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Post #181by buggs_moran » 11.12.2007, 04:56

Oh and I'd be happy to put the spreadsheet up, but it's a bit messy. I used it to create the plume data and then used a MS Word mail merge (yes pathetic) to build the file.
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Post #182by BobHegwood » 11.12.2007, 05:43

Well again, I certainly appreciate the effort Buggs...

These add-ons make for a very interesting (and beautiful) display
of this violent little moon. :wink:

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Post #183by Reiko » 12.12.2007, 01:06

Maps of the Star Trek universe.

Blue = Federation
Red = Klingons
Green = Romulans
Pink = Cardassians
White = Romulan Neutral Zone
Yellow = Home Worlds of Each Empire


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A beautiful image running at 75 fps

Post #184by danielj » 13.12.2007, 17:59


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Re: A beautiful image running at 75 fps

Post #185by BobHegwood » 13.12.2007, 20:40



Sorry Daniel, but I very much prefer the add-ons I got in this thread
from Mr. Buggs. Absolutely spectacular, beautiful and vastly superior
to what is shown in your image.

Remember that this simply represents my OWN personal tastes, so
please don't anyone take this comment the wrong way. :wink:

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the add-on you are using.
Looks good...

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Post #186by danielj » 13.12.2007, 20:51

Are you talking about the NEW Io??s volcanoes addon with point sprites?I am aware of it,however it is not yet in Motherlode or avaliable to the final user in any place...

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Post #187by BobHegwood » 13.12.2007, 21:02

danielj wrote:Are you talking about the NEW Io??s volcanoes addon with point sprites?I am aware of it,however it is not yet in Motherlode or avaliable to the final user in any place...


No, no...

Follow this thread back a page or two. Buggs posted a link to the
necessary add-on PLUS he added some more volcanoes simply
because I asked him to.

Whadda Guy :lol:

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Re: A beautiful image running at 75 fps

Post #188by chris » 13.12.2007, 21:08

BobHegwood wrote:

Sorry Daniel, but I very much prefer the add-ons I got in this thread
from Mr. Buggs. Absolutely spectacular, beautiful and vastly superior
to what is shown in your image.

Remember that this simply represents my OWN personal tastes, so
please don't anyone take this comment the wrong way. :wink:
[/quote]

I happen to disagree, but then I made the point sprite volcano add-on.

--Chris

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Re: A beautiful image running at 75 fps

Post #189by BobHegwood » 13.12.2007, 21:14

chris wrote:I happen to disagree, but then I made the point sprite volcano add-on.

--Chris


Well at the risk of pissing off my favorite person in the world...

PHOOEY!

Buggs' add-on is vastly superior and it looks a LOT more like the
real thing.

Sorry, but them's how I see the volcanoes. :wink:

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Post #190by buggs_moran » 13.12.2007, 21:31

Believe me, the second I can use point sprites (in a fast animation), volumetric fills or repetitious parabolic path motion (a GOTO command ?). I will retool these volcanoes in a heartbeat.

I just wanted that spewing lava on a parabolic (circular for now) path. I am considering a retooling of them anyway to get a more "filled in" feeling rather than that dome shape. I just need some time (isn't that always the truth).

I uploaded to the Motherlode either yesterday or Tuesday...

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Post #191by ElChristou » 13.12.2007, 21:34

In the absolute, Chris point sprites ARE the solution for this kind of stuff (real 3D), now the good point of Buggs' addon is that it works on all configs (no need of OGL2).
Now a nice one would be a mix of both, because Buggs one do have some "structure", some "nerve" while Chris' one is more "fluffy"... a balance of both methods whould be IMHO very nice...

BTW Buggs, no way to add a row of rotating tubes (textured the same way) at the intersection of the plume and the ground to simulate some messy dust and dissimulate a bit the crude intersection?
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Post #192by BobHegwood » 13.12.2007, 21:41

buggs_moran wrote:I uploaded to the Motherlode either yesterday or Tuesday...

All of my addons will be available here (click on Addons)
http://www.clanmoran.net/celestia/site


Thanks for the upload Buggs. I'll see if I can light a fire under my
good friend, Ulrich, to see if we can get these posted ASAP.

I like the look of your site too. Do you care who logs in as a user?
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Post #193by buggs_moran » 13.12.2007, 22:23

Not at all Bob (and anyone that's interested). Right now it's unrestricted and just requires an email address. If it gets too unruly I may have to tighten up security like it is here...

Over time I will be adding some more interactivity to the site and spiffying it up a bit. It's rather bland and I want to update it more often with the work I actually do and have done. Eventually I foresee emails to users when there are new posts, better downloading, ability to work collaboratively (uploads and downloads) and so on. I need to speak with Andrea so we can get our Ptolemy work posted.
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Post #194by ANDREA » 14.12.2007, 01:08

buggs_moran wrote: I need to speak with Andrea so we can get our Ptolemy work posted.

I am here, Buggs, ready to start again when you'll have some time to dedicate to this project.
So... bye soon. :wink:

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Post #195by danielj » 14.12.2007, 11:14

The problem with Buggs Moran and Chris addon is that only ONE volcano (Tvashtar)had been rendered.This happened MAYBE because point sprites and volumetric fills are too system demanding and all volcanoes at the same time would cause slowdown in most systems,even in my not so modest computer.So BOTH models can be used,in alternated ways...

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Post #196by BobHegwood » 14.12.2007, 13:58

danielj wrote:The problem with Buggs Moran and Chris addon is that only ONE volcano (Tvashtar)had been rendered.This happened MAYBE because point sprites and volumetric fills are too system demanding and all volcanoes at the same time would cause slowdown in most systems,even in my not so modest computer.So BOTH models can be used,in alternated ways...


Look AGAIN my friend...

Four rendered on my machine in just the right places... :wink:

Would you like a link so you don't have to go back one page and
find them?

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Post #197by fsgregs » 15.12.2007, 22:21

Point Sprites may be very very useful, but when it comes to Io's volcanoes ... well ....

Here is a screenshot of Chris's Point Sprites, using 1.5.0pre4. I cannot believe that if we visited Io now, these eruptions would be so bright!

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Is there a way to tone down their brightness at least 60% or more?

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Post #198by BobHegwood » 16.12.2007, 00:41

Yeah,

The specularity - for lack of a better phrase - is also a problem with
Bugg's' add-on. You can see bright spots on the moon from large
distances away. Methinks that this is a Celestia bug though. <shrug>
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Post #199by cartrite » 22.12.2007, 15:23

I tried out Chris's patch for cloudshadows
http://www.celestiaproject.net/forum/viewtopic ... 7383#97383
and here are some pics without and with shadows activated.
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I'm using an 8k cloudmap I created and a 64kbmng I did of February.
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Post #200by bh » 22.12.2007, 16:50

Stunning shots Cartrite... might have asked this before but what sort of frame rate do you get with these textool textures?
regards...bh.


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