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Posted: 24.06.2018, 17:29
by Goofy
Hi Toutatis and Gironde. In order to obtain maximum from the launch vehicles you already added and/or will add to Celestia, if I can I suggest you to try to add Launch locations, as you have done with the Proton-M model. :clap:
I see that in "Orbiter addons" there are practically all the launch complexes used worlwide.

Just for an example, here is the Delta IV Launch Complex 37

Delta IV Launch Complex 37.jpg
Launch Complex 37


https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=1306

or Shuttle's LC39A+B Launch Pads

Space Shuttle Launch Pads 39A-B.jpg
Launch Pad 39A-39B


https://www.orbithangar.com/addonpics/LC39A_Shuttlefleet.jpg

OK, this is a huge (82.43 MB) model, but it looks like the real thing, doesn't it?
I think this could be a real challenge for anyone, anyway....
I know nothing about 3D modelling, so I don't know if this is possible or if it's a too complex and difficult task, but I hope it could be done by you... :help:
Thank you for all your work, appreciated.
Bye

Goofy :smile:

Posted: 24.06.2018, 17:31
by jujuapapa
Hi,

Great work for space probes. :clap:

Sorry, but I dont' see the interest to make rockets which never go into space... with celestia :sad:

Posted: 24.06.2018, 18:08
by gironde
Goofy,

All the files found on this kind of site are not necessarily usable. There is a lot of 3D format and not all 3D software is able to import them. On 3D Warehouse there are Sketchup, Colloda, KMZ Google files, ... on Orbiter they are .msh files. Apart from .dae (Colloda) which is importable into Blender, the others I do not know how to do.

:smile: :hi:

Posted: 24.06.2018, 18:39
by Goofy
:eek: :nervious: :ill: :insane: :cry: :( !!!

Goofy :smile:

Posted: 24.06.2018, 18:59
by gironde
And yes, it's a shame! But we must be passing, we will find.

Posted: 25.06.2018, 00:52
by toutatis
I know nothing about 3D modelling, so I don't know if this is possible or if it's a too complex and difficult task, but I hope it could be done by you... :help:
Thank you for all your work, appreciated.

Hi Goofy... Yes, it's possible... I can convert all .msh files from "Orbiter" to 3ds files which are supported in Celestia... but need to combine separated parts of models and make texturing them to create a ready model for Celestia... so just need a time and desire to work... See... I made Delta-4Heavy.. Titan-4B... Hayabusa-2 ... Formosat-5 from the separated files I taken from "Orbiter"... :wink:

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and I do not use Blender... Wings 3D and converters only... :smile:

Posted: 25.06.2018, 01:20
by toutatis
Hi, Art Blos... are you done with 1999 JU3 (Ryugu)???

Posted: 25.06.2018, 02:51
by Croc
Hi, Art Blos... are you done with 1999 JU3 (Ryugu)???

This asteroid is in Project "Celestia Origin", release dated April 30, 2018

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"162173 Ryugu:Ryugu:1999 JU3" "Sol"
{
   Class   "asteroid"
   Mesh   "asteroid.cmod"
   Texture   "darkasteroid.jpg"
   Radius   0.410
   Visible   false
   Clickable   false
   EllipticalOrbit
   {
      Epoch   2457000.5  # 2014 Dec 09
      Period   1.297357202153
      SemiMajorAxis   1.189508573396
      Eccentricity   0.190260012521
      Inclination   5.883876645567
      AscendingNode   251.611720614838
      ArgOfPericenter   211.425716033738
      MeanAnomaly   114.326399555117
   }
   UniformRotation
   {
      Period   7.627
   }
   LunarLambert   0.5
   Albedo   0.057
   InfoURL   "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/162173_Ryugu"
}


Image

Posted: 25.06.2018, 03:26
by toutatis
This asteroid is in Project "Celestia Origin", release dated April 30, 2018

Ow... :silenced: Then I have it...

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In my Celestia 5000 asteroids... but I still did not visited each of them... :biggrin:

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Now we need a sampled orbit for Ryugu... because of Hayabusa-2

Posted: 25.06.2018, 08:41
by toutatis
Asteroid 1999 JU3 (RYUGU)... Sampled orbit... Timeline from 2018-04-01 to 2020-12-01...

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am sorry... some correction in SSC-file for Ryugu... Texture, Radius, Albedo...

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"162173 Ryugu:Ryugu:1999 JU3" "Sol"
{
   Class "asteroid"
   Texture "darkasteroid.jpg"
    Mesh "asteroid.cmod"
    Radius 0.432
   Timeline
   [
      {
         Ending   2458209.5  # 2018 04 01
            EllipticalOrbit
           {
              Epoch   2458209.5  # 2018 Apr 01 00:00
              Period   1.29749038080771
              SemiMajorAxis   1.189589977058873
              Eccentricity   0.1902983658942321
              Inclination    5.883973618787449
              AscendingNode   251.5890953915898
              ArgOfPericenter   211.4362001714323
              MeanAnomaly   312.807295067819
           }
         UniformRotation
         {
            Period   7.627
         }
      }
      {
         Ending   2465424.5  # 2020 Dec 01 00:00
         SampledOrbit "Ryugu 2018-04-01 - 2020-12-01.xyzv"
         UniformRotation
         {
            Period   7.627
         }
      }
      {
            EllipticalOrbit
           {
              Epoch   2459184.5  # 2020 Dec 01 00:00
              Period   1.29832364076756
              SemiMajorAxis   1.190099232795694
              Eccentricity   0.1907033131811512
              Inclination    5.884975150328769
              AscendingNode   251.5371070778
              ArgOfPericenter   211.4864610073276
              MeanAnomaly   333.4533483933817
           }
         UniformRotation
         {
            Period   7.627
         }
      }
   ]
   LunarLambert   0.5
   Albedo   0.063
}

Posted: 25.06.2018, 16:53
by toutatis
New Swift Observatory model...

Posted: 25.06.2018, 20:02
by Goofy
Hi Toutatis.
Thank you for your positive reply about my request for Launch pads from Orbiter, and I believe it's not an easy task, but if I can help you with textures (sorry, I'm unable to help in modelling), I'm here.
Bye.
Goofy :smile:

Posted: 25.06.2018, 21:25
by Croc
New Swift Observatory model...

Image

I do not have confidence that the updated model corresponds to the original.
I did not see the original ... :think:

Posted: 25.06.2018, 23:28
by toutatis
I do not have confidence that the updated model corresponds to the original.
Well, there are many options...

Posted: 25.06.2018, 23:34
by toutatis
Thank you for your positive reply about my request for Launch pads from Orbiter, and I believe it's not an easy task, but if I can help you with textures (sorry, I'm unable to help in modelling), I'm here.
Thank you very much Goofy... :smile:

Posted: 26.06.2018, 07:42
by gironde
I'm working on:

Ares V
Atlas V 51
Atlas SLV-3 Agena-D
Atlas LV3B (Mercury-Atlas 6 Friendship 7)
Mercury-Redstone MR3

I set the orientation before uploading


:hi:

Posted: 26.06.2018, 12:44
by gironde
As I can not straighten rockets, I still submit the addons. Maybe someone will arrive at something acceptable.

I think there should be a landmark well positioned on the ground with a horizontal and a vertical surface.
The orientation function only works on one axis and I do not think we can put the function twice with a different axis.

:sad: :help:

Posted: 27.06.2018, 14:44
by gironde
Here is the Kaguya (Selene) satellite launched by Japan on 14-09-2007 with a H-IIA 2022 F13 rocket towards the Moon. For 2 years he flew over the Moon and crashed on 10-06-2009 at 18:25 at E80.4, S65.5.
The ssc file describes its main orbit around the moon. On 01-02-2009 the orbit has been lowered to 50km.

Kaguya was carrying 2 other satellites: OKINA relay satellite and VRAD satellite. They were dropped at the beginning of lunar insertion. Okina served as relay to the Kaguya transmission.

Posted: 27.06.2018, 16:45
by Croc
Here is the Kaguya (Selene)

OK!
:clap: :clap: :clap: :smile: :smile: :smile:

Posted: 27.06.2018, 17:29
by toutatis
Deep Space Climate Observatory

Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR; formerly known as Triana, unofficially known as GoreSat) is a NOAA space weather and Earth observation satellite. It was launched by SpaceX on a Falcon 9 launch vehicle on February 11, 2015, from Cape Canaveral

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Climate_Observatory