Bob,
You have two separate problems.
One is due to poor design of the [enter] selection method. I think its "tab completion" feature needs to be redesigned.
The other is due to mixing the three sets of StarWars SSC files together in the same directory. That can't work.
Please look at the contents of Celestia's console log: it contains some relevant error mesages. Type a tilde (~) to toggle it on and off. Type the up and down arrow keys to navigate in it.
You will find that the three SSC files are being loaded in the wrong order. When they're in the same folder, Celestia loads SSC files in alphabetical order. Since you mixed the SSC files together in the same directory, it loads A-Wing.ssc before it loads StarWars.ssc. Endor is not yet defined when the Awing definition tries to use it. As a result, Celestia doesn't know where to place the A-Wing and has to discard it.
BobHegwood wrote:Selden,
Before I restarted this investigation, I removed all Starwars
add-ons from my system, and then I followed your instructions
EXACTLY and TO THE LETTER with no joy. I can still not locate
and/or see the A-Wing or the B-Wing.
Here's a possible clue as to the cause though...
When I try to use the ENTER-TYPE NAME-ENTER method to go to
the star HD 143761, I simply do NOT have the option to select
this star. In fact, there is only ONE HD entry available to select,
and it is HD 178911 B
I'm a little confused by your description. Do you mean that while you're typing
[enter]HD 14...
no list of similar names appears at the bottom of the screen?
If so, that lack is as expected and is as designed.
The HD numbers are digital catalog entries in Celestia, they aren't Star Names. Only textual Star Names are listed in the "tab completion list" when the [enter] selection method is used. Star Names are defined using quoted strings in STC files. Some HD, HIP and SAO values are shown and cause confusion because people have defined them as textual Star Names in STC files. They happen to look the same as catalog number designations, but really aren't the same.
The only way I can get to the system is by entering Rho Crb.
Could this be my (and others) problem with these add-ons?
No..
The "tab completion" list never shows matching HD, HIP or SAO catalog numbers. Just because a Star's catalog number is not listed in the "tab completion list" does not mean you can't use it. You can still select HD catalog numbers: just finish typing the entire, correct HD catalog number and follow it by another [enter]. It'll work fine.
My directory is setup EXACTLY like it was before I started this
mess too, which means that I had already done what you
suggested in your instructions concerning the textures and
models.
My installation ends up in the following order:
C:\Program Files\Celestia\extras\StarWars\
contains the ssc files and the models and textures folders which
contain everything placed as you described.
Bob, sorry, but that's *not* what I described.
To be exact, the C:\Program Files\Celestia\extras\StarWars\models
folder contains Awing.3ds, Bwing.3ds and dstar.3ds
C:\Program Files\Celestia\extras\StarWars\textures\medres
contains AWT1.JPG, AWT4.JPG, AW-TEXT2.JPG, AW-TEXT3.JPG,
BWCPIT.JPG, BWHULL.JPG, BWWING.JPG, DS_01.JPG, DS_02.JPG,
DS_BODY.JPG, DSTRENCH.JPG, Endor.jpg, TatBump.jpg and
Tatooine.jpg.
My procedure says to put the Awing and Bwing Addons directly into the extras folder, *not* into the StarWars folder. When you look in the \extras\ folder you should see the three folders
\StarWars\
\SW-Awing\
\SW-Bwing\
Since StarWars is alphabetically before SW-..., its content gets loaded first. Endor gets defined before Awing and Bwing need to use it.
Do not separate their pieces and merge them into the StarWars folder. Mixing the three Addons together is causing the problem. If you really want to mix them together, then you must either rename the SSC files so they have the correct alphabetic order or you must edit them into one single SSC file with the Awing and Bwing definitions down below the Endor definition.
Don't know what else to do here, but I guess the question is why
can't I get to the HD star, but I can get to Rho Crb.
See above
One other note... The X-Wing add-on around the Death Star
DOES work, and I can see absolutely NO differences in the setup
except that the X-Wing is in orbit around the Death Star, rather
than Endor.
Sorry my friend, but I'm at my wits end here.
Thanks, Brain-Dead Bob
One issue when mixing Addons with separate SSC files is that Celestia has to load their SSC files in the correct order. If Celestia loads the Awing SSC before it loads the Endor SSC, then it can't work. In this case, at the time the Awing SSC is loaded, Endor is unknown, so Celestia has to discard the Awing.
These kinds of problems are indicated in Celestia's "console log". (see the top of this message) It'll complain that the "parent body" is undefined.
