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Object Comparison
Posted: 25.08.2019, 01:11
by Anthony_B_Russo10
This addon compares the sizes of all the Solar System asteroids in Celestia, along with 3 comets, the 9 Major bodies, a Brown Dwarf, Teegarden's Star, Proxima Cen, Alpha Cen B, Sol, Sirius A, Procyon, Rigel, and an O type star. The folder contains two builds, one for 1.6.1 with the brown dwarf with spectral type T9, and one for 1.7.0 with the brown dwarf at its correct spectral type of Y2.
The above image is of the 1.7.0 build.
These are of the 1.6.1 build.
Posted: 25.08.2019, 01:18
by Joey P.
Nice!
Posted: 25.08.2019, 01:19
by Joey P.
What about putting the Danny Phantom stars in it?
Posted: 25.08.2019, 01:22
by Joey P.
Remember this older one comparing various giant stars including the red giant Sun?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11257&p=145647#p145647
Posted: 25.08.2019, 01:34
by Sirius_Alpha
Joey P. wrote:What about putting the Danny Phantom stars in it?
The point of the add-on was to compare the sizes of various (real) astrophysical objects.
Posted: 25.08.2019, 01:44
by Lafuente_Astronomy
Joey P. wrote:What about putting the Danny Phantom stars in it?
You can make your own comparison thread with the fictional stars you've made. This one's for real objects, as what Sirius_Alpha said.
Posted: 25.08.2019, 02:04
by Joey P.
Also, the object comparison is right behind Alpha Centauri as seen from Earth, but its combined apparent and absolute magnitudes are so bright that Alpha Centauri is lost in the glare.
Posted: 25.08.2019, 02:20
by Anthony_B_Russo10
I upped the distance of the barycenter to 1000 light years.
Posted: 25.08.2019, 02:36
by Joey P.
Nice
Posted: 28.08.2019, 21:32
by Joey P.
This is the code for a modification that slightly changes the position of the comparison and turns the base star into Danny Phantom (though 12 times smaller than he should be). It also adds "2" to the stars involved so that they are not involved in anything else.
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Barycenter "Object Compare"
{
RA 220.899437 # mass ratio 1.12:0.93
Dec -70.835401 #
Distance 1000.365
}
"Daniel Danny Fenton 2:Danny Phantom 2:Danny Clone:Daniel Fenton 2:Daniel 2:Danny 2:Danny Fenton 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "Q"
AbsMag 4.9
Texture "bstar.*"
Radius 1.0
EllipticalOrbit {
Period 79.85
SemiMajorAxis 00.00 # mass ratio 1.12:0.93
Eccentricity 0.00
Inclination 00.00
AscendingNode 00.00
ArgOfPericenter 0.00
MeanAnomaly 000.00
}
}
"WISEPA J182831.08+265037.8"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.00573587709
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.1000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
SpectralType "T9"
AbsMag 8.83
Radius 85790.4
Texture "browndwarf.jpg"
UniformRotation
{
Period 609.12 # 25.38 days
Inclination 7.25
AscendingNode 75.77
MeridianAngle 23.00 # standard meridian
}
}
"Teegarden's Star 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M6.5V"
AppMag 15.14
Radius 88392
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.007072794519
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Proxima Cen 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M5.0V"
AppMag 11.05
Radius 107323.2
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.009078170656
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"ALF cen B 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "K1V"
AppMag 1.34
Radius 600787.2
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.0170996752
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Sol 2:Sun 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.02645809717
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
SpectralType "G2V"
AbsMag 4.83
UniformRotation
{
Period 609.12 # 25.38 days
Inclination 7.25
AscendingNode 75.77
MeridianAngle 23.00 # standard meridian
}
}
"Sirius A 2:Alhabor A 2:ALF CMa A 2:9 CMa A 2:Gliese 244 A 2:ADS 5423 A 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "A1V"
AppMag -1.43
Radius 1340000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.04210003104
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Procyon A 2:Elgomaisa A 2:ALF CMi A 2:10 CMi A 2:Gliese 280 A 2:ADS 6251 A 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "F5IV"
AppMag 0.37
Radius 1425408
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.06656561991
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Rigel 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "B8I-a"
AppMag -36.25
Radius 50500000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.454271673
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Pismis 24-1 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "O3"
AppMag -38.68
Radius 149000000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 2.11873386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
Posted: 29.08.2019, 20:56
by Fafers_br
Talking about object comparison, and apologizing for drifting a little offtopic, this topic reminded me of an issue I observed in my Celestia 1.6.0 (Yes, I know...).
Once upon a time, in a not so far away galaxy, I had the idea of making a comparison of object sizes putting them side by side in a vertically splited view. To my total surprise, I observed that a Brown Dwarf with a radius of 74400Km was visually larger than a planet with a radius of 78171Km, both seen from the same distance and FOV. Please, see the image below.
Well, I figured out that the issue arises in the planet side. When one calculates the angular diameter for the Brown Dwarf, the value is correct. The same does not happen to the planet. The angular diameter of the planet should be ~27°52' using the equation:
angdiam=2arcsin[diameter/(2*dist)]
But as you can see in the image, the apparent diameter of the planet, given by Celestia, is ~22°23'.
Is this an issue? Or a silly mistake of mine?
Posted: 30.08.2019, 00:32
by Anthony_B_Russo10
It's fine.
Posted: 30.08.2019, 19:29
by Joey P.
This update adds more stars:
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Barycenter "Object Compare"
{
RA 220.899437 # mass ratio 1.12:0.93
Dec -70.835401 #
Distance 1000.365
}
"Daniel Danny Fenton 2:Danny Phantom 2:Danny Clone:Daniel Fenton 2:Daniel 2:Danny 2:Danny Fenton 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "Q"
AbsMag 4.9
Texture "daniel.*"
Radius 1.0
EllipticalOrbit {
Period 79.85
SemiMajorAxis 00.00 # mass ratio 1.12:0.93
Eccentricity 0.00
Inclination 00.00
AscendingNode 00.00
ArgOfPericenter 0.00
MeanAnomaly 000.00
}
}
"WISEPA J182831.08+265037.8"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.00573587709
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.1000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
SpectralType "T9"
AbsMag 8.83
Radius 85790.4
Texture "browndwarf.jpg"
UniformRotation
{
Period 609.12 # 25.38 days
Inclination 7.25
AscendingNode 75.77
MeridianAngle 23.00 # standard meridian
}
}
"Teegarden's Star 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M6.5V"
AppMag 15.14
Radius 88392
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.007072794519
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Proxima Cen 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M5.0V"
AppMag 11.05
Radius 107323.2
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.009078170656
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"ALF cen B 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "K1V"
AppMag 1.34
Radius 600787.2
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.0170996752
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Sol 2:Sun 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.02645809717
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
SpectralType "G2V"
AbsMag 4.83
UniformRotation
{
Period 609.12 # 25.38 days
Inclination 7.25
AscendingNode 75.77
MeridianAngle 23.00 # standard meridian
}
}
"Sirius A 2:Alhabor A 2:ALF CMa A 2:9 CMa A 2:Gliese 244 A 2:ADS 5423 A 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "A1V"
AppMag -1.43
Radius 1340000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.04210003104
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Procyon A 2:Elgomaisa A 2:ALF CMi A 2:10 CMi A 2:Gliese 280 A 2:ADS 6251 A 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "F5IV"
AppMag 0.37
Radius 1425408
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.06656561991
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Vega 2:ALF Lyr 2:3 Lyr 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "A0V"
AppMag -0.03
Radius 1961891.6
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.1
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Regulus 2:ALF Leo 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "B8IV"
AppMag -1.35
Radius 2436700
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.175
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Spica 2:ALF Vir 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "B1V"
AppMag -0.97
Radius 5200614
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.25
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Pollux 2:BET Gem 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "K0III"
AppMag 1.14
Radius 6126560
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.3656561991
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Alnitak 2:ZET Ori 2:50 Ori 2:126 G. Ori 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "O9.5Iab"
AppMag -6
Radius 13924000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.5356561991
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Arcturus 2:ALF Boo 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "K0III"
AppMag -0.05
Radius 17683480
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 0.7756561991
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Aldebaran 2:ALF Tau 2:87 Tau 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "K5III"
AppMag 0.75
Radius 30723306
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 1.16561991
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Rigel 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "B8I-a"
AppMag -36.25
Radius 50500000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 2.0454271673
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Pismis 24-1 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "O3"
AppMag -38.68
Radius 149000000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 3.91873386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"V382 Carinae 2:x Car 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "G5I"
AppMag 3.68
Radius 520000000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 10.91873386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Antares 2:Madeline Maddie Fenton 2:Madeline Fenton 2:Madeline 2:Maddie 2:Maddie Fenton 2:ALF Sco 2:21 Sco 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M1.5Iab"
AppMag -5.28
Radius 557000000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 23.91873386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Betelgeuse 2:Jack Fenton 2:Jack 2:ALF Ori 2:58 Ori 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M2Iab"
AppMag -5.85
Radius 661000000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 38.92773386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"Dash Baxter:Dash:DU Cru:SAO 252073"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M2Iab"
AppMag -5.52
Radius 821516000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 50.92773386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
Posted: 30.08.2019, 21:40
by Sirius_Alpha
Fabers_br wrote:Is this an issue? Or a silly mistake of mine?
The issue arises in the way Celestia calculates the "distance." For a planet, the distance is between the observer and the surface, whereas for a star, it is defined with respect to the centre of the star. If you "land" on the star's surface, you'll note you will have quite some "distance" still.
Posted: 31.08.2019, 01:04
by Joey P.
Mu Cephei, VV Cephei, and VY Canis Majoris (this uses textures only found in Celestia-ED):
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"MU Cep 2:Herschel's Garnet Star 2:Garnet Star 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M2Iab"
AppMag -5.52
Texture "sunred3.*"
Radius 988000000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 70.92773386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"VV Cep B 2:HD 208816 B 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "B0V"
AppMag -1
Radius 9050000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 80.92773386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"VV Cep A 2:HD 208816 A 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M"
AppMag -4.91
Radius 1322780000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 95.92773386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
"VY CMa 2"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Object Compare"
SpectralType "M4Ia"
Texture "sunred4.*"
AppMag -7
Radius 1466000000
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2452000.5 # 2001 Apr 1 00:00UT
Period 1.0000
SemiMajorAxis 115.92773386644
Eccentricity 0.0000000
Inclination 0.0000
AscendingNode 00.00000
ArgOfPericenter 000.00000
MeanAnomaly 000.00000000
}
}
Posted: 31.08.2019, 01:11
by Fafers_br
Sirius_Alpha wrote:The issue arises in the way Celestia calculates the "distance." For a planet, the distance is between the observer and the surface, whereas for a star, it is defined with respect to the centre of the star. If you "land" on the star's surface, you'll note you will have quite some "distance" still.
Oh! Thank you, Sirius! So many years using Celestia and I had never noticed that! Shame on me.
After being enlighted on this matter, I was able to correctly display the comparison the way it was meant to be.
Posted: 31.08.2019, 01:47
by Joey P.
Full size comparison including large stars and Danny Phantom objects:
Posted: 18.10.2019, 19:45
by Joey P.
Also, how do you tweak the glow color for the stars like what you have done with the red dwarf in the first picture? Thanks.
Posted: 18.10.2019, 21:41
by SevenSpheres
Joey P. wrote:Also, how do you tweak the glow color for the stars like what you have done with the red dwarf in the first picture? Thanks.
It's toggled by the "%" key.
Posted: 20.10.2019, 22:09
by Joey P.
Oh, thanks!