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i have read here(its in spanish, if someone can translate it to english, do it and post it) http://www.100cia.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=644&highlight=metagalaxia that the earth was not formed in our solar system, not even in our "metagalaxy"(what is metagalxy). it says that the earth's nucleus was formed in the Andromeda metagalaxy!!! and it traveled trough the space between andromeda and the milky way, rotating at 112 times in per second.
and then it reached the solar system and stayed here.
some can explain what i have just read????

I used babelfish.altavista.com to get a crude translation of the page. It's rather amusing.

It's not science. It's all made up. Imaginary.

As best I can tell, for many people the study of real science is too hard, so they make up their own explanations for things, the more fanciful, the better. Then they try to convince others that they're the truth. Sometimes it's based on misunderstandings of distorted "popular" descriptions of real scientific discoveries.

We all do this to a certain extent, of course, but for some people it's a way of life. They like to make references to obscure papers by sometimes imaginary authors or to imaginary papers by well known authors. Filling their articles with misused scientific terms helps to make them sound more plausible, too.

Also, apparently there was a period of time when the Soviet government insisted that all scientific theories must reflect the communist doctrine. Some of the papers published during that time were, shall we say, just a little far fetched.

This particular posting seems to claim to be a description of a theory proposed by someone named Kolmogorov. The only well known scientist that I've been able to locate with that name is the mathematician Andrei Nikolaevich Kolmogorov, who I doubt would have believed any such nonsense.

Well the Earth may not have formed in the Andromeda galaxy but it will be inside it in a couple hundred million years. Actualy the MilkyWay galaxy and the Andromeda galaxy are going to colide and most likely goin to form into one of those super galaxies. Our solar system may not survive this. It depends on were the sun is positioned when the collision starts. If we are in the front lines kiss it good by. If we are lucky and are on the back side we may ride it out. But the Earth at this time would be to hot for us to live on anyway. As the burns its hydrogen fuel it keeps getting hotter. By the time this happens the habital zone in our solar system wil have moved out towards Mars and the asteroid belt. Hopefully we have gotten our act together and found a new place to live.
Just something to chew on.

Don.

here is a video i found abou the colition.
http://barsys.no-ip.info:8100/andro-milky.mov
what i have heard and lread is that nothing will happen to our star, because the posibility of a colition between two stars(one from each galaxy) is very very low(almos impossible). but what i also heard is that if someone wil be able to see this long event, he will see many stars beeing born every time, because of the colition between gases and dust.

Not that anything will happen to the sun but if gravitational edies form an another star were to come to close the solar system would be broken up. The planets flung all over the new galaxy. This has been modeled in a documentary I saw not to long ago.

Don.

i have a simulator program(not like celestia) that has one simulatio nexample of a star visiting our solar system, and yo ucan see that earth's orbit is very affected: its much more close to the sun, and after some times, the earth crashes into teh sun.
the program is OrbitX i think(the X is for explorer)

It's a lot of nonsense teories in pseudoscientific language aimed to impress un-cultured people, without proof of what he says. Please forget it, it's a loss of time.

A little (amateur) translation sample so you can judge:

"Proto-earth was moving extremely slowly, violently pushed by the direct component of the solar wind away from the Sun, and weakly toward the sun by the inverse component of solar wind. In the equilibrium (balance?) pressiohelio-dynamic trayectorial continuum aperiodical point (oh man!!), although in times fragmentively temporal .... Our planet started absorbing spare nebulosic material of Solar System formation. As the terrestrial nucleus was spinning at 111.98 times/sec , it was relatively simple adquisition of this vacuumist nebulosic material type. Influenced by the atomic spin of the outer planets's nucleii, material quickly joined to the nucleus, crystalizing almost instantly in four types of mineral rocks: spinelas, granates, peridoto and high pressure gravitita (today inexistent), also several metals that later would crystalize by ultra-rotation. Big crystal blocks almost formed instantly, due to the convergent crystalization effect by primordial antidensity and influenced by the nucleizing of the first luminic protoneutrons ... etc, etc, etc for a long time.

If you want, I would take time to try to translate all of it, so you could give it whenever a politician visites your labs, and make a good joke of him...