly there can be only one...*Wishes Amigas were more supported and still around*

I will look into this! Thanks for the info...


There are no "Red Hat applications". All applications are written by authors from all over the internet. If you have a problem, ask with Goggle in the use groups and you usually get the solution much faster than with any commercial OS/application!

Fridger

PS: What is important is that under /any/ Linux distribution, the NVIDIA drivers are directly from NVIDIA and thus always uptodate and working /very/ well.

Posted: 21.04.2002, 18:37
by t00fri
Rassilon wrote:Cool...but the bad part is that there is so little support for Red Hat applications and well applications in general...that I might be better off sticking with the evil overlord Gates ware ;)...Frustrated am I when in this monopoly there can be only one...*Wishes Amigas were more supported and still around*

I will look into this! Thanks for the info...


There are no "Red Hat applications". All applications are written by authors from all over the internet. If you have a problem, ask with Goggle in the use groups and you usually get the solution much faster than with any commercial OS/application!

Fridger

PS: What is important is that under /any/ Linux distribution, the NVIDIA drivers are directly from NVIDIA and thus always uptodate and working /very/ well.

You could also try...

Posted: 21.04.2002, 18:55
by bruckner
Hi, Rassilon!

I left Windows a long time ago (win95) in a rage of frustration, and I have only had wonderful experiences with Linux and its various flavors (distros) from then on. I feel I'm more empowered this way, as you can control each and every bit of your system...

There is a downside, however: what if you don't want that level of control? Well, that happened to me not long ago. I was using Debian (Potato) and found that I spent more time administering and tinkering in general that doing actual work. Don't get me wrong, Debian is *the cleanest* distro out there, with a fantastic number of packages available and wonderful community based support, but it was a bit too rigid for me. I changed over to Mandrake (8.1), perhaps not as rock-solid (99.9% as opposed to 99.999999...% of Debian) but more manageable in a lot of respects.

I have tested lots of versions of Redhat, Debian and Mandrake, and I've found this one to be the easiest one on newbies. Perhaps you'd like to give it a spin, but anyway be prepared to learn (a lot). No transition is painless.

The only gripe with Linux so far is the lack of acceptable 3D modeling software. Does anyone know of a good 3D modeler able to output 3ds files for Linux? I've looked everywhere with no luck. For every other task, there are from good replacements to outright superior alternatives to Windows apps, most of the time with reasonable levels of compatibility built in. And for the support, don't fear... Linux apps (and Linux itself) has the better support available: the community. We are out there in the hundred of thousands, and willing to help. Just be sure to RTFM (or make a honest try, at least) before asking :wink: ...

Last time I booted into Windows was two years ago, and my system has wonderful uptimes (in fact, I recall just a hard reset in the last year, due to a documented instability with my new GeForce3 drivers and my motherboard which I was able to solve right away just by editing a text file and copying a value...) If my web site is offline, its always due to routing difficulties of my ISP, or a power outage while I'm not at home -we have had some lately-.

I encourage you to try. You might like it...

Best regards.

Bruckner

Posted: 22.04.2002, 01:02
by Ortolan
The only gripe with Linux so far is the lack of acceptable 3D modeling software. Does anyone know of a good 3D modeler able to output 3ds files for Linux?

Does Blender output in 3ds format? I haven't tried it yet so I don't know.

Posted: 22.04.2002, 07:17
by Rassilon
Thanks Bruckner...I have so little time to spare and what little time I do...goes into Celestia...Its a future prospect for me to get into Linux...and well without 3d modeling support I would be lost :P

I only wish that Commodore were still around as the Amiga computers were so way ahead of thier time...and so very stable...now sadly they go unnoticed in the annuals of computer history...but then maybe they could someday make a comeback...

In fact, no

Posted: 22.04.2002, 07:18
by bruckner
Unfortunately, Blender doesn't output 3ds (it does VRML and DXF, however). Any conversion tools?

(Btw.: I realize Blender is the best alternative, Linux-wise, for 3d modelling. A bit unwieldy on me--I'm a total 3d newbie, and I just want to shape up some asteroids!)

Regards.

Bruckner

Posted: 22.04.2002, 08:27
by Ortolan
Apparently Wings3D (http://www.wings3d.org) can read & write 3DS files, but it's rendering abilities are limited at the moment.