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Creating(Fictioning) a New Universe with Celestia!

Posted: 10.02.2005, 02:22
by ScorpioNTR
Greetings to all of Celestia staff and members / visitors!


>>>>Before I start, I want to THANKS A LOT to all of you, especially Celestia staff and all supporters. This is the most magnificent programme I have ever seen, and it's free! <<<<


My name is Erkan Bayol, from Turkey and I'm leader of C?©iron AKKS group; whose purpose is to create a new fictional universe.

We are working on a fictioning and conceptioning of an alternate reality, which has a style of "an alternate science" fiction as much as fantasy, and our real basis is a planet which we name as C?©iron. However, we have also a galaxy and sun system (different then Milky Way and our Solar).

C?©iron group has finished it's "space system" (with 7 planet and one sun, additionally one dying star with it's 2 planet) and it's astronomical values / datas. For example,

One of the Moon of C?©iron (Name is Palmyras or Palmakan)

Distance to C?©iron : 305385,43 km
C?©iron Tour (Around C?©iron) : 14 Days
Diameter : ~ 2000 km
Mass : 4* 1022 kg
Gradient to Axis : 0?°
Average Luminosity : -6 kadir
Average Surface Heat : ?±100?°C
Angular Size : 22.51 arcmin

We have similar datas for nearly every object of our solar system (Ianium Solar System) and we are ready to "create" it, at least in imaginary platform...

Here we come to our point. Before we were "discover" Celestia at yesterday, we have tried to make our space system with 3dmax. However, it is obvious that Celestia is a much better choice to create our fictional solar system(s).

Now my friends, I need your help. I have Celestia programme, I have mathematical and astronomical values of our fictional solar system and I have descriptions of our space objects. However, I do not have "image" forms of our objects (which can be used like "skins" of created spheres (to be a planet for ex.) in Celestia or other programmes).

So, what should we do next? Where to start first? I have many tutorials of Celestia and began to read them all (but not finished all yet). But I need a guide who show me the basic way step by step, suggesting more practical strategies and help me throughout the processes.

As I guess, I need image files (like jpg) to work as skins of planets and other objects for Celestia, and there is many ways to create them available. But how can i create an object in Celestia? With scripting or editing some files in Celestia dirs? If so, which files needs to be edit?

At this point, your suggests will welcome. If forum moderators allow, I want to report all processes and all developments of our "creating a fictional new universe adventure" to collect your ideas and helps.

Finally, If this topic is not allowed, please feel free to delete it and if so, I am sorry to disturbe you all.

(Note to Celestia staff, If you accept, we want to add a banner of Celestia web site (or forum if you prefer) to our web site. Well, we are not a Celestia site and we may not count to be a member of Celestia webring, but we can support you from our web site. If you accept, please sent a banner to my mail address : ceirontr@yahoo.com or contact with me by MSN messenger via same mail address. Supporting such a noble idea and project will be a great honour for us, just because we are same kind of project ;) )

(Note to people who might be curious about "C?©iron", please visit us at http://www.ceiron.org (or ceiron.com / ceiron.net) And please not that our site is in Turkish, however you can open topics and demand any additional info on our forums in English as well)

Posted: 10.02.2005, 02:43
by eburacum45
Looks like a fascinating project!

To make a new solar system in Celestia, you need to make an add-on and place it in a folder in the extras file; you can have a look at Seldens guide to Add-ons;
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/celesti ... intro.html

I would recommend taking a trip to the motherlode to download one or two fictional worlds- this might be the best way to understand the process.
http://celestiamotherlode.net/

Posted: 10.02.2005, 02:56
by ScorpioNTR
Thanks for your help eburacum45! And thanks for your reply!

I'm checking those links, it seems they have everything that I will need.

But still, if you friends have any other suggestions please feel free to write them. And I will report ASAP with my further processes (I hope :D)

Posted: 10.02.2005, 03:18
by ScorpioNTR
Well as i see, there is many add-ons and other usefull programs for supporting Celestia. For ex, many 3d modellers (blender and so on) available.

Now, maybe i should ask to help like this "Is anyone before tried to create a fictional universe with Celestia and which programmes used by him/her? Any additional info and suggestions will welcome" ...

Thanks.

Posted: 10.02.2005, 04:08
by eburacum45
The extensive Orion's arm universe is slowly being converted to Celestia,
see here
http://celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/fic_orionsarm.php
(I have been adding spaceships and habitats recently, which will be added to the motherlode eventually if Harald et cie are willing)

and the Arcbuilder's universe is another extensive fictional construct;
http://celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/f ... ilder.php;
see also the more familiar Star Trek, Babylon 5, Star Wars and Alien universes,

Best of all is the Billow Maidens add-on from here-
http://celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/f ... l.php#1800
and there are other entertaining fictional worlds on that page.

Posted: 10.02.2005, 05:09
by ScorpioNTR
After i see another fictional projects (all of them wonderfull :) ) I decided to ask their creators for help. Maybe they can help us to create our own design? I hope so, because they are much more capable and skillfull then us for such a task.

Even if they not, we will try to make this project to be real!