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Problem: cant see sol hi-res textures
Posted: 29.10.2007, 20:19
by xTMODx
hi @ll
i use hi-res textures for Sol, Creator: Runar Thorvaldsen and the update for celestia 1.5 (per july 4. 2007)
http://www.celestialmatters.org/?page_id=48#oursun of this textures and i cant see the hi-res textures, only mid and low-res... i use celestia 1.5.0 pre3 for windows and also the newest graphic driver. can someone help please?? sry for my english
greetz xTMODx
Re: Problem: cant see sol hi-res textures
Posted: 30.10.2007, 00:54
by rthorvald
xTMODx wrote:i use hi-res textures for Sol, Creator: Runar Thorvaldsen and the update for celestia 1.5 (per july 4. 2007)
http://www.celestialmatters.org/?page_id=48#oursun of this textures and i cant see the hi-res textures, only mid and low-res... i use celestia 1.5.0 pre3 for windows and also the newest graphic driver. can someone help please?
I think we need more info on your computer config.
How much ram, vram, etc..
Also, are you sure you installed the update correctly? The update is an ssc file that must
overwrite the old one that came with the Add-On.
- rthorvald
Re: Problem: cant see sol hi-res textures
Posted: 30.10.2007, 05:40
by xTMODx
rthorvald wrote:I think we need more info on your computer config.
How much ram, vram, etc..
- rthorvald
yea sure here my config:
CPU Typ AMD Athlon 64 3800+
2048 MB Ram 800MHz 4.4.4.12
NVIDIA 8800 GTX 768 MB Ram
ForceWare 163.69
Vista Ultimate with latest updates
rthorvald wrote:Also, are you sure you installed the update correctly? The update is an ssc file that must overwrite the old one that came with the Add-On.
yea i did it correctly i overwrote this one file and put the other *.stc file in same dir where i overwrote the *.ssc file.
greetz xTMODx
Posted: 30.10.2007, 20:34
by xTMODx
i still have the problem can anyone help me... please
greetz xTMODx
Posted: 30.10.2007, 21:20
by rthorvald
xTMODx wrote:i still have the problem can anyone help me... please
Well, your computer setup is certainly well within the requirements, so this is somewhat mysterious.
Can you take a screenshot of your Our_Sun folder and post the contents of the SSC and STC here?
Also, perhaps, a screenshot of what you actually see in Celestia under the various resolutions?
A lot of info, but it will help me understand what is going on.
- rthorvald
Posted: 01.11.2007, 16:13
by xTMODx
Can you take a screenshot of your Our_Sun folder and post the contents of the SSC and STC here?
here the screenshot of the folder...
...and here the content of the SSC and STC.
Code: Select all
Barycenter "Solar System Barycenter:SSB"
{
RA 0
Dec 0
Distance 0
}
0 "Sol:Sun"
{
OrbitBarycenter "Solar System Barycenter"
CustomOrbit "vsop87-sun"
SpectralType "G2V"
AbsMag 4.83
RotationPeriod 609.12 # 25.38 days
Obliquity 7.25 # correct orientation relative to ecliptic
EquatorAscendingNode 75.77 #
RotationOffset 23.00 # standard meridian
Texture "th_sun.*"
}Code: Select all
"Sun" "Sol"
{
Mesh "th_placeholder.3ds"
Emissive true
Radius 709100 #celestia Sol : 695705.371
Oblateness 0.009
EllipticalOrbit {
Period 1e10
SemiMajorAxis 1e-10
Eccentricity 0.00
Inclination 0.00
}
Atmosphere {
Height 1925410
Lower [ 0.9 0.70 0 ]
Upper [ 0.62 0.5 0 ]
Sky [ 0.9 0.65 0 ]
CloudHeight 600
CloudSpeed 1015
CloudMap "th_suncover.*"
}
RotationPeriod 609.6 # 601.25h @0 deg or 609.6h @16 deg lat
Obliquity 7.25
EquatorAscendingNode 75.62
InfoURL "http://www.celestialmatters.org"
}
Location "Sunspot" "Sol/Sun"
{
LongLat [ 3.1 -1.1 500 ]
Importance 50000
Type "XX"
Size 1000
}
# -- FLARES ------------------------------------
"" "Sol"
{
Mesh "th_placeholder.3ds"
Radius 250000
Emissive true
Oblateness 0.5
EllipticalOrbit
{
Period 9E10
SemiMajorAxis 0.00383
Inclination 90
MeanAnomaly 90
}
Atmosphere {
Height 0
CloudHeight 10
CloudSpeed 100
CloudMap "th_sunflare1.png"
}
RotationPeriod 0.009
Obliquity 45
}
"" "Sol"
{
Mesh "th_placeholder.3ds"
Radius 280000
Emissive true
Oblateness 0.4
EllipticalOrbit
{
Period 9E10
SemiMajorAxis 0.003599
Inclination 180
MeanAnomaly 90
}
Atmosphere {
Height 0
CloudHeight 100
CloudSpeed 100
CloudMap "th_sunflare2.png"
}
RotationPeriod 0.0092
Obliquity 25
}
"" "Sol"
{
Mesh "th_placeholder.3ds"
Radius 210000
Emissive true
Oblateness 0.4
EllipticalOrbit
{
Period 9E10
SemiMajorAxis 0.0041
Inclination 0
AscendingNode 90
MeanAnomaly 45
}
Atmosphere {
Height 0
CloudHeight 100
CloudSpeed 0
CloudMap "th_sunflare3.png"
}
RotationPeriod 0.0075
Obliquity 225
}
"" "Sol"
{
Mesh "th_placeholder.3ds"
Radius 180000
Emissive true
Oblateness 0.7
EllipticalOrbit
{
Period 9E10
SemiMajorAxis 0.0045
Inclination 25
}
Atmosphere {
Height 0
CloudHeight 70
CloudSpeed 100
CloudMap "th_sunflare4.png"
}
RotationPeriod -0.0095
Obliquity 90
}
"" "Sol"
{
Mesh "th_placeholder.3ds"
Radius 250000
Emissive true
Oblateness 0.2
EllipticalOrbit
{
Period 9E10
SemiMajorAxis 0.0044
Inclination 90
MeanAnomaly 90
}
Atmosphere {
Height 0
CloudHeight 100
CloudSpeed 0
CloudMap "th_sunflare5.png"
}
RotationPeriod 0.007
Obliquity 45
}
Also, perhaps, a screenshot of what you actually see in Celestia under the various resolutions?
here some screenshots from the sun...
my resolution is always 1024x768
i hope u can help me^^
greetz xTMODx
Posted: 01.11.2007, 19:09
by rthorvald
Ok,
This shows me that everything is correct. It is the right files, in the right places!
One stupid question:
Are the HiRes folder present in the Textures folder?
- rthorvald
Posted: 01.11.2007, 20:06
by xTMODx
One stupid question:
Are the HiRes folder present in the Textures folder?
yea i have those hi-res folder, here...
Posted: 01.11.2007, 20:09
by xTMODx
oh and btw. i tried it with version 1.4.1, 1.5.0 pre3 and 1.5.0 pre4 (1.5.0 pre3 & 4 with Our_Sun v1.0 + 1.2)
Posted: 01.11.2007, 22:20
by BobHegwood
Welcome to Vista...
Your Hires folder shows that it contains no textures according to the
open folder. Try clicking on the sub-folders and see if you get a folder
display like you do with lores and medres. Just a thought.
Also, is Celestia running in XP-compatible mode, or did you just install
it as a Vista program? It looks like Vista from here, but you never know.
If you installed and ran it as XP-compatible, you may have the option
to view compatible files on your toolbar when you look at the folders
a little more closely.
Just FYI... Bob
Posted: 02.11.2007, 12:31
by xTMODx
Your Hires folder shows that it contains no textures according to the
open folder. Try clicking on the sub-folders and see if you get a folder
display like you do with lores and medres. Just a thought.
this hi-res folder on the screenshot i`ve made, is in the main dir there is no texture but in the texture folder from "th_sun" there are hi-res textures...
Also, is Celestia running in XP-compatible mode, or did you just install
it as a Vista program? It looks like Vista from here, but you never know.
If you installed and ran it as XP-compatible, you may have the option
to view compatible files on your toolbar when you look at the folders
a little more closely.
i installed it as Vista programm... but i itried it with XP-compatible with service pack 2 but still the same problem
greetz xTMODx
Posted: 02.11.2007, 14:23
by selden
It looks like you have been renaming and moving things around when compared to your original screengrab. That makes it hard to understand what's happening.
However, it looks like you've put the hires virtual textures in the wrong directory. They should be in Celestia\extras\addons\th_sun\textures\hires\
I think it would be best if you started over with an empty \extras\addons\ folder: drag all of the files out of it and into some other "holding" directory, which is not in Celestia\extras\
Later you can move back any other Addons you have. If you have none, you could just delete everything that's in \addons\.
Then install (unzip) the th_sun Addon into Celestia\extras\addons\
That should create the directory Celestia\extras\addons\th_sun\ and put all of its files in the correct places inside the \th_sun\ directory.
Posted: 02.11.2007, 15:06
by BobHegwood
xTMODx wrote: i installed it as Vista programm... but i itried it with XP-compatible with service pack 2 but still the same problem
greetz xTMODx
Gotcha... If I were you, I'd listen to Selden in this case. Virtual Textures
require their own set of rules, and if there are ANY deviations, they will
not work correctly.
At any rate, I knew that you had the VT files in your hires folder, but I
was just trying to get you to look at the sub-folders for more information.
No problem, and I hope you have better luck than I have on your
machine.
I think I'm getting it though...
EDIT: By the way, you don't have any of these textures in your medres
folder, do you? Celestia will look there first, so I just thought I'd ask.
Again, just FYI...
Thanks, Bob
Posted: 02.11.2007, 16:27
by xTMODx
It looks like you have been renaming and moving things around when compared to your original screengrab. That makes it hard to understand what's happening.
However, it looks like you've put the hires virtual textures in the wrong directory. They should be in Celestia\extras\addons\th_sun\textures\hires\
I think it would be best if you started over with an empty \extras\addons\ folder: drag all of the files out of it and into some other "holding" directory, which is not in Celestia\extras\
Later you can move back any other Addons you have. If you have none, you could just delete everything that's in \addons\.
Then install (unzip) the th_sun Addon into Celestia\extras\addons\
That should create the directory Celestia\extras\addons\th_sun\ and put all of its files in the correct places inside the \th_sun\ directory.
yea true in the first screenshot i had it correctly but because i reinstalled celestia a few times i forget to copy "th_sun" folder to the addons folder but it change nothing and i didnt move any files or renaming just installed celestia and put the addon "th_sun" in the Celestia\extras\addons\ its my first addon for celestia... (i dont know what i can try...)
greetz xTMODx
Posted: 02.11.2007, 17:04
by selden
I know what you did sounds like it should be the same, but please try reinstalling the addon from scratch:
+ delete your addons directory and all of its contents.
(drag the folder icon to the wastebasket)
+ create a new addons directory
+ double click on the icon for th_sun.zip
+ click on the "extract all files" button
+ restore to the new Celestia\extras\addons folder
[edit]
The zip file is, of course, actually rthorvalds_sun.zip
when you do the "extract all", it will create a directory tree that has more levels than is absolutely necessary, but it'll work fine, so don't mess with it.
[/edit]
Posted: 02.11.2007, 18:00
by xTMODx
I know what you did sounds like it should be the same, but please try reinstalling the addon from scratch:
+ delete your addons directory and all of its contents.
(drag the folder icon to the wastebasket)
+ create a new addons directory
+ double click on the icon for th_sun.zip
+ click on the "extract all files" button
+ restore to the new Celestia\extras\addons folder
[edit]
The zip file is, of course, actually rthorvalds_sun.zip
when you do the "extract all", it will create a directory tree that has more levels than is absolutely necessary, but it'll work fine, so don't mess with it.
[/edit]
yea i did it about 20x times but nothing changes my problem is not that i cant see the textures... i can see the low-res textures and the mid-res textures... i cant only see the hi-res textures and i didnt change the *.zip content (the directory tree)...
thx for helping u guys i hope we can solve the problem..
greetz xTMODx
Posted: 02.11.2007, 18:06
by selden
Once it is installed correctly, here's what you should see after typing the appropriate number of "r" and "R" commands after starting from this Cel:// URL:
Sunspot_with_flare
(these thumbnails link to much larger images)
Scrolling in closer won't gain much more in resolution.
Posted: 02.11.2007, 18:18
by xTMODx
ok problem solved
i didnt know that i can switch between low/mid and hi-resolution with the shortcut "r" or "R"
thanks you a lot guys!!! nice support
greetz xTMODx
