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tumors on objects

Post #1by eafbsd » 04.09.2011, 18:03

In 1.6.1 (Navigation - Solar System Browser) Mercury, Metis, Adraster, and Thede, at that point I figured I went far enough, these bodies have tumors growing out of two sides. Has there been a correction for this problem that I missed??? Any solution would be appreciated.... eafbsd

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #2by selden » 04.09.2011, 18:08

Could you upload a screengrab?

It's not a known bug: I don't see anything like that. Might you have installed an Addon which defines them with slightly different orbits? Both definitions would be drawn simultaneously, causing the appearance of an object with lobes.


p.s. It's also consistent with Celestia seeing multiple solarsys.ssc definitions, from before and after the orbital definitions were changed to be with respect to the solar system barycenter. Did you install the new version without uninstalling one or more previous versions of Celestia? While multiple installed versions can co-exist if they're in completely different directories, you also have to be careful not to partially overwrite a previous installation.
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Re: tumors on objects

Post #3by eafbsd » 04.09.2011, 19:42

Selden, what I did was I downloaded the 1.6.1 version to a brand new flash drive, copied my old add-ons (extras, textures, data, and models), that to the best of my knowledge where working perfectly, to the flash drive and went from there. When I started the 1.6.1 "Navigation - Solar System Browser" was when I ran into my problem. It wasn't on every graphic, but mainly seemed to be on the asteroid .jpg.

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #4by selden » 04.09.2011, 20:47

The first thing to do is to try Celestia with no Addons at all. I suspect one of the Addons is doing something that's not compatible.

Also, please attach a screengrab of what you see. The details of what it looks like will help to debug the problem. Otherwise, I can only guess.

You can use Celestia's "File --> Capture Image" menu or your favorite screengrab utility to create the image to be attached to your posting. The menu for uploading an attachment to the Forum is immediately below the Submit button when you're composing a message to the Forum.
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Re: tumors on objects

Post #5by John Van Vliet » 04.09.2011, 21:42

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #6by eafbsd » 04.09.2011, 23:12

I need some help here, not being a social network kind of guy. I've captured the image, displayed it with LViewPro, but for the life of me I can't get it to appear in the box. Help me if you can I'm feeling down, and I do appreciate your being around...

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #7by abramson » 04.09.2011, 23:21

eafbsd wrote:I need some help here, not being a social network kind of guy. I've captured the image, displayed it with LViewPro, but for the life of me I can't get it to appear in the box. Help me if you can I'm feeling down, and I do appreciate your being around...

When you are composing your post, look beneath the three buttons "save preview submit". There is a tab labeled "upload attachment". Click on it. You'll see two buttonss, une ot browse (your computer for the screenshot), the other to add (upload) the file, which will appear attached to your post. No social skills needed.

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #8by eafbsd » 05.09.2011, 02:11

Metis with tumors.jpg
Okay, this should be the jpg of Metis

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #9by abramson » 05.09.2011, 03:02

Thanks, Eaf. I bet that's a duplicate definition. You have two models for Metis. the outer one is the standard Celestia one. So the inner one, which is partially protruding from the obtuse part of the ellipsoid, must be another one. Look for it in your extras folder. Just keep the one you prefer, and delete/comment out/move away the other. I don't think anybody knows how Metis really is, anyway.

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #10by eafbsd » 06.09.2011, 04:12

Abramson, My 1.6.1 "Navigation - Solar System Browser" contains: Jupiter = 7 duplicate files, Saturn = 5 dupes, Uranus = 10 dupes, Neptune = 9 dupes, and lower on the scroll down of that list there are 10 additional duplications. I've everything I could think of, Extras, Textures, Data, Models, solarsys.ssc, etc looking for a reason... The only thing I can come up with is if there is any way to get into the "Navigaton - Solar System Browser" itself and manually delete the duplications. Is this possible? Is there any other way?

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #11by abramson » 06.09.2011, 13:18

You cannot delete the dublicates from the Solar System Browser. The only way to clean up things is to search every definition that you have in .ssc files. These files contain definitions for solar system objetcs. The basic ones are found in the data folder. One of them is solarsys.ssc, which contains the planets and major moons. Metis is not defined there but in minormoons.ssc. If you have not tampered with these, or added new iles in the data folder, you can leave them as they are.

Then you have the extras folder. There the user is advised to put new catalogs, addons etc. If you want to find a duplicate, that's the place to look for it, in every .ssc found in extras and below.

One you find the culprit you have two choices: either remove the addon (if you don't like it) or keep it. If you want to keep it, do not remove the original definition (the one in the data folder). Instead, make your alternate definition look something like this:

Modify "Jupiter" "Sol" {
Texture "super-cool-jupiter-that-i-like-best.*"
}

The "Modify" identifier in an ssc makes Celestia replace one definition by the other, so there are no duplicates. Please refer to the celestia wikibook for a detailed descritpion of the ssc possibilites.

In any case, you will have to find the duplicates yourself. Their placement depend on what you have done in your system.

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #12by eafbsd » 06.09.2011, 14:39

I searched and searched and finally found the bad guy. It's a download called "Major Asteroids 1.3.2 Zip", by Jestr, dated 3/14/2005. I tried searching for the individual files and deleting them, but ended by blowing everything up and starting over with a new download of 1.6.1 I want to thank all of you for your help - I couldn't get without some help from my friends, I wouldn't even try...

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Re: tumors on objects

Post #13by abramson » 06.09.2011, 15:07

You don't need to seach manually. There are tools to seach automatically for strings of text within all (or a class of) files within a branch of folders. The search tool that comes with Total comander does it, and it's the one I use. But there are many, for all tastes.


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